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Point 2 of the agenda
Draft Agenda
Minutes of the “Agricultural Accounts and Prices” Working group
30 November – 1 December 2005
Eurostat – Unit E3
Working Group "Environmental Accounts"
Joint Eurostat/EFTA group
Meeting of 10 and 11 May 2006
BECHBuilding – Room AMPERE
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Draft minutesASA/AAP/082

1.Adoption of the agenda

The draft agenda of the meeting was adopted without changes.

2.Adoption of the minutes of the meeting held on 26th October 2005

The minutes of the meeting wereadopted with one change concerning the reservations of DE to keep the 2008 deadline for therebasing 2005=100.

Minutes of the meeting held on 2930thNovember 2004

The minutes of the meeting was adopted without changes.

3.Economic Accounts for Agriculture (EAA)
3.1.Data availability and transmission

The MS concerned provided information on their intentions to send missing data (domains covered: EAA at current prices, ALI, unit values). CY announced provision of missing EAA/ALI data by the end of December 2005. EL was unfortunately not present at the meeting.

Concerning unit values, technical questions were solved bilaterally with BE and NO. The other countries gave information on the dates when they intended to send missing UV data:

CY: end of January 2006, ES: data for 2004 by the end of 2005, IE was unfortunately not present at the meeting, LV: data had been already sent, MT: was unable to give information, NL: end of December 2005, SI: data on cereals for 1995-2003 by the end of March 2006, SK: data had been already sent before the meeting.

The tables on data availability would in future include also NO and CH.

Eurostat confirmed that STADIUM is the preferred tool for the transmission of data at the moment. Replacement of STADIUM by E-Collect is foreseen in the future.

3.2.EAA: first estimates 2005

Six Member States had not provided such estimates by the first day of the meeting: DE, EL, IE, CY, MT, SI. CY proposed to send the data before the end of the year. SI proposed to send it by the end of the next week (9th Dec).

Eurostat reminded (insisted) that the deadline was 30 November and that there was no further deadline.This exercise wasone of the most important in agricultural accounts and MS had therefore to make provisions to deal with the problems mentioned. A further delay of more than one weekwould make it very difficult for Eurostat to publish the first agricultural income estimates 2005 before the end of the year.

DG AGRI supported the Eurostat position and underlined that their DG needed such information urgently.

The available first income estimates for 2005 were presented on the second day of the meeting. It was underlined that the data were under embargo until15 December 2005 at 11.00 a.m.

3.3.Methodological issues

3.3.1.Allocation of financial intermediation services indirectly measured (FISIM)

From September 2006 onward FISIM will be implemented in the EAA. EAA data adjusted by FISIM should be provided at least from 1995 onwards (in line with the National Accounts).

There was a clear majority of the Member States in favour of reflecting FISIM also in income indicators.

DG AGRI welcomed the proposals and the agreement. Coherencebetween EAA and NA is regarded as important as data needs arising in the field of rural development made it necessary to consult the NA.

Eurostat took note of the concerns expressed by a few Member States in relation with some practical problems, especially in getting provisional FISIM data at the time of the first EAA forecasts.Eurostat strongly proposed the use of preliminary NA data also for the first EAA forecast. The MS were asked to provide, by mid-December 2005, a brief summary of practical problems they encountered and the potential solutions to these. Before the end January 2006, Eurostat would summarise this and provide feedback to the countries.

Eurostat in turn will draft an amendment toEAA Regulation concerning FISIM. This draft would be sent to the Working Group members and presented to CPSA at its first meeting in 2006.

3.3.2.Calculation of Gross Fixed Capital Formation (GFCF) in livestock

MS, in particularly those who have negative values for their GFCF in livestock, were asked to provide, by the end of February 2006, detailed numerical and textual information (in the form of updated inventories) about the way they derived these figures.Eurostat would then analyse this information (Spring 2006), clarify questions / problems bilaterally and with national accountants, in order to come up with a summary analysis and conclusions before summer 2006.

Particular attention should be given to the various options for dealing with the non-calculation consumption of fixed capital in livestock.The objective would be to establish detailed recommendations for a common methodology for the calculation of GFCF in livestock so that problems of comparability of agricultural income measures across Member States would be minimized.

DE presented an overview of the different options for recording GFCF in the National Accounts.

3.3.3.Implementation of NACE Rev. 2

Eurostat gave Information on the current status of the draft NACE Regulation. It was explained that a number of questions were still discussed internally in the Commission (maintenance of land, production of wine and olive oil).

