Bharat Mata, aka Mother India, is home to over 1.2 billion people, with such diversity that is impossible to cover them all. It has a range of languages with every community having their own, they’re not even dialects..they have different meanings to words yet they are all united by the tongue of Hindi. It’s thought that the country has 347 spoken languages. Colours splash on the streets daily, devotees parade down celebrating festivals and there is never a moment where you would be sitting idly. Yet go outside and you can find landscapes ranging from jungles to deserts to mountain regions. It has culture, it has history and it has stupendous beauty.
India was a thriving country and had it not been for the British invasion, I think it would have been one of the most powerful countries already. However, what is rather odd about India are the mysteries surrounding it. What I am to do in this thread is bring just some of them to your eyes, which you’ve probably already met and try to show you that India is just not a country where poverty is seen but it’s rich domain where jewels can be found in the oddest of places.

Welcome to my thread on India. I hope to cover topics ranging from its religion to conspiracies within it. If there’s any questions, free feel to ask. My thread is just one view, the fact is, there isn’t one “right” view when we come to talking about the scriptures so there are many variations.

  • A Brief Overview of Sacred Scriptures – Shruti and Smriti
  • An Aryan Conspiracy?
  • Ancient Tech: Nuclear Wars
  • Ancient Tech: Vimanas
  • Ancient Tech: Other
  • Secret Brotherhoods

I’d quickly like to direct people onto this thread: Ancient Series: Indians by Serbsta (goes into much more detail than I do...a MUST read
A Brief Overview of Sacred Scriptures
Before we get onto the real cover-up, I’d like to give a brief overview to just some of the amazing literature India’s history holds. Many think Hinduism is one of the oldest living religions to still exist. There are elements from it which were part of the religion from the Indus Civilisation which abruptly vanished. Moreover, we have Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism that are closely related to it. Its scriptures are the basis of India and Nepal’s main religion; Hinduism. To me, Hinduism is rather strange compared to other religions. There is no single founder, there is no single set of teachings and there is no single set of teachings which people HAVE to adhere to. For example, you cannot find ‘The Ten Commandments’ like in Christianity...our religion is just based on stories, our interpretation of them and that’s one of the reasons what makes Hinduism so unique. Key figures teach different philosophies and many consider the sacred scriptures to be a ‘way of life’ or a ‘family of religions’ rather than a single religion.

