September 2013doc.: IEEE 802.11-13/1011r1
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2013-09-16
Author(s):
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Stephen McCann / BlackBerryLtd / 200 Bath Road, Slough, Berkshire, SL1 3XE, UK / +44 1753 667099 /
IEEE 802.11 Interim Meeting – Session #141
Zhongshan Hotel, Nanjing, China
September16th– 20th,2013
IEEE 802 Wireless Opening Plenary, Monday, 16thSeptember 2013
Monday, 16 September 2013
10:31802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.19, 802.21, 802.22, and 802.24 Chairs called the joint meeting to order. IEEE 802.15 attendance is included as Annex A.
General announcements:
·No photography, no audio recording
·Social – will be in ZiJing Hall
·Straw Poll of new attendees: 6
10:43IEEE patent policy
802.15 WG chair read the IEEE-SA instructions and displayed the four slides explaining patent policy and informed the attendees that additional information could be found on the PatCom web site.
802.15 WG chair read IEEE anti-trust policy.
10:47Financial report by Jon Rosdahl (CSR Technologies Inc) docs 11-13-1063-00, 15-13-0526-00
Net Worth
May 1, 2013 - $569,314.79
·IEEE account: $385,728.64 +76.93+88.47 +82.47 = $385,976.51
·Face-to-Face: $64,848.90 – 14,223.07+57150-25,537.56+101,100 = $183,338.28
June 30, 2013 – $386,061.74
·IEEE account: $385,976.51 + 85.23 = $386,061.74
·Face-to-Face: $183,338.28 + $71,400.00 - $61,737.97 = $193,000.31 (as of May 29)
Sept 1, 2013 – $409,424.40
·IEEE account: $386,061.74 +85.67-$21,515.00+88.07+83.64 = $364,804.12
·Face-to-Face: $193,000.31 -$1,982.86 - $39.00 = $44,620.25
Nanjing, China – Sept 2013
•Registration Income: $168,625
− Registrations279 (+34 Students)
− Meeting Expense Estimate $173,692
− Estimated Loss($ 5,067)
•Expense Estimates
− Electronic Facilities$ 7,700
− Networking & Shipping$62,300
− Special Services on site$22,655
− On site setup$ 7,000
− Staffing on site$ 18,100
− Disbursements$ 4,500
− Accounting and Legal$ 19,045
− Management$ 29,609
− Delegate Materials$ 2,783
•Estimated Sponsor Contribution: $116,000
− Meeting facilities$32,000
−AV$45,000
− Special Event (social)$39,000
10:52Wireless and IMAT announcements by Rick Alfvin (15-13-027-04)
·Secure SSID: VeriLAN-secure (WPA2 PSK: ieeeieee)
10:57Review future sessions
·November 10-15, 2013, Hyatt Regency Reunion, Dallas, TX, USA, 802 Plenary Session
·January 19-24, 2014, Hyatt Century Plaza, Los Angeles, CA, USA, 802 Wireless Interim Session*
·March 16-21, 2014, China World Hotel, Beijing PRC, 802 Plenary Session. (pending)
·May 11-16, 2014, Hilton Waikoloa Village, Big Island, HI, USA, 802 Wireless Interim Session*
·July 13-18, 2014, Grand Hyatt Manchester, San Diego, CA, USA, 802 Plenary Session.
·September 14-19, 2014, TBD (Hilton in Athens?), 802 Wireless Interim Session*
·November 2-7, 2014, Grand Hyatt San Antonio, San Antonio, TX, USA, 802 Plenary Session.
