HL7 PC Co-Chair Open Meeting – [February] [13] [2017]
Current WG Co-Chairs: Stephen Chu,Laura Heermann-Langford, Jay Lyle, Michelle Miller, Emma Jones, Michael Tan; Michael Padula
Present –Michael Tan, Emma Jones, Michelle Miller, Martin Rosner, Jay Lyle, Michael Padula, Russ Leftwich, Gay Dolin, Laura Heerman-Langford, Rob Hausam, Stephen Chu
Previous minutes notes are here:
Move to Approve: Stephen ; Second: Jay
AGENDA
- Roll Call and Review Agenda –
- Agenda items and New Items to plan for
- Merge PC and Child Health WG. The name of the WG will remain as PC. HL7 working group administrative documents will be adjusted as appropriate
- Action: Vote: Move; Laura Second; Gay; 1 Abstain; 0 Against; 9 For
- New WG name suggestions (Will work on the name later):
- Adult and Child Care WG
- Patient Care and Child Health WG
- Care across the lifespan WG
- Co-chair structure
- PC had an open co-chair position that was closed. We can re-open it if one of the child health co-chairs would like to step into that position. We need to vote to open a new co-interim chair position.
- Motion (Laura moved): Mike to be an interim co-chair until the next PC election; Russ Second; 0 abstain; 0 Against; 10 For
- Need to confirm with HQ and let them know we have 3 open position instead of 2. Michelle will let Linda know
- Finalize the co-chair vote on the LHS Care Team PSS co-sponsorship
- Action: Vote: Stephen Move; Laura Second; 0 Abstain; 0 Against; 10 For
- Russ will update the PSS
- NIB assessment scales, problem of publication facilitator.
- Ballot reconciliation of the previous ballot of September.
- V3 model intendion to move to normative
- Didn’t have enough quorum to vote on the disposition. Lots of comments
- Need an e-vote for the disposition
- Need to republish the assessment scales in the may WGM. We don’t have a publishing facilitator. This is a big problem.
- Need someone with the V2 tooling to apply changes to the V3 model. Is William Goosen willing to do it? Suggestion to ask M&M or Lynn
- Action: Michael will send email to M&M
- Michael moved for E-Vote on the disposition comments; Jay second; 0 Abstain; 0 Against; 10 For
- Housekeeping:Defer to the next co-chair call].
- Update of the 3 year planning spreadsheet- Michael will email the previous version to review. Need to include Child health part of the 3 year plan. PC will send the plan to Child health folks to update that part
- Mission and Charter
- SWOT
- DMP (Wayne was planning on creating one general DMP instead of per WG)
- 'Interested party' question on the Trauma IG project.[Jay]
- Revision to an existing IG for the trauma registry data submission]. Plan is to update and ballot in May. ACS is driving this
- Okay for PC to keep an eye on it.
- Vote: Jay moved that PC is interested party; Stephen Second; 0 Abstain; 0 Against; 9 For
- FHIR STU3 – outstanding items
- Action: Update and continue gForges – need 2 affirmative comments done today.
- Clem McDonald condition – gForge 11280
- Michelle miller – NKA represented as a code - gForge11101
- Action: Vote: Move; Stephen Second; Russ Leftwich; 0 - Abstain; 0 - Against; 9 For
- Updates on:
- Current Topics
- PC Ballots
- PC Projects Status
- Co-Sponsored Projects Status
- From TSC ?
Current Topics
- Allergy Intolerance Topic:
- Updates: None provided
- Care Plan Topics
- ONC Types of ‘Care Plan’ Work
ONC need updates on care plan implementation – the ONC interoperability proving grounds is a way to track active interoperability projects. We will discuss during the WGM
- Content
- Structural
- Care TeamDefinition Project [with ONC]
- Content
- Structural
- IHE: New Care Team Management Profile proposal
- Proposal can be found here
- Update:None provided
Discussions:
PC Ballot updates
- FHIR Clinical Resources (Michelle):
- – has the FHIR timeline.
- Updates: FHIR tracker: will use the next 2 calls (Tuesday and Thursday this week). We have until Sunday. Need to look at referral request and apply the workflow pattern to it.
- Michelle will review Grahame’s email about practioner.role and we will discuss on the FHIR call and provide clarifications.
- Allergy ‘reactions’ need to split from Adverse ‘reactions’ agreed to – discussion did not get resolved at Jan WGM. Still need to continue the discussion
PC Projects Status Updates
Co-sponsored projectsUpdates
- SDWG – CCDA 2.1 companion guide ballot
- Point persons: Elaine, Lisa
- Plan to re-publish in Jan.
