October 2014 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/1410r0
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2014-10-31
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / email
Li Chia Choo / Institute for Infocomm Research / 1 Fusionopolis Way,
#21-01 Connexis (South Tower),
Singapore 138632 / +65 6408 2591 /
October 28th, 2014 (Tuesday) PM 8:00 – 10:00, ET
Notes – Tuesday, October 28th 2014;
1. Yongho Seok (representing NEWRACOM) is the chair of TGah and was running this session. Chair called the meeting to order at 8:00 PM, ET.
2. Chair reviewed the proposed agenda of the teleconference, which was circulated through the TGah email reflector. The agenda contained
2.1. — Proposed agenda —
2.2. - Call for secretary
2.3. - IPR and other relevant IEEE policies
2.4. - Attendance Reminder (send an email to and/or )
2.5. - Review the LB205 comment spreadsheet (11-14/1372r0)
2.6. - Call for volunteer on the LB205 comment resolution
2.7. - Call for submissions on San Antonio F2F meeting
2.8. Chair went through the agenda.
2.8.1. There were no comments or additions to the agenda.
3. Call for Secretary
3.1. Li Chia volunteered to be the secretary for this session as Zander was unavailable.
4. Administrative items
4.1. Chair reviewed the administrative items and presented the links for accessing the related documents.
4.2. Chair reviewed the patent policy and meeting guideline.
4.3. Chair presented the Call for Potentially Essential Patents slide. Chair asked: “Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard?” Chair asked: “Does anybody want to speak up now?” None were heard.
4.4. Chair reviewed other guide lines of the IEEE WG meetings.
5. Attendance Reminder
5.1. Chair reminded members who wanted their attendance recorded to send an email to and/or .
6. Review the LB205 comment spreadsheet (11-14/1372r0)
6.1. Chair noted that the LB passed with an approval rate of 89%, and there were 506 comments received, compared to 1200 the previous LB.
6.1.1. Chair: As it is only 1 week before the San Antonio F2F meeting, not sure if we can finish all comments, next recirculation ballot is for the January meeting. Chair asked if such a deadline was reasonable.
6.1.1.1. Alfred: Agree with perspective.
6.1.2. Chair noted that he received comment about operating class, which was CID 5471, and this proposed to reduce/ unify operating classes. Chair will discuss with Peter (the commenter) on this issue.
6.1.3. Chair noted that there were 179 editorial comments, would like to assign to Alfred first, can transfer later.
6.1.3.1. Alfred: That is OK. Zander: For example in 8.2.3, may contain both editorial and technical comments addressing similar issues. Is it better to let person in charge of subclause handle all comments or assign separately? If assign separately, there may be conflict with different people modifying same content. Chair: In previous LB, there were 1200 comments, now received 506. To improve quality of draft, better to assign all editorial to Editor. Volunteers can ask to transfer CIDs. Zander: For example, previously, grammar etc was handled by Editor. Other comments wanted to remove sentences, these saw 2 different resolutions. Chair: What about assigning all comments to subclause volunteers initially, then volunteers will review and also transfer some to Editor. Alfred: OK, suggest that those CIDs impact more than 1 subclause be transferred to Editor for better visibility for Editor.
6.1.3.2. Chair: After the call will send email on guideline for comments resolution for this LB 205.
7. Call for volunteers on the LB205 comment resolution
7.1. Chair: After this call, would like to call for volunteers. Volunteers please send email to Chair and database owner on the ID volunteered for. Database owners are: MAC – Yongho, PHY - Sun Bo.
7.1.1. Alfred: Please also send all emails to reflector.
7.2. Chair: Right now one volunteer is recorded for each CID. Multiple volunteers for a CID can co-ordinate with each other.
7.3. There were no questions or comments.
8. Call for submissions on San Antonio F2F
8.1. Chair showed agenda for the San Antonio F2F meeting and noted that Monday PM 1 is the 1st session, there are a total of 9 sessions, and spare sessions can be used for other discussions.
8.1.1. There were no other comments.
9. Chair would like to appreciate everyone's hard work, the LB has a very good approval rate, and we may be able to go for sponsor ballot during March meeting.
10. Chair noted that we had come to the end of our agenda.
10.1. As there were no other topics to discuss and no objections to adjourning, the call was adjourned at 8.22 pm.
11. Attendance list
Yongho Seok - NEWRACOM
Li Chia Choo - Institute for Infocomm Research (I2R)
Bo Sun - ZTE
Liwen Chu - Marvell
Mitsuru Iwaoka - Yokogawa
Stefan Aust - NEC
Kaiying Lv - ZTE
Alfred Asterjadhi - Qualcomm
Jae Sung Lee - ETRI
Upkar Dhaliwal - Future Wireless Technologies
Zander Lei - Institute for Infocomm Research (I2R)
Minutes page 1 Li Chia Choo (I2R, Singapore)