Shruti Literature
The Vedas are part of the Shruti literature which contain revelations, which can be translated to ‘which is heard.’ Many consider the Vedas to be divine in origin and not made by humans. It’s thought that they were composed in the early stages of civilisation, passed down in generations and written around 1500BC. They are thought to be nitya (eternal) and apauruseya (our of this world.) Many Hindus believe in something similar to animism for example, the words written in the Vedas are Brahma Dev himself.
The word ‘Veda’ means wisdom, knowledge. They are the oldest and most authoritative scriptures of Hinduism. Hindus believe that they weren’t composed by anyone but “revealed” to Rishis. The Vedas consist of:
1) Rigveda (written before the Aryans settled in India)
2) Yajurveda
3) Samaveda
4) Atharvaveda
Each of these are then made up of 4 divisions which are separated into:
-Samhita – hymns
-Brahmana – rituals and moral principles
-Aryanyaka – meditations
-Upanishads – records of transcendental experiences
They all address not only the divine gods and goddesses but spiritual entities that exist in our awareness and awake as we progress through the various stages of advancement for Self Realisation. Looking deeper, one can see the descent of specific energies/forces descending into our consciousness from higher worlds.
The truths and principles from the Upanishads were all brought together in the form of sutras. These are known as the ‘Brahma Sutras’ and form the basis of the philosophy system, also known as Vedanta –Darshana. To read more about the Vedantas:
The 4 parts of the Vedas have significance to the four ashramas of life, the 4 stages of life.
1)Brahmacharya – this is the phase of the student.
2)Grihasthashrama – this is phase of the householder. They adult must live a righteous life and work for the preservation of family and society by carrying our righteous deeds.
3)Vanaprastha – At this stage the person leaves his house and properties to the children and go and lead a spiritual life.
4)Sanyasashrama – The final stage where the person renounces all worldly life and spends it in contemplation of God and self.
To read the Vedas, here’s a good place:
You can actually read some verses from the Vedas...just click on the names.
Smriti Literature
Compared to the revelations as written above, the Smriti literature is a product of human intellect where the information is based upon the Vedas and their interpretations of it. Yes, there are law books such as the ‘Dharma Shastras’ which are of 4. Manusmriti is the most popular which is like a guidebook to human conduct, social and religious behaviour. In many of the Dharma Shastras there are rules on groups of individuals such as castes.
Yes, there have been a lot of criticism to it; the caste system, the status of women which is definitely narrow minded, please remember that this doesn’t have the same status as the Vedas and is written by humans....this all came as a by-product of them and their political and social circumstances. These books do not have to be necessarily accepted as final authority on any issue...unlike the Vedas they are not eternal or fallible. There is no caste system in the Vedas nor discrimination between man and women.
Itihasa
Itihasa means history. The Mahbharata and Ramayana are included in this category, which have some very interesting occurrences which I hope to talk about later on in the thread. Another is the well known Bhagavad Gita.
Mahabharata is the story of Pandavas and Kauravas and greed for the political power which led to massive war and destruction of both families, leaving the Pandavas winning only probably because Krishna Bagwaan gave his support to them. It is indeed difficult to read this without coming to terms with the destructive nature of mankind and the dangers of us. The BG describes the message of Krishna Bagwaan to Arjuna on the battlefield in the Mahabharata. However, it’s not just to him but to entire humanity describing words of wisdom to help not only with external battles but battles internally as well. There’s a lot of spiritual truth within it. The Ramayana is the story of Rama and his battle against the demons by Ravana. He abducts Sita and it tells the tale of the rescue her and a quite unique twist at the end.
Puranas
These describe the religious events that happened in the past. They deal with the numerous incarnations of God and the deeds done by them. While the above epics deal with what happened on earth in the past, the Puranas just don’t deal with Gods on earth but on their different planes. There is their own Vedic conception of time which we separate out into 4 stages and we are thought to be in the fourth stage. What is written below is found in the Puranas which is considered to be the fifth Veda.
1) Satya-Yuga: 1,728,000 human years
2) Treta-Yuga: 1,296,000 human years
3) Dvapara-Yuga: 864,000 human years
4) Kali-Yuga: 432,000 human years
The Puranas describe the above four stages. The first one is thought to be the “Golden Age.” There is no such thing as hate nor envy, no such thing as fear....just wisdom and virtue dominate this era. People in this age live for around 100,000 years. The second stage is where the good qualities reduce by a third (though others may say a quarter.) Sacrifices are introduced with people desiring goods, wanting to be rewarded for work. They live now for a maximum for 10,000 years. In the third stage, its good qualities are only a half of what it was in the Treta-Yuga. The Vedas are divided into 4 parts and a minority study them. Sensual desires, diseases and injustice begin to spread and people here live to a maximum of 1000 years. Lastly, we come to the Iron Age, where men are short lived and have less intelligence. The maximum duration is 100 years of human life. Humans are now misled, disturbed and morals and principles are literally not to be seen.
What’s interesting is that as the number of good qualities decrease, the lifespan of the humans decrease. And well, we do rarely live to the age of 100 which have been predicted by scriptures that are written thousands and thousands of years ago.
History is most often written with an agenda. Early indologists wished to control and convert the followers of Vedic cultures, therefore spreading the word that the Vedas were simply mythology. Let’s take Max Muller for example. He initially wrote that the ‘Vedas were worse than savage’ and that India must be conquered again by education. He went on to say that the religion there is doomed although later on glorified the Vedas.
It was these Indologists that devised the Aryan Invasion Theory who many believe intentionally misinterpreted the Sanskrit language to make the Vedas look primitive. It is no secret that the British who invaded India, tried to make India feel ashamed of their own culture, thus indicating that perhaps these men were motivated by a racial bias. Nowadays, the Aryan Invasion Theory is under scrutiny. Did it actually occur? Nope. No evidence that it actually did occur. The Vedic culture is thought to have derived from foreign soil according to the Aryan invasion yet there are NO FINDINGS that can be associated with Aryan people coming to India.

Nowhere in the Vedas is there a single mention of an Aryan homeland outside of India, yet the Saraswati River where two thirds of the 2,500 Indus sites were found, was. Now the Aryans are thought to have arrived AFTER the Saraswati River dried up. Why would a desolated river be mentioned over 50 times in the Rig Veda if there was no use for the river? Why would the Aryans even write about it? The way the Saraswati River is described in the Vedas indicate that it was written pre-Aryan.

There is no genetic, cultural, archaeological substantial evidence proving that there was an invasion. It is all just theory and yet it’s still being taught as a fact today in textbooks, in schools.

Max Muller is the main guy who actually proposed the Aryan Invasion. Now...anyone seeing what I’m seeing? Is anyone already seeing the manipulation I’m seeing? This guy believed in the Biblical chronology. He placed the world at 400BC and the flood approximately 2500BC and therefore randomly suggested that the Aryans came to India around 1500BC. However he later goes on to contradict himself. He admitted the purely speculative nature of the Vedic chronology yet it appears all of mankind have seemed to turn a blind eye to that.

