June 2016 doc.: IEEE 802.11-16/0743r0
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2016-06-01
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / email
Hitoshi Morioka / SRC Software / Fukuoka, JAPAN /
TGai May 2016 Waikoloa Meeting Minutes
Chair: Hiroshi Mano (Koden Techno Info)
Vice Chair: Marc Emmelmann (self)
Secretary: Hitoshi Morioka (SRC Software)
Editor: Lee Armstrong (US DoT)
Editor: Ping Fang (Huawei)
Monday AM2 Session:
- Chair called the meeting to order at 10:34.
- Agenda 11-16/532r1.
2.1. No changes.
- Chair reminder on meeting and patent policy.
3.1. No claims.
- Minutes Approval
4.1. Motion to approve Atlanta session minutes
4.1.1. Motion:
Approve TGai Meeting Minutes for the IEEE 802.11 Atlanta meeting:
- 16-0186r0
- https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/16/11-16-0186-00-00ai-january-2016-atlanta-sesssion-minutes.doc
4.1.2. Moved: Peter Yee
4.1.3. Seconded: Stuart Kerry
4.1.4. Result: 11/0/0
4.1.5. Motion passes.
4.2. Motion to approve teleconference minutes
4.2.1. Motion:
Approve TGai teleconference meeting minutes of Atlanta to Waikoloa meeting.
- 16-0272r09
- https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/16/11-16-0272-09-00ai-january-may-teleconference-minutes.doc
4.2.2. Moved: Lee Armstrong
4.2.3. Seconded: Peter Yee
4.2.4. Result: 11/0/1
4.2.5. Motion passes.
- Editor Report Lee Armstrong
5.1. D7.1 is now posted with redline against D7.0.
5.2. It incorporates all approved resolutions.
- Current status of the 1st recirculation SB and CRC
6.1. 89 CIDs have been approved in teleconferences.
6.2. 66CIDs have been assigned.
6.3. Remaining CIDs will be discussed one by one in this face-to-face meeting.
- Comment Resolutions
7.1. Motion #329
7.1.1. Move to approve the comment resolutions as contained in
the “2016-05-10-telco” tab of 11-16-0505r6.
7.1.2. Moved: Lee Armstrong
7.1.3. Seconded: Rob Sun
7.1.4. Result: 9/0/4
7.1.5. Motion passes.
7.2. Motion
7.2.1. Move to apprvoe the following agenda as specific time allocation for particular topics.
Monday: AM-2 ======
Peter Yee: DCN is 11-16-0596-00-00ai
Rob Sun -- 16/552r0 (--> asked to be moved to AM-2, to be confirmed by TG)
Monday: PM-1 ======
Monday: PM-2 ======
Rob Sun -- 16/552r0 (--> asked to be moved to AM-2, to be confirmed by TG)
Dan Harkins -- 11-16/0598r0
Tuesday: PM-1 ======
Mark Hamilton & Jason Lee: XXX
Peter Khoury: Multiple BSSID Support 11-16-0586-00-00ai
Peter Khoury: MaxChannelTime in Probe Requests 11-16-0587-00-00ai
Mark Hamilton: Resolutions for CIDs 20082 20160 20169 20080 -- 16/0600 (text changes for above submission)
Wednesday: AM-1 ======
Stephen McCann: CID 20157 resolution, which is 11-16-0585.
7.2.2. Moved: Lee Armstrong
7.2.3. Seconded: Rob Sun
7.2.4. Result: 10/2/3
7.2.5. Motion passes.
7.3. more counters 11-16/0596r1 Peter Yee (NSA/IAD)
7.3.1. FIPS approved mode will make larger market.
7.3.2. Nonce procedure is complicated.
7.3.3. There were 3 negative voters for GCM in 1st SB for D6.0.
7.4. Motion #331
7.4.1. Move to approve the comment resolution for CIDs 20045-20054, 20124 and 20167 as follows,
Revised: incorportate the changes as shown in 11-16-0596r1.
