July2015doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0785r1
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2015-07-13
Author(s):
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Stephen McCann / BlackBerryLtd / 200 Bath Road, Slough, Berkshire, SL1 3XE, UK / +44 1753 667099 /
IEEE 802.11 Plenary Meeting – Session #152
Hilton Village, Waikoloa, HI, USA
July13th–17th, 2015
IEEE 802.11Opening Plenary, Monday 13th July2015
The chair: Adrian STEPHENs (Intel Corporation) opened the meeting at 10:31Hawaii–Aleutian Standard Time (HAST).
Jon ROSDAHLVice-chair 1 (VC1)CSR
Dorothy STANLEYVice-chair 2 (VC2)Aruba
Stephen MCCANNSecretaryBlackBerry
There are330 votingand 11 ex-officio members of IEEE 802.11
- Approve/modify joint opening agenda(11-15-0720r1)
1.1.This is the main agenda for the week and shows the allocation of meetings to time slots. There are also some other documents this week to consider, which are on the server.
1.2.Chair: Any modifications to the agenda?
1.3.None
1.4.Move to approve the agenda
1.5.Moved Jim Lansford, 2nd Mark Hamilton
1.6.No objection to the approval of the agenda.
- Notices
2.1.There is one IEEE staff member present (Kathryn Bennett).
2.2.The IEEE-SA president Bruce Kraemer is also present today.
2.3.Please note that photographs and recording devices are not allowed in these meetings and put cell phones to vibrate please. However, these will be allowed on Wednesday.
- May2015WG Minutes
3.1.Move to approve the VancouverMay2015 minutes document 11-15-0589r1
3.2.Moved: Stuart Kerry, 2nd: Al Petrick
3.3.Comment (C): Since this rev for the minutes has updated an affiliation, will the web site be also updated?
3.4.Chair: yes, I’ll do this over the weekend.
3.5.Following neither discussion nor dissent the minutes were approved by unanimous consent.
3.6.Move to approve the Zhuhai May2015 minutes document 11-15-0711r1
3.7.Moved: Stephen McCann, 2nd: Jon Rosdahl
3.8.Following neither discussion nor dissent the minutes were approved by unanimous consent.
- Attendance
4.1.Please can you remember to login and register your attendance.
4.2.24 people attended this meeting for the first time out of 234people in the room.
4.3.Chair: There will be a new member’s meeting today at PM1 today, in room Queen 4.
- Policy and Procedures(11-15-0746r1)
5.1.Regarding patent information, please view for IEEE-SA patent information.
5.2.The VC2 called for essential patents information.
5.3.No statements were made.
5.4.The IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) is considering rules changes to their documents as shown. These will be forwarded to Audcom in July 2015.
5.5.There are also some suggested changes to the IEEE 802.11 Operations Manual (OM) regarding the “Former Voter” status.
5.6.No questions
- Announcements (11-15-721r1)
6.1.Incoming Liaisons(slide #3)
6.1.1.Chair: There are several liaisons coming in this week:
6.1.2.3GPP: These liaisons will be handled by IEEE 802.19 this week.
6.1.3.IEEE 802.19 Chair: There are several liaisons from 3GPP this week. They will be considered on Tuesday AM1 within IEEE 802.19. The goal is to create some presentations for a 3GPP LAA workshop in Beijing. Additionally there is a presentation in IEEE 802.19 PM1 about LTE-U, which may of interest to people.
6.1.4.NGMN: the IEEE 802.11 REG SC has been looking after this topic.
6.1.5.No questions
6.2.Publicity SC Chair
6.2.1.Chair: Stephen McCann has decided to step down as PUB SC chair. Therefore I would like to open nominations for this role. If you are interested please come and discuss it with me.
6.2.2.Statement from me about PUB SC on Thursday
6.2.3.No questions
6.3.Missed Ballots
6.3.1.Chair: I have now added an extra column on the web site to show how many missed ballots people have. Please look at this link
6.3.2.Question (Q): If I return a valid letter ballot response, does the number go from 2 to 0 or 2 to 1?
6.3.3.Chair; It’s a sliding window, so it will decrease from 2 to 1.