Now let us examine the facts about the so-called evidences in support of AIT:
1. Real Meaning of the Word 'ARYA' In 1853, Max Muller introduced the word 'Arya' into the English and European usage as applying to a racial and linguistic group when propounding the Aryan Racial theory. However, in 1888, he himself refuted his own theory and wrote:

I have declared again and again that if I say Aryas, I mean neither blood nor bones, nor hair, nor skull; I mean simply those who speak an Aryan language...to me an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar. (Max Muller, Biographies of Words and the Home of the Aryas, 1888, pg 120) In Vedic Literature, the word Arya is nowhere defined in connection with either race or language. Instead it refers to: gentleman, good-natured, righteous person, noble-man, and is often used like 'Sir' or 'Shree' before the name of a person like Aryaputra, Aryakanya, etc.

Actually there is evidence that the scriptures are indigenous to the Indians that occupied the country. For example the linguistic characteristic between the Indus civilisation and Vedic is so similar. Om symbols can be found, the swastika and many more. Harappan seals have been deciphered consistently Vedic. Pottery found has written ‘the sacred land which is bounded by the Saraswati River.’ Again, that river is mentioned in the Vedas. Even the practices of some gods from the Indus civilisation were found in the Vedas as well.
Even the word ‘Aryan’ which means ‘master race’ seems rather big headed. It shows me an image of people who believe that they are right. Why would the Aryans who invaded write in a different language that is not their own? And in Sanskrit...a very difficult language? They wouldn’t. A proud race like them would have not bothered trying to learn the new culture or language and tried to rein everything with their own. We should be seeing a different culture that the Aryans would have brought with them.
So all in all, here are some major flaws which I mentioned above clearly shown:

  • There is no mention of a region outside of India. If indeed the Aryans had taken over, they would have at least spoken about their “mighty victory” of capturing the land of India. If Hindu-Aryans were outsiders, why are all the holy places found in India?
  • Why talk about the Saraswatiriver more than 50 times when it dried up by the time of the so called invasion? It had no use. Why praise it?
  • If the Aryans invaded the towns of the Harappa valley and killed the citizens...why did they not take over the towns and live there themselves?
  • There is no genetic, cultural, archaeological substantial evidence proving that there was an invasion. It is all just theory and yet it’s still being taught as a fact today in textbooks, in schools.
  • Max Muller created the Aryan Invasion Theory and later on admitted its speculative nature.

More info on anomalies within Aryan Invasion Theory (scroll down)
Interesting site to read on the Aryan Invasion Theory
Here’s a couple of videos on each blog to read... (might have to scroll down a bit!)
Scientific Verification of Vedic Lit and Proof
Myth of Aryan Invasion and Proof
More About the Vedantas
Dwarka
There is actually substanstial evidence that the Mahabharata war actually occurred, such as in Kurukshetra, the scene of the Mahabharata war, iron arrows and spearheads have been excavated and dated by thermoluminence to 2,800 B.C.E., the approximate date of the war given within the Mahabharata itself. And below I’d like to talk about another one.
Dwarka, known as Dvaraka, is one of the cities that are mentioned in the Mahabharata. It was a port city having a lot of trade relations. More famously it is known famously it is referred to the capital of Krishna Bagwaan’s capital, which arose from the ocean at his commend and returned when Krishna Bagwaan no longer walked the earth. The most expensive materials were used for construction, commonly gold, precious stone sand silver. This is all learnt from the Mahabharata and we also learn:

The sea, which had been beating against the shores, suddenly broke the boundary that was imposed on it by nature. The sea rushed into the city. It coursed through the streets of the beautiful city. The sea covered up everything in the city. I saw the beautiful buildings becoming submerged one by one. In a matter of a few moments it was all over. The sea had now become as placid as a lake. There was no trace of the city. Dwaraka was just a name; just a memory. – Arjuna, Mahabharata

The search for the lost city was ongoing since the 1930s. The MAU (Marine Archaelogy Unit) of the National Institute of Oceanography took part in this search in 1983 and yes, it was found. Excavations have been made actually finding this city underwater CORRESPONDING with the Mahabharata. Scary isn’t it? It was discovered between 1983 to 1990, and found to have been built in six sectors along the banks of a river. The foundation of boulders on which the city's walls were erected proves that the land was reclaimed from the sea. The general layout found agrees with what is found in the Vedas. Moreover, dating has shown that it appears to have sunk approximately 9500 years ago. This once again, appears to have occurred during the Mahabharata period.