A number of olive and/or wine producing Member States expressed their concern about the recording of these productions outside agriculture (FR, IT, PT). Eurostat asked the main olive oil and wine producing Member States to provide information on gross value added shares of the production of raw agricultural and the processed products by forms of production units by the middle of the week after the meeting (7th December).

There was a clear consensus that the implementation of the new NACE, in the EAA, should take place in parallel with the NA, i.e. in 2011.

Several Member States expressed their preference for the EAA, coming as close as possible to the NA (and thus to NACE), except regarding the wine and the olive oil if these products had to be regarded as non agricultural products by the NACE Rev.2.

At the request of DK, Eurostat gave brief information about the coordination with the work on the revision of farm typology.

3.3.4.Provision of EAA data at constant prices

DK, CY, IT would switch to n-1 prices in time for the transmission of September 2006. DE would also be able to switch to n-1, but requested the assistance of Eurostat. LT confirmed that n-1 data had in the meantime been sent. MT could not answer.

In reaction to questions concerning the dissemination of the EAA data at constant prices, Eurostat invited the Member States to check their data in the free dissemination database and to give feedback.

3.4.Quality issues

3.4.1.EAA inventories and ALI data checks for the new Member States (PHARE 2003)

Eurostat reported on the situation and the results of the project.UK welcomed the exercise and suggested to have inventories made available also to other countries (as was done with the EAA inventories of the "old" MS).Eurostat replied that it was intended to upload these inventories also to CIRCA (oncethe Member Statesconcerned agreed).

3.4.2.Validation of EAA data

Eurostat presented the work carried out and the future plans about the validation of EAA data, especially the first estimate for 2004.

FR asked whether AgrIS was still used. Eurostat confirmed that yes, it was an important tool in this context.BE said that they had received error reports (in a form of an EXCEL table) where there were apparently mistakes in the pre-validation routine. The raised problems were discussed bilaterally during the meeting.UK suggested to include comparisons across Member States in the exercise. They also suggested resuming work on the Total-Factor-Productivity-Indicators as this work allowed to draw interesting conclusions and to check on the plausibility of the data.

4.Environmental and forestry accounts

4.1.Data availability

Availability of EAF data was presented.

4.2.Environmental accounts and forestry accounts

Member States were informed about the integration of EAF into IEEAF.Few delegates expressed their concerns or mentioned that they were not experts in this field but would ask the opinion of the responsible persons after the meeting. Eurostat will prepare a detailed plan for the integration by February 2006. The proposal will also be presented to the Working Group on Forestry statistics in February 2006. Experts of IEEAF will also be contacted in January 2006.

5.Any other business

Member states which had not provided with API forecast for 2005 yet were asked to send it as soon as possible.

Eurostat gave brief information about the current status of the feasibility study on IAHS statistics and the setting up of a Task Force on agricultural land prices and rents.