7.4.2. Moved: Peter Yee
7.4.3. Seconded: Rob Sun
7.4.4. Discussion
7.4.4.1. Reverting will reproduce negative votes.
7.4.4.2. Recorded vote requested.
7.4.5. Vote records
7.4.5.1. See Annex.
7.4.6. Result: 6/4/10
7.4.7. Motion fails.
7.5. Comment resolutions from Rob Sun 11-16/0552r0 Rob Sun (Huawei)
7.5.1. CID 20171
7.5.1.1. Reject.
7.5.2. CID20152
7.5.2.1. Reject.
7.5.3. CID20100
7.5.3.1. Reject.
7.5.4. CID20099
7.5.4.1. Reject.
7.5.5. Refer the document URL, the motion number and the minutes URL.
7.5.6. 20171 is not identical to the referred CIDs.
7.5.7. 20171 and 20152 are different comments. So it is impossible both CIDs are identical to the specific CID.
7.6. State Machine Changes 11-16/0691r0 Michael Montemurro (BlackBerry)
7.7. Motion #332
7.7.1. Move to
Instruct editor to incorporate the changes as shown in the docment 11-16-0691r0, resolving comment 20171,20152,20100 and 20099 as “Revised: incorporate the changes as shown in the docment 11-16-0691r0”
7.7.2. Moved: Mike Montemurro
7.7.3. Seconded: Mark Hamilton
7.7.4. Result: 12/6/2
7.7.5. Motion fails.
- Recessed at 12:30.
Monday PM1 Session:
- Chair called the meeting to order at 13:33.
- Comment Resolutions
2.1. Resolutions for Comments Assigned to Hitoshi 11-16/0660r0 Hitoshi Morioka (SRC Software)
2.1.1. No comments.
2.2. Motion #333
2.2.1. Move to
Move to approve the comment resolution for CID 20025 as contained in the “Hitoshi Morioka” tab of 11-16-0660r0.
2.2.2. Moved: Hitoshi Morioka
2.2.3. Seconded: Lee Armstrong
2.2.4. Result: 5/0/5
2.2.5. Motion passes.
2.3. Comment Database Marc Emmelmann
2.3.1. CID20069
2.3.1.1. Assigned to Xiaofei Wang.
2.3.2. CID20101
2.3.2.1. Reject.
2.3.2.2. Any future amendment can make the requested change if and when needed.
2.3.2.3. Ready for motion.
2.3.3. CID20137
2.3.3.1. Deferred.
2.3.4. CID20132
2.3.4.1. Revised.
2.3.4.2. Ready for motion.
2.3.5. CID20161
2.3.5.1. Accept.
2.3.5.2. Ready for motion.
2.3.6. CID20165
2.3.6.1. Assigned to Dan Harkins.
2.3.7. CID20110
2.3.7.1. Accept.
2.3.7.2. Ready for motion.
2.3.8. CID20011
2.3.8.1. Revised.
2.3.8.2. Ready for motion.
2.3.9. CID20137
2.3.9.1. Revised.
2.3.9.2. Ready for motion.
- Recessed at 14:11.
Monday PM2 Session:
- Chair called the meeting to order at 16:07.
- Comment Resolutions
2.1. Motion #334
2.1.1. Move to
Move to approve the comment resolution in the “2016-05-15-PM1” tab of 11-16-0505r8.
2.1.2. Moved: George Calcev
2.1.3. Seconded: Hitoshi Morioka
2.1.4. Result: 3/0/2
2.1.5. Motion passes.
2.2. PKEX comment 11-16/0598r0 Dan Harkins (HPE)
2.2.1. CID20014
2.2.1.1. Accept.
2.2.2. CID20165
2.2.2.1. Modify descriptions related to PKEX.
2.3. Motion #335
2.3.1. Move to
Accept the proposed resolution for CID 20014 and set the resolution field to “accept”
And
Set the resolution for CID 20165 to “revised: incorporate the changes as 11-16/0598r0 which adds the use of inverse()”