6.3.4.No questions
6.4.Joint Meetings this week(slide #7)
6.4.1.Chair: TGak, 802.1 Qbz, 802.1AC and ARC will all have a large joint meeting this week.
6.4.2.Q: the online schedule shows both a TGak and a separate joint meeting at the same time.
6.4.3.VC1: Ok, I’ll sort that out.
6.4.4.No questions
6.5.Other IEEE 802 working groups (11-15-0741r0)
6.5.1.VC1: Slide #4shows the agendas of the other working groups, together with an online schedule which is suitable for most mobile devices. There are various QR codes to find agenda and schedules.
6.5.2.Q: IEEE 802.22 appears to be missing.
6.5.3.Answer (A): that’s a typo and will be corrected.
6.6.September 2015 interim(slide #7)
6.6.1.VC1: Please note that the registration for September 2015 meeting is now open. This meeting will be held in Bangkok.
6.7.Attendance(slide #9)
6.7.1.VC1: Please remember to register your attendance including affiliation for each meeting that you attend. There are 336 people registered for IEEE 802.11 this week.
6.8.Documentation(slide #10)
6.8.1.VC1: Please can you use the local server, to save the bandwidth coming to and from the hotel.
6.9.Breaks and Wednesday social (slide #12)
6.9.1.Please note the times of lunches and breaks.
6.9.2.You can also use the Wateredge’s restaurant to eat lunch.
6.9.3.The social is in the Hotel’s Luau area this week and is a casual reception with Hawaiian entertainment from 7.00 - 9.30pm. If it rains it will be held within the Monarchy Ballroom.
6.10.Mid-week Plenary topics (slide #8)
6.10.1.Chair: This slide shows various topics for this week’s mid-week plenary. The main event will be the 25th anniversary of IEEE 802.11.
6.11.802EC and IEEE-SA Standard Board decisions (slide #9)
6.11.1.Chair: There was a document which appeared to be an IEEE 802 output document, which was really an IEEE 802.11 output document. Therefore this document was not approved by the 802EC. It will be reconsidered later in this meeting as an IEEE 802.11 document.
6.11.2.C: Note that there has been a change in the IEEE 802.11 output document to the FCC and so the revision number has changed.
6.11.3.Chair: ok
- Status of all groups (11-15-0745r1)
7.1.The status of each group was presented.
7.2.The change in officers for the week is shown in slide #15.
7.3.Treasurer’s Report (11-15-0740r1):
7.3.1.No questions
7.4.Timeline
7.4.1.Nothing to report over the last few weeks.
7.4.2.Q: Please can you add a publication date to the timeline chart?
7.4.3.A: Yes. It will take some re-programming, but I can do it.
7.5.Some extra notes not covered in the slides:
7.5.1.Editor’s Meeting: This occurs at 7am on Tuesday morning
7.5.2.PAR SC: This new SC will formalize the review of PARs from other IEEE 802 working groups. There are 9 PARs to be reviewed this week from other groups and one from IEEE 802.11 (NGP)
7.5.3.WNG: There is one meeting on Tuesday morning to consider future topics for IEEE 802.11. There are currently 3 presentations.
7.5.4.TGax:There are about 70 presentations this week, so TGax may request more time slots during the Wednesday mid-week plenary.
7.5.5.NGP: Will consider comments on their PAR this week, with the aim of asking the 802EC to approve the creation of TGaz on Friday afternoon.
- Liaison to FCC(11-15-0778r0)
8.1.This is a liaison letter to the FCC based on the document from 2 months ago.
8.2.Move to approve transmission of document 11-15/683r5 ( ) to the FCC as a letter in response to FCC docket 15-47, granting the WG Chair editorial license.
8.3.Q: What does it mean “resolve” on slide #15. Perhaps you could change the word to “revise”.
8.4.Chair: It is referring to resolving the exclusion zones, not refining them.
8.5.C: It’s highly likely that these exclusion zones will be changed later this year.