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LISTE DES PARTICIPANTS

LIST OF PARTICIPANTS

TEILNEHMERLISTE

Agricultural Accounts and Prices

30thNovember and 1st December 2005

DELEGATION / NAME / ADDRESS
BELGIUM / Mr Verhaegen Etienne / Institut National de Statistique
E877 - Statistiques agricoles
Rue de Louvain, 44
Bureau 3610
B-1000 BRUXELLES
Phone: +32 2 548 6631
Fax: +32 2 548 6670
E-mail:
BELGIUM / Ms Doulou-Ouamba Marlène / Institut National de Statistique
E877 - Statistiques agricoles
Rue de Louvain, 44
Bureau 3610
B-1000 BRUXELLES
Phone:
Fax: +32 2 548 6670
E-mail:
CZECH REPUBLIC / Mr Sulc Jiri / Czech Statistical Office
Agricultural, Construction and Services Prices Statistics Section
Na padesatem 81
CZ-100 82 PRAGUE 10
Phone: +420 274 052 148
Fax: +420 274 052 414
E-mail:
CZECH REPUBLIC / Ms Zikova Lea / Czech Statistical Office
Agricultural Statistics Section
Na padesatem 81
CZ-100 82 PRAGUE 10
Phone: +420 274 052 088
Fax: +420 274 052 414
E-mail:
DENMARK / Mr Olsen Ole / Danmarks Statistik
Sejrogade 11
DK-2100 KØBENHAVN Ø
Phone: +45 391 73 917
Fax: +45 391 73 999
E-mail:
GERMANY / Ms. Hermening Christine / Bundesministerium für Ernährung, Landwirtschaft und Verbraucherschutz (BMELV)
Federal Ministry of Consumer Protection, Food and Agriculture
Dept. 426
Rochusstr. 1
D-53123 BONN
Phone: +49-228 529 4484
Fax +49 228 529 3364
E-mail:
GERMANY / Ms Frankford Ligia / Statistisches Bundesamt
Gruppe IIIA
Entstehung und Verwendung des Inlandproducts
Gustav-Stresemann-Ring 11
D-65189 WIESBADEN
Phone: +49 611 752
Fax: +49 611 753 950
E-mail:
GERMANY / Mr Thalheimer Frank / Statistisches Landesamt Baden Württemberg
Ref. 31
Böblinger Stra. 68
D-70199 STUTTGART
Phone: +49 711 641 2650
Fax: +49 711 641 2479
E-mail:
ESTONIA / Ms Sokman Eveli / Statistical Office of Estonia
Producer Price Statistics Section
Endla 15
EE-15174 TALLINN
Phone: +372-6259 241
fax: +372-6259 370
E-mail:
ESTONIA / Mr Himma Ivar / Statistical Office of Estonia
Endla 15
EE-15174 TALLINN
Phone: +372-62 59 164
fax: +372-62 59 370
E-mail:
ESTONIA / Ms Maidre Kristel / Ministry of Agriculture of Estonia
Bureau of Agricultural Income Policy
39/41 Lai Street
EE-15056 TALLINN
Phone: +372 625 6119
Fax +372 625 6200
E-mail:
SPAIN / Mr Rodríguez de la Cuetara Manuel / Ministerio de Agricultura, Pesca y Alimentacion
Paseo Infanta Isabel 1
E-28014 MADRID
Phone: +34 91 347 5440
Fax: +34 91 347 4514
E-mail:
FRANCE / Ms Guihard Véronique / INSEE
Division Agriculture
Section comptes et conjoncture agricoles - Timbre E343
18 boulevard Adolphe Pinard
F-75675 PARIS Cedex 14
Phone: +33 1 41 17 50 54
Fax: +33 1 41 17 39 49
E-mail:
FRANCE / Mr De Lapasse Benoît / Ministère de l'agriculture et de la pêche
SCEES
Bureau Comptes et Revenus
251, rue de Vaugirard
75732 Paris cedex 15
Phone: +33 1 49 55 85 22
Fax: +33 1 49 55 85 00
E-mail:
ITALY / Mr Ciaccia domenico / ISTAT
Direzione Contab. Nazionale
Via Depretis,74B
I-000142 ROMA
Phone: +39 06 46733138
Fax: +39 06 46733157
E-mail:
IRELAND / Excused
CYPRUS / Ms Pelagia Sophia / Statistical Service of Cyprus
Michalakis Karaolis Street
CY-1444 NICOSIA
Phone: +357 22602204
Fax: +357 22661313
E-mail:
LATVIA / Mrs RAUBENA Anita / Central Statistical Bureau of Latvia
Agricultural and Environment Statistics Department
Agricultural Statistics Section
Lacplesa Street 1
LV-1301 RIGA
Phone: +371 736 6977
Fax: +371 783 0137
E-mail:
LATVIA / Mr Veveris Armands / Latvian State Institute of Agrarian Economics
14, Struktoru Street
LV- 1039 RIGA
Phone: +371 755 3370
Fax: +371 754 1789
E-mail:
LATVIA / Ms Krievina Agnese / Latvian State Institute of Agrarian Economics
14, Struktoru Street
LV- 1039 RIGA
Phone: +371 755 3370
Fax: +371 754 1789
E-mail:
LATVIA / Ms Vanaga Sanita / Economic Information Division
Common Agricultural Policy Department
Ministry of Agriculture of Latvia
Phone: +371 702 7376
Fax: +371 702
E-mail:
LITHUANIA / Ms Sapoliene Aniceta / Statistics Lithuania
Agriculture and Environment Statistics Division
29 Gedimino pr.
LT-01500 VILNIUS
Phone: +370 52364 923
Fax: +370 52364 971
E-mail:
LITHUANIA / Ms Sapolaite Vaida / Lithuania Institute of Agrarian Economics
18 Kudirkos St
LT-01500 VILNIUS
Phone: +370 5 2622057
Fax: +370 5 2364 971
E-mail:
LUXEMBOURG / Mr Hoffmann Jean-Paul / Service d’Economie Rurale
15, rue de Hollerich
L-1741 LUXEMBOURG
Phone: +352 478 2551
Fax: +352 491 619
E-mail:
LUXEMBOURG / Mr Steichen Frank / Service d’Economie Rurale
15, rue de Hollerich
L-1741 LUXEMBOURG
Phone: +352 478 2553
Fax: +352 491 619
E-mail:
LUXEMBOURG / Mr Haupert Jean / STATEC
13 rue Erasme - B.P. 304
L-2013 LUXEMBOURG
Phone: +352 478-4238
Fax: +352 464 289
E-mail:
HUNGARY / Mr Peto Eva / Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture
Kossuth Lajos tér 11.
H-1055 BUDAPEST
Phone: +36 301 5965
Fax: +36 301 5965
E-mail:
HUNGARY / Mr Valkó Gábor / Hungarian Central Statistical Office
Agricultural and Environmental Statistics Department
Keleti Karoly utca, 5-7
H-1024 BUDAPEST
Phone: +36 1 345 6554
Fax: +36 1 345 6680
E-mail:
MALTA / Fenech Gonzi Paul / Ministry for Rural Affairs and the Environment
Civil Abattoir
Marsa
Malta
Phone: 00356 9982 1104
Fax: 00356 2132 3449
E-mail:
NETHERLANDS / Mr Koole Boudewijn / Landbouw-Economisch Instituut – Wageningen UR
Burgemeester Patijnlaan 19
P.O. Box 29703
NL-2502 LS DEN HAAG
Phone: +31 70 335 8186
Fax: +31 70 361 8196
E-mail:
NETHERLANDS / Mr Van der Wal Ron / CBS, Nationale rekeningen
Statistics Netherlands, National accounts
Phone: +31 70 337 4772
Fax:
E-mail:
NORWAY / Mr Rustad Lars Johan / Norwegian Agricultural Economics Research Institute
Box 8024 Dep.
N-0030 Oslo
Phone: +47 22 36 72 63
Fax: +47 22 36 72 99
E-mail: lars-johan@
NORWAY / Mr Erdal Lasse / Norwegian Agricultural Authority
Box 8140 Dep.
N-0033 Oslo
Phone: +47 24 13 10 56
Fax: +47 24 13 10 05
E-mail:
AUSTRIA / DI Schmidt Beate / Statistik Austria
Direktion Raumwirtschaft
Land- und Forstwirtschaft
Guglgasse 13
1110 WIEN
Phone: +43 71128-7119
Fax: +43 1 493 43 00
E-Mail:
AUSTRIA / Ms Mayer Christina / Statistik Austria
Direktion Raumwirtschaft
Land- und Forstwirtschaft
Guglgasse 13
1110 WIEN
Phone: +43 711 28-7108
Fax: +43 493 43 00
E-mail:
POLAND / Ms Niec Malgorzata / Central Statistical Office
Al. Niedpodleglosci 208
PL-00925 WARSZAWA
Phone:
Fax +48 22 608 38 65
E-mail:
POLAND / Ms Zytecka-KarolakMarzena / Central Statistical Office
Al. Niedpodleglosci 208
PL-00925 WARSZAWA
Phone: +48 22 608 35 53
Fax +48 22 608 38 65
E-mail:
PORTUGAL / Mrs Ramos Cristina / Instituto Nacional de Estatistica
5, Av. Antonio José de Almeida
P-1078 LISBOA
Phone: +351 21 842
Fax: +351 21 842
E-mail:
SLOVENIA / Ms Zaucer Irena / Statistical Office of the Republic of Slovenia
Vožarski pot 12
SI-1000 LJUBLJANA
Phone: +386 1 2340 784
Fax: +386 1 2415 344
E-mail:
SLOVAKIA / Ms DrabVladimir / Statistical Office of the SlovakRepublic
Department of Agricultural and Environment Statistics
Business Statistics Section
Mileticova 3
SK-82467 BRATISLAVA
Phone: 00 421 2 502 36 783
Fax: 00 421 2 502 36 500
E-mail:
SLOVAKIA / Mr GogoraMario / Ministry of Agriculture of the SlovakRepublic
Dobrovicova 12