·January 19 - 25, 2015, Hyatt Regency, Atlanta, Georgia, USA, 802 Wireless Interim
11:02Working Group Updates
·802.11 by B Kraemer (Marvell): 334 voters, 36 potential voters
TGREVmc - Revision
TGac - VHT <6GHz – in Sponsor Ballot
TGaf- TVWS - in Letter Ballot
TGah- Sub 1GHz
TGai – Fast Initial Link Setup (FILS)
TGaj – China 45& 60 GHz bands (CMMW)
TGak – General Link, i.e. Bridging w/802.1(GLK)
TGaq – Pre-Association Discovery (PAD)
Standing Committee
WNG - WIRELESS NEXT GENERATION
ARCHITECTURE
JTC1
REGULATORY
Study Group
High efficiency Wireless LAN (HEW)
802.15 by B Heile (132 voters, 20 nearly voters)
TG4m: TVWS (in Sponsor, ~300 comments)
TG4n: CMB (draft development)
TG4p: RCC (in Sponsor, ~300 comments)
TG4q: ULP (Ultra Low Power amendment) - drafting TRD
TG8: PAC (Peer Aware Communications) requesting proposals
TG9: KMP (Key Management Protocol) draft development
TG10-L2R: Layer 2 Routing (just started)
SG-SRU - Spectrum Resource Utilization
SG-100G – 100 Gb/s THz
IG – 15.7 LED enhancements
IG - Dependability
802.18 by Michael Lynch
·7 items concerning European regulatory matters
802.19 Filin
·TG1 TV whitespace coexistence finishing comment resolution
802.21 Subir Das (21-13-0161)
·TG21c – single radio handover – Sponsor ballot
·TG21d –group management – resolving WG ballot comments
·TG21m – revision project
·TG21.1 -
802.22 Pyo
·TGa MIBS
·TGb Enhanced Broadband Services and Monitoring Applications
·802.22.1 rev – advanced beaconing
802.24 Gilb
·White Paper
11:23Joint meeting adjourned
IEEE 802.11Opening Plenary, Monday 16thSeptember 2013
The chair Bruce Kraemer(Marvell) opened the meeting at 11:31China StandardTime (CST). The other officers are:
1st Vice-chair (VC1):Jon RosdahlCSR Technologies Inc
2ndVice-chair(VC2):Adrian StephensIntel
Secretary:Stephen McCannBlackBerry Ltd
There are 334 voting members of IEEE 802.11
There were 153 people in the room.
- Approve/modify joint opening agenda(11-13-0931r2)
1.1.Chair: I’ve re-arranged some of the meeting slots from the version posted 30 days ago.
1.2.So are there any more modifications required at this moment?
1.3.TGaq chair: I would like to request an extra slot on Tuesday PM1.
1.4.Chair: This is accepted, but is subject to room availability.
1.5.JTC1 chair: I would like an extra JTC1 slot please on Wednesday PM2.
1.6.Chair: Ok, but again this is subject to room availability. The agenda r3 will be uploaded shortly.
1.7.No objection to the approval of the r3 agenda.
- July 2013Minutes
2.1.Review and approve joint minutes from the Geneva, July 2013 meeting.
2.2.Any objection to approving the July 2013 minutes 11-13-0750r1 by unanimous consent
2.3.Moved: Stephen McCann, 2nd: Jon Rosdahl
2.4.Following neither discussion nor dissent these minutes were approved by unanimous consent.
- Notices
3.1.No photographs at this meeting and please turn your mobiles to vibrate.
3.2.Comment(C): Please can the secretary note that IEEE does not allow recording of any meetings.
- Attendance
4.1.Welcome to the 3new participants in this meeting.
4.2.Chair: Please note that Stephen McCann (Secretary) will be holding a newcomer’s session at 13:30 this afternoon, presenting the document 11-13-0049r3.
4.3.Chair: Please note that there is also a help desk outside in the foyer area and a networking desk.
- Treasurers report (11-13-1063r0)
5.1.VC1: This is the current budget status, which is shared with IEEE 802.15.
5.2.There will be an update on meeting attendance later in the week.
5.3.As this is a sponsored meeting, any surplus will be returned to the sponsor.
- Call for essential Patents(11-13-1107r0)
6.1.VC1: read out the currentPatCom rules and then called for essential patents information, as shown by:
6.2.
6.3.There were no issues raised regarding the call for essential patents.
6.4.Chair: There has been a request for LoAs from TGai, which I will address later.
6.5.Comment (C): There are additional patents within TGai that have now been discovered.
6.6.Chair: Please can you send me a private email identifying those patents.
6.7.VC1: So, in summary, there were essential patents identified within TGai which the chair is now pursuing. In addition, there is now a new request for additional LoAs.
6.8.VC1: read out other policies and procedures for the meeting.
6.9.Also please remember the documentation guidelines and please update all changes to those documents presented.
6.10.Please note our guidelines for all IEEE 802.11 documents including agendas and minutes.
- Status of all groups (11-13-0932r0)
7.1.Open Positions (slide #8)
7.1.1.There are three open positions for officers as shown in this slide.
