STV CHAT with Bishnu Rimal ,Chief Political Adviser of PM KP Sharma Oli

Date: July 13, 2016, Sagarmatha TV,

STV CHAT with Bishnu Rimal ,Chief Political Adviser of PM KP Sharma Oli

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of] ug'{sf] cy{ s] eg] ca jftfj/0f ;'lw|b} uO;s]kl5 u8a8 x'Fb}5 eGg] cGbfh nufPsf lyof}+ .=== ha gfsfaGbL cGTo eof], To;kl5 t xfdLn] km"lt{sf ;fy k'glg{df{0fsf] sfd ug'{ k/]sf] lyof], k|d'v k|ltkIfdf g]kfnL sf+u|]; lyof] p;n] lj/f]w ug]{ Ph]08fsf] ?kdf s]xL klg kfO/x]sf] lyPg, hgtf 5fgfd'lg cfPgg\ eGg] ljifo pgLx?n] p7fpFb} lyP . xfdL Tof] ljifonfO{ Wofg lbg' k/]sf] lyof] .

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t/ h'g ( a'Fb] sfof{Gjogsf] s'/f 5, Tof] sfof{Gjosf] s'/fdf b'O{6f d]h/ kIfx? 5g\, klxnf] la:tfl/t g} x'g\, bf];|f] s] eg] åGåsfnLg ;dodf ePsf] d'2f l5gf]kmfgf] ug]{, vf; s'/f 3/hUuf, ;DklQ;Fu hf]l8Psf 5g\, To;df sf+u|]; klg hf]l8Psf 5g\, ;Qf kIf klg hf]l8Psf 5g\, To;df dfcf]jfbL klg st} g st}af6 hf]l8Psf xf]nfg\, sltko 7fpFdf t dfcf]jfbLn] ;Qfljlxg eP/ zf;g rnfPsf] lyof] . Toltv]/ ePsf n]gb]gsf s]xL ;d:ofx? 5g\, ToxL n]gb]gsf ;d:ofx? s;/L ;Daf]wg ug]{ eGg] ljifo xf] Tof] . xfd|f] a'emfOdf rflxF dfcf]jfbLsf] dfq} ;d:of lyPg Tof], Tof] ;d:of xfdL ;a}sf] ;d:of lyof], Tof] ljifonfO{ xfdLn] lnPs} lyof}+, t/ To;df pxfFx?nfO{ xtf/f] / === lyof] . Tof] ljifodf xfdL 5nkmn} ul//x]sf lyof}+, Tof] ljifonfO{ lnP/ pxfFx?n] k6s k6s cK7\of/f] kf¥of] . pxfFx?sf] t ;~rf/dfWodsf ;fyLx?nfO{ yfxf g} 5 .

gf} a'Fb]df klg xfdLn] r}gn] ;f; km]/]sf 5}gf}+ lg . ah]6 cfpg] a]nf km]l/ x'n} afFw]/ cfof], ah]6 Nofpg lbGg eGof], xfdLn] ah]6 t gLltut ?kdf hfg] xf], JolQmut?kdf afF8kmfF8 ug]{ xf]Og, of] 3/sf] n]gfb]gf s'/f t xf]Og, b]z /fi6«nfO{ cufl8 a9fpFb} nfg] s'/f xf], o;df xfdLn] o;/L atfpFb} uPsf lyof}+, To;nfO{ klg xfdLn] 6f¥of}+ .

tkfO{+x?nfO{ yfxf 5, ah]6 kf; ug]{ lbg klg pxfFx?n] To:t} u/L lgx'F vf]Hg'ef], To;kl5 klg dfcf]jfbLsf dGqLx?nfO{ k|r08hLn] cf;]Dan u/fpg'x'G5, 9f]sfdf pEofP/ o;f] gu/] leq kl:bg eGg] u/fpg'x'G5 . of] rflxF jf:tjdf k|wfgdGqLHo"nfO{ c;fWo} kL8f ePsf] ljifo lyof] .

pxfFn] eGg'x'GYof] . xfdL ;/sf/ rnfpg] eG5f}+, ;Qf k/f nufpg] eG5f}+, lbg lbg hgtf dl//x]sf 5g\, k'glg{df{0fsf] s'/f 5, Psflt/ klx/f]sf] s'/f 5, d]/f dGqLx? ;xof]u ug'{eGbf Soflag]6df k:g' cufl8 Pp6f kf6f] lnP/ l55{g\, of] ;6{df ;xL ug]{ xf] eg] dfq l55f}{+ eG5g\, o;/L t rNb}g . pxfFn] eGb} cfpg'ePsf] s'/f Tof] lyof] / pxfFn] ca n¥ofª n'?ª gu/f}+ :ki6 af6f] lncf}+, xfdLnfO{ ljZjf; 5, ;Fu} a;f}+, xfdL cufl8 a9f}+, xfdLdf ljZjf; 5}g, xfdL cfcfkm\gf] af6f] nfuf}+ . ;Qfwf/L xfdL s'g} klg kf6L{x? s;}sf] dftxtsf kf6L{ x}gf}+, xfdL ;a} cfkm" :jtGq kf6L{ xf}+, ;fOh ;fgf 7'nf xf]nfg\, tkfO{x?sf] :jtGqtfsf] hlt Kof/f] 5, d]/f] :jtGqtfsf] klg Tolt g} Kof/f] 5, ToxL 9+un] cufl8 a9f}+ eg]/ pxfFn] :ki6 ?kdf eGg'ePs} 5 . >[Înf oxL g} xf] . oxL >[Înfdf d]/f] ljrf/df d}n] w]/} cf/f]k nufpg t ldNb}g, dfcf]jfbL s]Gb|sf g]tfx?df rflxF s'g} of] jf Tof] gb]lvg] vfnsf Ph]08f 5 ls h:tf] nfU5 . ;/sf/n] v'Nnf ?kdf ug'{kg]{ sfddf t s'g} ;d:of g} lyPg h:tf] nfU5 .

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o;f] ubf{v]l/ klg dfcf]jfbL kf6L{nfO{ ePg eGbfv]l/ pxfFx?nfO{ Pdfn] kf6L{ ef/L g} eof] xf]nf . To;sf/v0fn] ubf{ gofF ef/L vf]Hg'eof] ls h:tf] dnfO{ nfU5 .

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