8.6.Moved by: Richard Kennedy, 2nd by: Peter Ecclesine
8.7.For: 106, Against: 0, Abstain: 2 (Motion passes)
- TGaj vice-chairelection (11-15-0778r0)
9.1.Motion: Confirm Jiamin Chen as TGaj Vice chair
9.2.Note: 802.11 OM 4.3: TG Vice-Chair is elected by a TG majority approval and confirmed by a WG majority approval. Jiamin Chen elected as TGaj Vice chair in May 11aj interim, see 11-15-0717 Page 11
9.3.Moved by: Dorothy Stanley, Seconded by: Stephen McCann
9.4.No objection to approving by unanimous consent. Confirmed by applause.
- Any Other Business
10.1.Meeting recessed at 12:10HAST
Wednesday, 15thJuly2015
IEEE 802.11 Mid-Week Plenary
Presiding chair: Adrian STEPHENS (Intel Corporation) opened the meeting at 10:31HAST
289people present.
- Approve/modify joint opening agenda(11-15-0720r2)
11.1.C: I’d like to add an item to discuss attendance credit prosecution
11.2.Chair: There have been a couple of changes, for example and incoming liaison from the Wi-Fi Alliance (WFA). I’ll also finish the meeting with the 25th anniversary celebration.
11.3.Any objection to accepting this change to the agenda.
11.4.Moved: Stuart Kerry, Second: Jon Rosdahl
11.5.No objections, so moved and approved.
- Call for Essential Patents
12.1.Call for essential patents
12.2.No statements were made.
- CAC (Chair’s Advisory Committee)
13.1.Reminder about the CAC meeting at 19:30 on Thursday. Need to consider documentation for the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) meeting on Friday.
- Wi-Fi Alliance (WFA) Liaison (11-15-0930r0)
14.1.The last meeting was in Sao Paulo in June2015 and here is a summary of current activities.
14.2.No questions
- Room change requests
15.1.TGai would like to release Thurs PM2
15.2.TGah would like to release Thurs AM2
15.3.Please can TGax have Thurs AM2 and PM2
15.4.TGaj would like to release Wed PM1 and Thurs PM1
15.5.TGak would like to have Wed PM1
15.6.JTC1 would like to release Thurs PM1
15.7.Chair: All these are possible.
15.8.Motion to approve these changes
15.8.1.Moved Marc Emmelmann, 2nd Michael Fisher
15.8.2.No objection to approving by unanimous consent.
- Working Group Motions (11-15-0747r2 slide #7)
16.1.11ai letter ballot
16.1.1.Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from WGLB213 on TGai D5.0 as contained in document 11-15/0772r6,
16.1.2.Instruct the editor to incorporate the resolutions with the D5.0 and create D6.0.
16.1.3.Approve a 15 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should TGai D6.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?”.
16.1.4.Moved by: Hiroshi Mano on behalf of the TG
16.1.5.[TG result: Moved: Ping Fang, Seconded: Lee Armstrong, Result: 11-0-0]
16.1.6.No objection to approving by unanimous consent.
16.2.NGP PAR
16.2.1.Believing that the PAR contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE-SA guidelines,
16.2.2.Request that the PAR contained in 11-15/0030r9 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for EC approval to submit to NesCom.
16.2.3.Moved by: Jonathan Segev, Seconded: Ganesh Venkatesan
16.2.4.[NGP SG vote: Moved: Ganesh Venkatesan, 2nd: Allan Zhu, Results: 20-0-0]
16.2.5.For: 118, Against: 0, Abstain: 1 (Motion passes)
16.3.NGP CSD
16.3.1.Believing that the CSD contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE-SA guidelines,
16.3.2.Request that the CSD contained in 11-15/0262r4 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for EC approval.
16.3.3.Moved by: Jonathan Segev, Seconded: Ian Sherlock
16.3.4.[NGP SG vote: Moved: Ganesh Venkatesan, 2nd: Allan Zhu, Results: 20-0-0]
16.3.5.For: 123, Against: 0, Abstain: 2 (Motion passes)
- IEEE 802.11 25th Anniversary Celebrations: External (11-15-0936r0)
17.1.Chair: I’d to introduce Shuang Yu: Director, Global Standards Solutions & Content Marketingand also Jeff Pane Solutions Marketing Specialist, both from the IEEE Standards Association.
17.2.Shuang will present some material about the external face of this year’s celebrations about the IEEE 802.11 25thanniversary celebration
17.3.The celebration will comprise two phases, the first today and the second on the 10th September 2015, as that is the actually 10th anniversary of the initial IEEE 802.11 meeting.