7.2.Missing Officers (slide #9)
7.2.1.There are a couple of missing people this week, as shown in grey on this slide.
- Announcements (11-13-0933r0)
8.1.LoA database
8.1.1.There are 32entries for 2013 and some pending, as mentioned earlier.
8.2.Room Assignments
8.2.1.No changes at this point.
8.3.IEEE 802 items
8.3.1.Other IEEE 802 groups are meeting in other rooms and their agendas are on the mentor document server.
8.3.2.IEEE 802.16 is not meeting this week.
8.4.IEEE 802 Badges
8.4.1.Please note the different colored badges for this meeting as shown in Slide #13.
8.5.November 2013 Plenary
8.5.1.Please note that he early bird cut off for the November 2013 plenary registrations is on 4th October 2013.
8.6.IEEE-SA Staff
8.6.1.There is 1 person from IEEE-SA staff here this week Meng Zhao, so please welcome her.
8.7.Wednesday Social
8.7.1.Please note this is on Wednesday evening in the ZiJing Hall (where lunch is served) and we are expecting up to 100 local guests.
8.8.Wednesday Mid-Week Plenary Topics (slide #25)
8.8.1.There will be discussions about:
8.8.1.1.TGak proposal for “TAG stacking change” (11-13-1055r0)
8.8.1.2.IEEE 1900.1 (DySpan)
8.8.1.3.Exec Com November 2013 workshop agenda
8.9.IEEE 802.1 Architecture Document (slide #26)
8.9.1.This will be discussed during the IEEE 802.11 ARC meeting this week.
8.10.November 2013 Plenary topics (slide #27)
8.10.1.This is a list of potential topics for the November 2013 meeting. Note: Monday evening will be a 40th Anniversary celebration for Ethernet, so tutorials will be moved to the Tuesday evening.
- Voting status, attendance, meeting network & documentation (11-13-0096r5)
9.1.VC2: This document provides all the information about attendance, documentation and other news about the group.
9.2.The latest ANA database is 11-11-270r17 and was updated in July 2013.
9.3.Please use the IMAT system for attendance. If you have problems please send VC2 an email.
9.4.There are 18 normal slots this week although there are extra evening and early morning slots.
9.5.Please note that there is online calendar suitable for downloading to smart phone and tablets.
9.6.If you wish to synchronize with the local document server, please do so, rather than using the external bandwidth from the hotel meeting venue.
- Publicity & timelines
10.1.Publicity
10.1.1.None at the moment, but press releases for TGac and TGaf will be considered between this meeting and the November 2013 meeting.
10.2.Timelines
10.2.1.No recent changes, but please can all chairs send the secretary any required updates prior to this weekend.
- Group Summaries(11-13-0932r0)
11.1.Editor’s meeting
11.1.1.Tomorrow morning at 7.00am in room 311, including the ANA status, style guides and numbering situation.
11.2.Extra notes for the following groups were made:
11.3.WNG
11.3.1.1 presentation is currently scheduled for Thursday morning AM2.
- Recent Ballots(11-13-0932r0 slide #32)
12.1.Chair: There have been a few recently as shown on the slide.
- Any Other Business
13.1.Chair: TGaq can meet on Tuesday AM2 in room 201 and JTC1 Wednesday AM1 in room 308.
13.2.Chair: Is this change to the schedule acceptable to everyone?
13.3.No objections to the changes.
13.4.VC1: The lunch time has now been extended from 11:45 to 14:00.
13.5.VC1: There will be an r1 of the expense report, as someone noticed a typo. Thank you for noticing this error.
- Recess
14.1.Meeting recessed at 12:33CST.
Wednesday, 18thSeptember 2013
IEEE 802.11 Mid Week Plenary
Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell) opened the meeting at 10:30CST.
150people present.
- Approve/modify joint opening agenda(11-13-0931r4)
15.1.Chair: Are there any proposed changes?
15.2.Any objection to approving this agenda?
15.3.No objection, so moved and approved.
- Call for Essential Patents
16.1.The call for essential patents from Monday still applies
16.2.Chair: On Monday, I did indicate that some LoAs need to be sent out. I am in the process of doing this at the moment.
16.3.No statements
- CAC
17.1.Reminder about the 19.30CSTmeeting on Thursday.
- Social (ZiJing Hall)
18.1.Please note that the room for the social this evening is open at 5.30pm. This is the same room as breakfast and lunch. There will be up to 100 locals and officials from Nanjing.