SK-812 66 BRATISLAVA
Phone: 00 421 2 592 66 221
Fax: 00 421 2 592 66 223
E-mail:
SLOVAKIA / Mr Tiža Daniel / Ministry of Agriculture of the SlovakRepublic
Section of Foreign Affairs
Rural Development Department
Dobrovicova 12
SK-812 66 BRATISLAVA
Phone: 00 421 2 59266431
Fax: 00 421 2 592 66 223
E-mail:
SLOVAKIA / Mr Varoscak Jan / Research Institute of Agricultural and Food Economics
SK-824 80 BRATISLAVA
Phone: +421 2 58 24 250
Fax: +421 2 53 416 408
E-mail:
SUOMI/FINLAND / Mr Kankaanpää Martti / Statistics Finland
Economic Statistics
P.O. Box 5 C
FIN-00022 STATISTICS FINLAND
Phone: +358 9 1734 3335
Fax:+ 358 9 1734 2291
E-mail:
SWEDEN / Mr Persson Daniel / Swedish Board of Agriculture
S-551 82 JÖNKÖPING
Phone: +46 3615 5039
Fax: +46 3634 0196
E-mail:
SWITZERLAND / Mr Murbach Franz / Office Fédéral de la Statistique
Espace de l’Europe 10
CH-2010 NEUCHATEL
Phone: +41 32 713 65 97
Fax: +41 32 713 64 49
E-mail:
SWITZERLAND / Mr Giuliani Silvano / Secrétariat de l'Union suisse des paysans
Laurstrasse 10
CH-5200BRUGG AG
Phone: +41 56 462 53 28
Fax: +41 56 441 53 48
E-mail:
UNITED KINGDOM / Mr Platt Stuart / Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA)
FCA Div 4 Survey, Statistics & Prices
Foss House, Kings Pool (Room 232)
1-2 Peasholme Green
UK-YORKYO1 7PX
Phone: +44 1904 455
Fax: +44 1904 455
E-mail:
BULGARIA / Mrs. Yordanova Mariya / National Statistics Institute of Bulgaria
Agricultural Statistics Division
2, P. Volov Str.
BG-1038 SOFIA
Phone: + 359 2 9857 546
Fax: +359 2 9857 488
E-mail:
ROMANIA / Ms Dumitrache Melania / National Institute of Statistics
Direction of Agricult. & Environment Stats.
16, Libertàtii Ave.
RO - 70542 BUCHAREST (Sector 5)
Phone: +40 2 1318 1872
Fax:
E-mail:
ROMANIA / Ms Zorici Violeta / National Institute of Statistics
Direction of Agricult. & Environment Stats.
16, Libertàtii Ave.
RO - 70542 BUCHAREST (Sector 5)
Phone: 040213358175
Fax:
E-mail:
TURKEY / Excused
CROATIA / Ms Zanic Mirjana / Central Bureau of Statistics of the Republic of Croatia
Branimirova 19-21
HR-10 002 ZAGREB
Phone: +385 1 4893 589
Fax: +385 1 4893 588
E-mail:
FYROM /MACEDONIA / Ms Temelkovska Anita / Statistical Office of FYR of Macedónia
National Accounts Sector
Dame Gruev 4
Post box 506
SKOPJE - Republic of Macedonia
Tel: +389 2 3295 882
Fax: +389 2 3111 336
E-mail:
A | S | A Institut für Sektoranalyse und Politikberatung GmbH / Ms Pop Iulia / Marie-Curie-Straße 5
D-53359 Rheinbach
Tel.: +49 (0) 22 26 87 28 55
Fax.: +49 (0) 22 26 87 28 52
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / CHARLIER Hubert / DG ESTAT, Unit E-1 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / EIDMANN Ulrich / DG ESTAT, Unit E-1 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / SZABO Peter / DG ESTAT, Unit E-1 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / LINARES Dolores / DG ESTAT, Unit E-1 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / WEBER Gerald / DG ESTAT, Unit E-1 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / ERNENS Marcel / DG ESTAT, Unit E-2- Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / WEILER Francis / DG ESTAT, Unit E-2 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / CARDOSO Fausto / DG ESTAT, Unit E-2 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / MILELLA Arcangelo / DG ESTAT, Unit E-2 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG ESTAT / AKRITIDIS Leonidas / DG ESTAT, Unit C-2 - Luxembourg
E-mail:
DG AGRI / MÜNCH Wolfgang / DG AGRI, Unit G-2 - Bruxelles
E-mail:

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