17.4.Chair: I will also post this document which contains a link to the video that Shuang mentioned.
17.5.Q: Would it be able to companies which produce Wi-Fi equipment to join in such celebrations?
17.6.Chair: Perhaps I can discuss that with you offline.
17.7.Q: Who will pay for all this.
17.8.A: It will come from IEEE-SA central funding.
17.9.Q: How does the IEEE-SA then acquire that money.
17.10.VC1: Your meeting fee is not going towards this campaign. It comes from the IEEE-SA membership fees and through the sale of IEEE-SA standards.
- IEEE 802.11 25th Anniversary Celebrations: Internal
18.1.Several guests were invited to join the IEEE 802.11 members within the meeting room.
18.2.Chair: At this point, recording by photograph and video is allowed.
18.3.The meeting introduced the following speakers to assist with today’s IEEE 802.11 25th anniversary celebration:
18.3.1.Vic Hayes (by external video link)[11-15-0786r0]
18.3.2.Stuart Kerry[11-15-0906r0]
18.3.3.Bruce Kraemer[11-15-0935r0]
18.3.4.Adrian Stephens [11-15-0836r0]
18.4.These are the previous and current chairs of the IEEE 802.11 working group.
18.5.There will also be an open microphone session afterwards.
- Any Other Business
19.1.Meeting recessed at 12:20HAST
Friday, 17thJuly2015
IEEE 802.11 Closing Plenary
Call to order at 08:01HAST by Adrian STEPHENS (Intel Corporation).
90people present in the room.
- Agenda (11-15-0720r4)
20.1.Any objection to adopting the changes to the agenda for some extra reports and motions
20.2.Move to approve the agenda in document 11-15-0720r4
20.3.Moved: Stuart Kerry, Second: Rich Kennedy
20.4.No objections, so moved and approved.
- Call for Essential Patents
21.1.The meeting is still operating the P&Ps as described on Monday
21.2.Call for Essential Patents and Letters of Assurance (LoA)
21.3.None
- Announcements (11-15-0722r0)
22.1.Minutes and documents
22.1.1.Please can everyone remember that minutes, should be completed within 30 days, once the meeting is closed.
22.2.September 2015
22.2.1.There is currently a draft agenda for the September 2015 meeting and there will be our usual CAC teleconference meetings between now and that meeting, on 10th August and 8th September.
22.3.LoA(slide #9)
22.3.1.Chair: Please note the current LoAs and 5 outstanding LoAs of which I’ve had no response.
22.3.2.Q: What happens when companies do not want to provide LoA?
22.3.3.Chair: As far as I’m aware no-one but Qualcomm has communicated by PatCom.
22.3.4.Q: How do you determine if a company has an outstanding LoA?
22.3.5.Chair: If someone tells me through one of this weeks’ meetings, I then send an email to that company. I then wait for a response.
22.3.6.Q: Is there a list of companies that have privately spoken to the chair, that we may not be aware of?
22.3.7.Chair: Not specifically, but it’s a summation of existing LoAs and the companies that I’ve highlight on the slide.
22.4.IEEE Store(slide #10)
22.4.1.Chair: everything is currently up to date.
22.4.2.Q: May I request that TGai Draft 6.0 be placed in the store once it passes it’s letter ballot.
22.4.3.Chair: Yes. Action Chair
22.5.ISO/IET JTC1/SC6 (slide #11)
22.5.1.This slide showsthe drafts, which will be shared with ISO.
22.6.IEEE Region 8 Milestone Award (11-15-0915r0)
22.6.1.Chair: This is some extra information from Vic Hayes that he wished to add to his statement on Wednesday.
22.6.2.C: An IEEE milestone can only be awarded for something that is over 25 years old.
- Attendance (11-15-0748r0)
23.1.Chair: The attendance is shown in the slide desk. TGax has been the main group this week, as it has met in nearly every slot.
23.2.Q: regarding slide #4, meetings like Editors, WNG, PUB are not shown.
23.3.Chair: yes indeed, as the slide just shows the more popular meetings.