- Updates: None provided
- International Patient Summary Document – Decided to leave with SDWG (HSI co-sponsoring). Content part is still in the project scope which means more involvement for PC. PC need to contribute up-front. Encourage PC members to join calls– not just co-chairs. Need content SMEs.
- Action: Rob
- Will start project page when fully approved.
- Will send out a poll: Stephen: email with rob. He’s trying to coordinate call times that will work. Looking forward to the first call.
- IHTSDO coordination. Continue to move ahead. Will continue to work jointly with CDA on FHIR. Working on the minimal data needed for a useful set.
- Updates: None provided
- PC - CIMI POC
- PC and CIMI co-sponsoring. Involves MnM. Rob Hausam and Susan Matney participating. Modeling comes from CIMI. Anticipate finishing this summer. Resulting artifact is a CIMI model and analysis. No ballot.
- Want to re-ballot in May 2017. Need to meet the Feb deadline. We may need to vote on email to meet the Feb deadline.
Updates:None provided
- PC/FHIR – Negation
- Rob and Jay lead
- See spreadsheet – look at column D and if you have a scenario that is missing, email Jay.
- Plan on getting to something that’s ready to publish with plan for May 2017 informative ballot
- Artifact will be a “policy” – something that people have to follow. Why will it not be a DAM? Stephen preference is a DAM that will wash out a set of policies that can be used as an appendix. Negation is a large and important topic. Jay thinks we can call it a DAM. The work will be the same. There is interest in writing a policy that people will have to follow. DAM will be heavy with existing design patterns. Will talk about it on the next negation call. Whether we do a DAM or not can still do a policy paper. Strongly support the policy paper.
- Updates:plan to ballot in May
- Jay move to ballot the Negation DAM in May; Laura Second; 0 Abstain; 0 Against; 9 For
- CIMI/FHIM Investigative Study
- Updates:None provided
- PC/JET - Allergy
- Substance terminology harmonization (JET project – analysis of the list and regeneration of use frequency list.)
- Up for which ballot? – was not balloted in Jan.
- Action: Need to ask Elaine if needed for May.
- Updates: None provided
- PC/FHIR - Care Plan
- Care Plan Harmonization
- Stephen: Next steps is a Care Plan harmonization project looking at harmonizing the DAM and the Care Plan FHIR resource. Laura started a spreadsheet. Stephen sent out the spreadsheet. Calls will be during the Bi-monthly care plan calls. Goal is to do high level analysis and proposed resolutions.
- Updates: None provided
- PC/SOA - CCS Publication- Laura
- Located here -
- Sent email to Lynn to ask why not in the master grid. Notification of intend to publish done.
- Updates:CCS publication – TSC made some changes in their tracking system. Also need to find the spreadsheet.
- Action: Stephen will follow-up with Enrique for the spreadsheet and with TSC
- PC/SOA - PSS for "Scheduling Service" Specification
- Laura – Round 2 of CCS See
- PC is co-sponsor. SOA will do the heavy lifting
- Laura will review off line and update PC via email discussion
- Stephen – we need to be aware of how this contributes to PC care plan work
- Updates: None provided
- PC/FHIR Updates
- Clinical Notes –
- Clinician-on-FHIR
- Plans for next steps
- Suggestions for overall approach next time around
- ClinFHIR tool use
- Updates: None provided
- PC/SDWG - CCDA clinical status value set- Discussed during WGM
- Stephen updated the slides. Lisa responded with spreadsheet.
- Next Steps: Stephen will review Lisa’s spreadsheet and update slides. Will discuss on our next co-chair call.
- Updates:None provided
Parking Lot
- Family member FHIR resource – Hackathon
- Elaine: NIH project thru NCBI – propose taking a look at FM history that will enable adding family tree information to FHIR resources. Genomic tool used for entering family history.
- Project postponed - will try again in Jan. 2017
- Adverse Event Resource –
- Owned by RCRIM (we are co-sponsoring).
- Updates: None provided
Other Committee Business
Next PC WG Co-Chair call – February 27, 2017(4thMonday)
** Topics to discuss during this call
DESD Assignments:
- Anatomic Pathology – Stephen
- Anesthesia – Stephen
- Attachments – Jay
- BRIDG – JeanEmma
- Child Health – RussStephen
- Clinical Genomics – Laura
- CIC – Jay
- CQI – RussStephen
- CBCC – JeanLaura
- Emergency Care – Laura
- Devices – LauraMichelle
- Patient Care – Stephen
- Pharmacy – Michael, Michelle
- PHER –ElaineLaura
- RCRIM – Elaine Emma
- Learning Health Systems – Laura
- Triage Person: Emma (notice from Melva Peters)