Simon Holdsworth: Chat Room s2

Minutes of the OASIS SCA Bindings TC Meeting 18th April 2013

Attendance:

IBM / David Booz / Voting Member
Oracle / Martin Chapman / Voting Member
IBM / Mike Edwards / Voting Member
IBM / Simon Holdsworth / Chair
TIBCO Software Inc. / Eric Johnson / Voting Member
Oracle / Anish Karmarkar / Voting Member
Oracle / Ashok Malhotra / Voting Member
Individual / Jim Marino / Voting Member

Resolutions:

The TC approves the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Ballot to approve the SCA Web Service Binding Specification Version 1.1 contained in http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html as a Committee Specification, in addition the TC approves the Chair requesting that TC Administration update the following Designated Cross-References as defined by https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#crossRefs during publication of the Committee Specification:

- Current reference to be updated: line 31: [SCA-Assembly] OASIS Committee Specification Draft 07, Service Component Architecture Assembly Model Specification Version 1.1, January 2011 http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-csd07.pdf

Expected approval status and date: Committee Specification, May 2013

- Current reference to be updated: line 35: [SCA-Policy] OASIS Committee Draft 04, SCA Policy Framework Specification Version 1.1, September 2010 http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-policy/sca-policy-1.1-spec-cd04.pdf

Expected approval status and date: Committee Specification, May 2013

- Current reference to be updated: line 38: [SCA-JCAA] OASIS Committee Specification Draft 05, Service Component Architecture SCA-J Common Annotations and APIs Specification Version 1.1, November 2010 http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-j/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-csd05.pdf

Expected approval status and date: Committee Specification, May 2013

- Current reference to be updated: line 91: [WS-Testcases] OASIS Committee Draft 01, "TestCases for the SCA Web Service Binding Specification Version 1.1", July 2010, http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.pdf

Expected approval status and date: Replace with Latest version link.

The TC acknowledges that approval and publication of the specification may be delayed by the Designated Cross-Reference Changes.

The TC asserts that there is no material change to the specification from the last PR draft.

(m: Mike Edwards, s: David Booz, no objections)

Completed Action Items:

20130404-1: Simon Holdsworth to inform the Assembly TC that there are now 2 conforming impls of the WS binding spec

20130404-2: Simon Holdsworth to follow up with tc-admin on what to do with document references before we can move to CS status

Open action items:

20130321-1: Mike Edwards to investigate and fix the artifact that is in error here Test Module: BWS_200x

Open issue ownership (no current proposed resolution in red):

None open, 4 deferred (60, 170, 171, 172)

Current Proposed Schedule for Bindings Specifications:

Awaiting one implementation of JMS binding spec for exit criteria

No current outlook: JCA TA and test cases; HTTP binding spec, TA and test cases; Assembly v1.2 impacts

Raw Chat room transcript (actions and resolutions marked in blue):

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Simon runs through the agenda

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): No comments on the agenda

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Topic: Approval of the minutes from 4 April

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/48790/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202013-04-04.doc

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Minutes approved w/o objections

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Topic: Action Items

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): 20130321-1: Mike Edwards to investigate and fix the artifact that is in error here Test Module: BWS_200x - PENDING

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): 20130404-1: Simon Holdsworth to inform the Assembly TC that there are now 2 conforming impls of the WS binding spec - DONE

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): 20130404-2: Simon Holdsworth to follow up with tc-admin on what to do with document references before we can move to CS status - DONE

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Topic: Progression to CS

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Simon: We need a super-majority ballot

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Simon explains process -- updating the references

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Anish: We should not refer to "latest" in cross-references

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): ... they can change from under you and not clear what you do then

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): ... ok for non-normative references

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): ... recommend we use specific refereneces and not "latest"

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): ... coordination is not so bad

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Mike Edwards: The specs will not change. So, referencing specific versions is fine.

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): ... references to the Test Cases should be "latest" as it may change

Simon Holdsworth: The alternative text to put in the DCR would be for each normative reference: "Expected approval status and date: Committee Specification, <month> 2013"

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Anish: Not a great deal of extra coordination required if we use specific references

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): ... coordination required for TC Admin

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Anish: TC Admin should not recommend "latest" references

Simon Holdsworth: Here is the motion draft:

Simon Holdsworth: [someone] moves that the TC approves the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Ballot to approve the SCA Web Service Binding Specification Version 1.1 contained in http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html as a Committee Specification, in addition the TC approves the Chair requesting that TC Administration update the following Designated Cross-References as defined by https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#crossRefs during publication of the Committee Specification:

Expected approval status and date: Committee Specification, May 2013

Expected approval status and date: Replace with Latest version link.

The TC acknowledges that approval and publication of the specification may be delayed by the Designated Cross-Reference Changes.

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Mike Edwards: Questions if that's the current reference?

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Anish: You may want to point out to TC Admin that there have been no material change in the specs

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Eric: Questions acknowledgement

Anish Karmarkar: this sounds like cya for tc admin

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Simon: That's part of the process

Anish Karmarkar: how about "TC agrees that there is no material change to the specification from the last PR draft"

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): How about "The TC asserts ..."

Anish Karmarkar: fine with me

MartinC : if the underlying spec being referenced has non-material changes then by definitions changing the reference to the new one is non-material

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Mike Edwards: Moves that the chair request the TC Admin to ...

Anish Karmarkar: @martin, agreed

Anish Karmarkar: ... we wanted to add that in the motion so TC Admin doesn't have to ask that question

Simon Holdsworth: Mike Edwards moves that the TC approves the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Ballot to approve the SCA Web Service Binding Specification Version 1.1 contained in http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html as a Committee Specification, in addition the TC approves the Chair requesting that TC Administration update the following Designated Cross-References as defined by https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#crossRefs during publication of the Committee Specification:

Expected approval status and date: Committee Specification, May 2013

Expected approval status and date: Replace with Latest version link.

The TC acknowledges that approval and publication of the specification may be delayed by the Designated Cross-Reference Changes.

The TC asserts that there is no material change to the specification from the last PR draft

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Dave Booz Seconds

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): No discussion on the motion

Mike Edwards (UK): This could be the first motion that takes the whole of a meeting to read out...

MartinC : the last link has "latest"

MartinC : ws-testcases :replace with latest link

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Approved by unanimous consent

Anish Karmarkar: martin, the last link is a non-normative link to test cases

Anish Karmarkar: ... so that bug fixes can be included

MartinC : ok

Anish Karmarkar: OTOH, the test cases doc has a non-latest ref to the spec

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Simon: I will proceed to request the ballot ...

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Simon: Next meeting after ballot concludes

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): May 23 suggested as date for next meeting

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): AOB

Ashok Malhotra (Oracle): Straggler Roll: Anish, Martin