2.3.2. Moved: Dan Harkins
2.3.3. Seconded: Jon Rosdahl
2.3.4. Result: 8/0/2
2.3.5. Motion passes.
2.4. CID20168 George Calcev (Huawei)
2.4.1. Accept.
2.4.2. Ready for motion.
2.5. Motion #336
2.5.1. Move to
Accept the proposed resolution for CID 20168 and set the resolution field to “accept”
2.5.2. Moved: George Calcev
2.5.3. Seconded: Peter Yee
2.5.4. Result: 6/0/3
2.5.5. Motion passes.
2.6. Comment Database Marc Emmelmann
2.6.1. CID20144
2.6.1.1. Approved by motion #326.
2.6.1.2. Modify resolution.
2.6.2. Motion #337
2.6.2.1. Move to change the resolutio for CID20144 to
Revised, there are several changes from CID 10534 as indicated in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/16/11-16-0165-01-00ai-resolution-for-cid-10534.docx, the other changes have been implemented but the adding paragraph is missing, add the missing paragraph.
At page 109 of D7.0 delete previous addition, inserting it in the proper place.
2.6.2.2. Moved: George Calcev
2.6.2.3. Seconded: Peter Yee
2.6.2.4. Result: 6/0/3
2.6.2.5. Motion passes.
2.6.3. CID20083
2.6.3.1. Reject.
The pro's and con's of saving two bits were discussed and the group did not agree that saving the additional bits by combining the fields.
2.6.4. Motion #338
2.6.4.1. Move to approve the resolution for CID20083 as
Reject: The pro's and con's of saving two bits were discussed and the group did not agree on saving the additional bits by combining the fields. The two subfields do not always have to be set simultaneously as one could consider configurations in which a router is not announced (i.e., single network configurations).
2.6.4.2. Moved: Peter Yee
2.6.4.3. Seconded: Dan Harkins
2.6.4.4. Result: 7/0/1
2.6.4.5. Motion passes.
2.6.5. CID20039
2.6.5.1. Revised.
2.6.5.2. P145L60: Change "shall be deemed to have successfully" to "complete successfully"
2.6.5.3. P156L43, P156L51, P158L33, P158L44 and P158L51: Change "authentication shall be deemed a failure" to "authentication fails".
2.6.5.4. P158L35: "authentication exchange shall be deemed a failure" to "authentication exchange fails".
2.6.6. Motion #339
2.6.6.1. Move to approve the resolution for CID20039 as
REVISED: At P145L60 (D7.0) change "shall be deemed to have completed successfully" to "completes successfully"At P156L43 and L51; and P138L33 and L44 and L51: change "authentication shall be deemed a failure" to "authentication fails"at P138L35: change "the authentication exchange shall be deemed a failure" to "the authentication exchange fails"
2.6.6.2. Moved: Jon Rosdahl
2.6.6.3. Seconded: James Lepp
2.6.6.4. Result: 7/0/1
2.6.6.5. Motion passes.
2.6.7. CID20041, CID20042
2.6.7.1. Same as 20039.
2.6.8. CID20043
2.6.8.1. P157L7: change "If authentication is deemed a failure," to "If authentication fails,"
2.6.8.2. Ready for motion.
2.6.9. CID20044
2.6.9.1. Same as 20043.
2.6.9.2. Ready for motion.
2.6.10. CID20094
2.6.10.1. Reject.
2.6.10.2. This is an error check. The element is normally valid and passed along.
2.6.10.3. Ready for motion.
- Recessed at 17:59.
Tuesday PM1 Session:
- Chair called the meeting to order at 13:36.
- Comment Resolutions
2.1. Motion #340
2.1.1. Move to
Move to approve the comment resolution in the “2016-05-16-pm2” tab of 11-16-0505r9.