18.2.Q: I see the social is on the attendance server.
18.3.VC2: It’s there to remind you where the location is. However, it has zero credit.
- Liaisons
19.1.IEEE 802.19: Co-existence (11-13-1195r0)
19.1.1.Various issues arising from the IEEE 802.19 meetings this week.
19.1.2.Q: Any idea of attendance in this group this week?
19.1.3.Chair: The registration said 6, but I’m not sure of actual numbers.
19.2.Bluetooth SIG
19.2.1.Chair: there is still no official liaison for this group.
19.3.Wi-Fi alliance (WFA)
19.3.1.Last meeting was in June 2013 in Seattle, so I have already reported progress in the Geneva July 2013.
19.3.2.Of main interest, there is a new temporary group that has been created within WFA to consider the HEW SG liaison.
19.3.3.There are about 24 projects, covering aspects of 11v, 11ac, 11ad and other 802.11 amendments
19.3.4.The next WFA meeting is in Brussels in October 2013.
19.3.5.No questions
19.4.IETF(11-13-1161r0)
19.4.1.Q: regarding slide #14, do you have any feeling for when this will occur.
19.4.2.A: Possibly in November 2013.
19.4.3.Q: There are some activities regarding IPv6.
19.4.4.A: Yes, there are some listed on slide #3. If anyone wishes to submit IEEE 802.11 input, then please contact the IETF liaison or the IEEE 802.11 chair.
19.5.3GPP(11-13-1060r1)
19.5.1.Q: I think your version number is incorrect, based on the version on the server
19.5.2.A: yes, I believe you are correct. I apologize and I’ll create a revised version.
19.5.3.Chair: Are there any specific action items for IEEE 802.11 at the moment.
19.5.4.A: No, none that I know of.
19.6.IEEE 802.24
19.6.1.Chair: this is a request for a liaison to this group. This person needs to attend the IEEE 802.24 meeting and then report back.
19.7.IEEE 802 OmniRan(11-13-1196r0)
19.7.1.Chair: are the PAR and 5C in a suitable state for consideration by IEEE 802.11?
19.7.2.A: I would wait until the end of October first.
19.7.3.Chair: did the OmniRAN teleconference go ok?
19.7.4.A: Yes.
- TGak update(11-13-1055r1)
20.1.1.C: I would just like to state that Norman Finn who is not here this week is in favor of this presentation.
20.1.2.This issue will be considered in more detail during TGak on Thursday on AM1 and there is more background material in 11-13-0952r2. Please come along if you are interested.
20.1.3.C: TGak and 802.1Qbz are working on some complicated issues and I would like to encourage everyone to seriously consider this SNAP/LLC encoding format. If you do not, then there is a possibility that TGak will break your implementation.
- IEEE 1900.1 invitation (11-13-0933r2 slide #33)
21.1.1.Chair: This is an invitation from the IEEE 1900.1 chair to invite people to participate in this group on dynamic spectrum allocation techniques. I have sent out an email on this topic already, but I just wanted to mention it here.
21.1.2.The deadline is September 30th.
21.1.3.No questions
- Nanjing venue selection
22.1.1.Chair: We have received some complaints on this venue. The venues are selected several years in advance. At the moment, we rely on Jon Rosdahl and Bob Heile to help with this.
22.1.2.We do prefer to choose new venues where industrial and education value can be obtained from local institutions. This has been the case for Nanjing.
22.1.3.However, problem issues include:
22.1.3.1.An extra hop from international airports
22.1.3.2.Rooms not having WLAN
22.1.4.Chair: Also remember that we do have a host for this meeting and without that, the registration fee would have been $400 more expensive.
22.1.5.C: I see a trend that some of the venues don’t have much to do outside of the immediate hotel/conference area. The selection process doesn’t seem very transparent to the members.
22.1.6.C: I’m very disappointed that there is very little vegetarian options in the local dining areas. I also agree that going out to the nearby area is quite difficult
22.1.7.C: I would like to consider future meetings in countries with new growth, such as Indonesia, India etc.
22.1.8.C: I think it’s this particular facility that is slightly poor, as Nanjing itself is a great city.
22.1.9.C: On the other hand, I’m quite happy about this venue.
- Room change requests(11-13-0933r2 slide #36)
23.1.There are some changes on the room schedule.