- Meeting Location(11-15-0741r1)
24.1.VC1: Can I have a show of hands to see who is in favor of returning to this location again?
24.2.For: 53, Against: 16
- Future Venues(slide #17)
25.1.Q: Please book your flights to Bangkok, Thailand in September 2015
25.2.VC1: If you can provide any assistance with local information about Bangkok, or indeed the future plenary in Dallas (November 2015), please get in contact with me.
25.3.VC1: These slides then go on to describe the future venue plans for the next couple of years.
25.4.Q: Regarding this meeting, I’d like to thank everyone to thank the IEEE 802.11 officers for organizing the excellent 25th anniversary celebrations on Wednesday.
- Timeline Update
26.1.There are changes to the following timelines: TGah, TGai, TGak, TGaq and TGmc. The timeline chart will be updated shortly.
26.2.Q: Please can TGaj review their timeline please
26.3.A: If you can communicate with the TGaj officers that would be great.
- WG Committee Reports (11-15-0748r0)
27.1.Technical editor (slide #10)
27.1.1.No questions
27.2.ARCSC (slide #17)
27.2.1.No questions
27.3.PAR SC (slide #22)
27.3.1.C: I think the issue is distinct identity, which is missing from this 802.15.3 PAR.
27.3.2.Chair: Thank you to Jon Rosdahl for doing all this hard work with the PAR SC.
27.4.Publicity SC(slide #55)
27.4.1.Chair: Please note that Stephen McCann has stepped down as Chair of this group, so if anyone is interested please let me know. If no-one volunteers then the PUB SC will be dissolved.
27.4.2.Q: Should there be a caveat that states that the “What’s IEEE 802.11 doing” presentation is only a personal view and not an official IEEE 802.11 position.
27.4.3.A: Yes and there’s a statement to that effect on the first slide of that slide deck.
27.4.4.There was a round of applause for Stephen’s help with the chairing of this group over the last few years.
27.5.Regulatory SC(slide #58)
27.5.1.C: I would like to thank Peter Ecclesine for his work on radar issues this week.
27.5.2.Q: What is the ECC?
27.5.3.A: Electronic Communications Committee. It’s the European national body regulator, which works for the EC (European Community).
27.6.WNG SC(slide #64)
27.6.1.Chair: Clint Chaplin wishes to step down as chair of WNG, although he will remain as vice-chair if WNG SC requires a vice-chair in the future. There was a round of applause for Clint.
27.7.IEEE 802 JTC1 SC (slide #68)
27.7.1.No questions
27.8.TGmc (slide #74)
27.8.1.No questions
27.9.TGah (slide #81)
27.9.1.No questions
27.10.TGai (slide #87)
27.10.1.C: If the EC approves the sponsor ballot later today, the plan is not to have any TGai meetings in September 2015 (Bangkok)
27.11.TGaj (slide #97)
27.11.1.Chair: I understand that you wish to do a comment collection. When will this be?
27.11.2.A: I’m not sure at the moment, but I will communicate with everyone using the email reflector. It should be next week.
27.11.3.Chair: comment collection will use ePoll. Communicate with me by email to arrange the comment collection.
27.12.TGak (slide #106)
27.12.1.No questions
27.13.TGaq (slide #108)
27.13.1.Q: is internal review same as comment collection?
27.13.2.TG Chair: no, this is more an editorial review.
27.14.TGax (slide #111)
27.14.1.No questions
27.15.TGay (slide #117)
27.15.1.No questions
27.16.NGP (slide #117)
27.16.1.No questions
- Coffee Break
28.1.Chair: At this point, I’d like to know if anyone wishes to have a coffee break.
28.2.The majority indicated no
- Liaison Reports(11-15-0748r0)
29.1.IEEE 802.18(slide #130)
29.1.1.Q: regarding slide #131, was there anything that impacted IEEE 802.11?
29.1.2.A: No
29.2.IEEE 802.24 (slide #136)
29.2.1.No questions
29.3.IEEE 802.1 OmniRAN (slide #140)
29.3.1.No questions
29.4.IEEE 802 EC Privacy Recommendation SG (slide #145)
29.4.1.Q: there is a concern about the level of interest, if this work continues in IEEE 802.1. What are you looking to do to encourage people to participate going forward.