2.1.2. Moved: Xiaofei Wang
2.1.3. Seconded: Hitoshi Morioka
2.1.4. Result: 5/0/6
2.1.5. Motion passes.
2.2. TGai SB1 proposed resolutions clause 11.1.4.3 11-16/0679r0 Jae Seung Lee (ETRI)
2.2.1. CID20055
2.2.1.1. Accept.
2.2.1.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.2. CID20059
2.2.2.1. Accept.
2.2.2.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.3. CID 20060
2.2.3.1. Accept.
2.2.3.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.4. CID 20064
2.2.4.1. Reject.
2.2.4.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.5. CID 20066
2.2.5.1. Revised.
2.2.5.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.6. CID 20071
2.2.6.1. Accept.
2.2.6.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.7. CID 20072
2.2.7.1. Revised.
2.2.7.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.8. CID 20074
2.2.8.1. Accept.
2.2.8.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.9. CID 20075
2.2.9.1. Revised.
2.2.9.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.10. CID 20076
2.2.10.1. Reject.
2.2.10.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.11. CID 20079
2.2.11.1. Reject.
2.2.11.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.12. CID 20081
2.2.12.1. Revised.
2.2.12.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.13. CID 20140
2.2.13.1. Reject.
2.2.13.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.14. CID 20093
2.2.14.1. Revised.
2.2.14.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.15. CID 20174
2.2.15.1. Revised.
2.2.15.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.16. CID 20009
2.2.16.1. Revised.
2.2.16.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.17. CID 20024
2.2.17.1. Accept.
2.2.17.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.18. CID 20109
2.2.18.1. Accept.
2.2.18.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.19. CID 20150
2.2.19.1. Revised.
2.2.19.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.20. CID 20151
2.2.20.1. Revised.
2.2.20.2. Ready for motion.
2.2.21. CID 20142
2.2.21.1. Reject.
2.2.21.2. Revisit later.
2.3. Motion #341
2.3.1. Move to
Approve the comment resolution as shown in 11-16-0679r0 except CID20142.
2.3.2. Moved: Jae Seung Lee
2.3.3. Seconded: Mark Hamilton
2.3.4. Result: 9/0/3
2.3.5. Motion passes.
2.4. Multiple BSSID Support 11-16/0586r1 Peter Khoury (Ruckus Wireless)
2.5. MaxChannelTime in Probe Requests 11-16/0587r0 Peter Khoury (Ruckus Wireless)
2.5.1. Straw poll
2.5.1.1. Do you prefer to spend more time to make those features mandatory?
2.5.1.2. Result (Y/N): 8/1
2.6. Resolutions for CIDs 20082 20160 20169 20080 11-16/0600r0 Mark Hamilton (Ruckus)
2.6.1. CID20169
2.6.1.1. Revised.
2.6.2. CID 20160
2.6.2.1. Revised.
2.6.3. CID 20080
2.6.3.1. Revised.
2.6.4. CID 20082
2.6.4.1. Reject.
2.6.5. CID 20162, 20170
2.6.5.1. Revised.
2.6.6. Revisit tomorrow.
- Recessed at 15:31.
Wednesday AM1 Session:
- Chair called the meeting to order at 8:01.
- Comment Resolutions
2.1. CID 20157 resolution 11-16/0585r0 Stephen McCann (BlackBerry)
2.1.1. CID20157
2.1.1.1. Modify “will” to “is subject to”.
2.1.2. Stephen uploaded r1.
2.2. Motion #342
2.2.1. Move to approve the comment resolution for CID20157 as,
Revised: Incorporate the changes as shown in 11-16/585r1.
The CRC agrees with the commenter and has rewritten the clause.
2.2.2. Moved: Stephen McCann
2.2.3. Seconded: Mike Montemurro
2.2.4. Result: 13/0/6
2.2.5. Motion passes.
2.3. Resolutions for Comments Assigned to Hitoshi 11-16/0660r1 Hitoshi Morioka (SRC Software)
2.3.1. CID20108
2.3.1.1. Reject.
2.3.1.2. Ready for motion.
2.3.2. CID20113
2.3.2.1. Reject.
2.3.2.2. Ready for motion.
2.4. Motion #343
2.4.1. Move to approve the comment resolution as shown in “Proposal” tab of 11-16/660r1.
2.4.2. Moved: Hitoshi Morioka
2.4.3. Seconded: Lee Armstrong
2.4.4. Result: 12/0/5
2.4.5. Motion passes.
2.5. Comment Resolution for CID 20069 20136 20138 11-16/0704r0 Xiaofei Wang (InterDigital)
2.5.1. CID20136
2.5.1.1. Revised.
2.5.1.2. Modify resolution.
2.5.2. CID 20138
2.5.2.1. Revised.
2.5.2.2. Modify resolution.
2.5.3. CID 20096
2.5.3.1. Revised.
2.5.4. Xiaofei uploaded r1.
2.6. Motion #344
2.6.1. Move to approve the comment resolution as shown in “XiaoFei” tab of 16/0704r1.
2.6.2. Moved: Xiaofei Wang
2.6.3. Seconded: Stephen McCann
2.6.4. Result: 15/0/4
2.6.5. Motion passes.
2.7. Resolving Deadlocks in Comment Resolution 11-16/0712r0 Marc Emmelmann
2.7.1. Chair will send announcement to the reflector.
- Recessed at 9:10.