23.2.TGah: Please can we have an extra slot on either Thursday AM1 or PM1
23.3.TGaf: This group can now release the Thursday PM1 slot
23.4.VC1: So, if TGah can accept Thursday PM1 that is quite easy to arrange.
23.5.TGah: Yes, ok.
23.6.Chair: Ok, so I’ve arranged a new graphic for these changes
23.7.Chair: Is there any objection to approving these changes?
23.8.None seen.
- Officer Changes
24.1.Chair: There are no changes at this point.
- ANA changes
25.1.VC2: There are none so far.
- November 802 EC Workshop(11-13-0096r6 slide #14)
26.1.VC2: This is a chance for the IEEE 802 executive meeting to discuss various issues they don’t have time to consider during the normal IEEE 802 plenary weeks. It will be on the Saturday following the November (Dallas) meeting.
26.2.Slide #15 shows the list of topics.
26.3.Chair: in this particular case, Adrian Stephens is the chair for this workshop.
26.4.No questions
- Any Other Business
27.1.None seen
- Recess
28.1.Meeting recessed at 11:53CST.
Friday, 20thSeptember 2013
IEEE 802.11 Closing Plenary
Call to order at 08:02CSTby Bruce Kraemer (Marvell)
60 people present in the room.
- Agenda(11-13-0931r6)
29.1.Chair: There have been some changes due to the addition of motions etc. based on last night’s CAC meeting.
29.2.We should finish around 10:00.
29.3.Any objection to adopting the changes to the agenda.
29.4.None seen
- Call for Essential Patents
30.1.Call for Essential Patents and Letters of Assurance (LoA)
30.2.No questions
- Announcements(11-13-0933r3)
31.1.Chair’s minutes, reports and web pages
31.1.1.Please can you send these to the secretary
31.1.2.Please be aware of the Chair’s schedule for the chair’s committee meetings (CAC)
31.2.Letters of Assurance (LoA)
31.2.1.Chair: please remember about the LoA requirements. There are currently 32entries for 2013 and about 8 LoA requests which are currently pending.
31.3.IEEE Store(slide #42)
31.3.1.Chair: This shows the current situation of the IEEE Store and amendments assuming that the most recent drafts will pass their letter ballots.
31.3.2.Chair: There are some price changes since I presented this during the Geneva (July 2013) meeting.
31.4.ISO SC6 (slide #43)
31.4.1.Chair: These are the current drafts with ISO SC6.
31.5.Tutorials
31.5.1.Chair: there will be at least 1 tutorial at the November 2013 plenary on the Tuesday evening.
31.6.Ad hoc Venue Advisory Committee (slide #44)
31.6.1.Chair: The IEEE 802.11 officers have suggested that we form an ad-hoc group to assist with meeting preparation, once a venue has been selected.
31.6.2.Chair: So, are there any volunteers to help at the next meeting (November 2013) in Dallas?
31.6.3.There were 2 volunteers.
31.6.4.C: An extra mailing list for this would also be useful.
31.6.5.Chair: Or perhaps a blog
31.6.6.C: Or a Wiki
31.6.7.Q: Is there any official process that can be followed to actually select a venue?
31.6.8.Chair: we’ll discuss that a little later in this meeting.
- Meeting Location
32.1.Chair: Can I have a show of hand to see who is in favor of returning to the Nanjing area?
32.2.For: 20, Against: 13
32.3.Chair: Can I have a show of hand to see who is in favor of returning to this hotel?
32.4.For: 0, Against: 34
32.5.Chair: I would also like to thank the sponsor for hosting us within this venue.
- Documentation & Attendance(11-13-0960r0)
33.1.VC2: There was a maximum attendance within HEW SG, followed by TGai and TGah. Thank you to everyone who attended.
33.2.Q: Does this slide #5, also show the reciprocal attendance from IEEE 802.18 etc.
33.3.A: I’m not actually sure, as it’s the system which does the cross-credit checks.
33.4.Documentation has been fine this week.
- WG Reports
34.1.Publicity
34.1.1.No report this week.
34.2.Timelines
34.2.1.Secretary: please note the update for TGaf, TGaq and TGai, although the web page is not correct just at this moment:
34.2.2.It will be further updated over this weekend.
34.2.3.No questions
- WG Committee Reports(11-13-0933r3)
35.1.Please note the updates for the TGak editor and the TGaq secretary.