Thursday AM2 Session:
- Chair called the meeting to order at 10:33.
- Comment Resolutions
2.1. Vice chair announced that each presentation is limited to 20 minutes.
2.1.1. No objections.
2.2. Two AEAD Comments 11-16/0726r0 Dan Harkins
2.2.1. CID20124
2.2.1.1. Accept.
2.2.2. CID20167
2.2.2.1. Revised.
2.2.3. No comments.
2.3. Attendees count at 10:47 34 attendees
2.4. Motion #345
2.4.1. Move to
Approve the comment resolution for CID20167 and 20124 as shown in 11-16/0726r0.
2.4.2. Moved: Dan Harkins
2.4.3. Seconded: Peter Yee
2.4.4. Result: 16/0/11
2.4.5. Motion passes.
2.5. Resolution of the GCM CIDs 11-16/0735r0 Dan Harkins
2.5.1. Resolutions related to GCM comments.
2.5.2. Proposing procedural reject.
2.5.3. Before procedural rejection, we have to consider all contributions. (WG chair)
2.5.4. Motion deferred.
2.6. More Counters 11-16/0596r3 Peter Yee
2.6.1. Duplicate with approved Dan's resolution?
2.6.2. CID20167 is duplicate and modify the resolution.
2.6.3. The resolution for CID20124 is identical with Dan's one.
2.7. Attendees count at 11:41 37 attendees
2.8. Motion #346
2.8.1. Move to approve the comment resolution for CIDs 20045-20054 as shown in 11-16-0596r3.
And instruct editor to incorporate the changes as shown in 11-16-0596r3.
2.8.2. Moved: Peter Yee
2.8.3. Seconded: Rob Sun
2.8.4. Discussion
2.8.4.1. Against. It makes unnecessary complexity.
2.8.4.2. US government and many organizations require NIST approval AES-GCM.
2.8.5. Vote records
2.8.5.1. See Annex.
2.8.6. Result: 6/8/16
2.8.7. Motion fails.
2.9. Motion #347 (Procedural motion)
2.9.1. Move to
Approve the following comment resolution for CIDs 20045, 20046, 20047, 20048, 20049, 20050, 20051, 20052, 20053, 20054:
“REJECT-- The CRC could not reach consensus on the changes necessary to address the comments.
The following proposals were considered but have not received 75% approval,11-16/0596r3
2.9.2. Moved: Dan Harkins
2.9.3. Seconded: Paul Lambert
2.9.4. Discussion
2.9.4.1. Clarification. What is the actual outcome of this motion?
2.9.4.2. Resolution as shown in the motion statements.
2.9.5. Vote records
2.9.5.1. See Annex.
2.9.6. Result: 20/0/13
2.9.7. Motion passes.
2.10. Comment resolutions from Rob Sun 11-16/0552r1 Rob Sun
2.10.1. FT uses state 2.
2.10.2. State 5 is unnecessary. In the future, REVmd will change for merging.
2.10.3. The motion should do after another proposal.
2.11. Attendees count at 11:53 39 attendees
2.12. State Machine Changes 11-16/0691r1 Michael Montemurro
2.13. Attendees count at 12:03 39 attendees
2.14. Motion #348
2.14.1. Move to
Approve the comment resolution for CID, 20099, 20100,20152 and 20171 as shown in 11-16/0552r1.
2.14.2. Moved: Rob Sun
2.14.3. Seconded: George Calcev
2.14.4. Vote records
2.14.4.1. See Annex.
2.14.5. Result: 11/16/5
2.14.6. Motion fails.
2.15. Motion #349