Monday, 05-Mar-01 18:22:04
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64.231.53.25 writes:
Over the winter I have purchased a neglected Edel. The keel is in rough shape.It has deep "exploded" rust pockets and of course the usual crack. I know I need to grind it down, fill the craters with epoxy, prime and paint. Could anyone who has gone through this please give me advise or tips regarding method and products best suited for the job. Should the keel joint be completely repacked?
Ready to get going on it. Come ooonn warm sunshine!
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Edel 665Tuesday, 20-Feb-01 16:28:35
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64.114.40.18 writes:
Had my boat recently surveyed and it was pointed out that my spreaders should be angling down a few degrees rather than being 90 degrees from the mast. There doesn't appear to be any adjustment.
Ben
Ben
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Edel 540 WantedWednesday, 14-Feb-01 01:19:29
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129.37.148.41 writes:
Wanted - Edel 540 - Good shape, clean boat prefer later model but interested in hearing from all with a good, clean example.
Located in Toronto but will travel 300-400 miles for the right boat (on trailer).
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David Hadley: Re: Edel 540 Wanted (05-Mar-01 14:26:59)Re: Edel 540 Wanted
Monday, 05-Mar-01 14:26:59
63.38.168.108 writes:
I do have an Edel 540 built in 1982. I am the second owner. The first owner had only sailed the boat for twelve days in 1983, so it sat idle and covered untill the year 2000, when I bought. I am being transfered with work, and am forced to sell the boat. I am looking for only $3,500. It does not have a trailer, but one could be customized for less then $1,500. The engine is a never used Force 5 that I purchased two weeks ago. David B. Hadley (717)293-7809.
David Hadley
Edel 665
Saturday, 03-Feb-01 00:41:39
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24.71.223.140 writes:
What does a good condition Edel 665 with trailer and sails sell for? I'm thinking of restoring one and I want to put a cap on my expenditures.
dave
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Re: Edel 665 (10-Feb-01 18:37:54)Re: Edel 665
Saturday, 10-Feb-01 18:37:54
64.228.137.37 writes:
Dave... depends where you are of course but in Ontario the asking prices range between 5 and 8k.
You can get some info (sale price ranges in the valueguide) and listings at boatforsale.org
Jim
sale 540
Thursday, 18-Jan-01 07:29:28
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152.163.213.212 writes:
OK, it's up for sale, 540, 4 sails, motor, new bottom paint, new rudder, potty, cushions all the good stuff you need to sail but no trailer. This boat is a good and faithful companion, even the motor never let me down when my sail skills did. $2000. US, Melbourne, FL ( a good reason to come on down) 321-254-8026
carolyn
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new itemsWednesday, 27-Dec-00 20:50:57
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209.52.233.53 writes:
I have an edel 540,we cruise the gulf islands a lot summer or winter.I made some improvments to the boat i thought some one would like to Know. First I put a railing on the back it was a great improvment.we can cook out side hang things off of it.We also fiberglassed the rudder so it would last longer in the water.We put a jiffy reff on it because in winter we get some huge gusts of wind.We also put 35 feet of chain and 80 feet of rode,i cant beleive it will fit in the locker bu it dose,just.Also i put down 20lbs of cannon ball when windy and iam not going any were.if any one has inprovments let me know or would like further info please feel free to ask. thank you..
dean
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Jonnie Stewart: Re: new items (28-Dec-00 18:17:01)Re: new items
Thursday, 28-Dec-00 18:17:01
205.206.39.109 writes:
Dean:
I installed an Autohelm on "Tiny" (my 540) last year and it has contributed well to my single handing. If you have any questions, give me a shout.
jds
Jonnie Stewart
Jonnie Stewart: Re: new items (28-Dec-00 18:22:41)
Thursday, 28-Dec-00 18:22:41
205.206.39.109 writes:
Dean:
Further to your request re: improvements, I also installed a bracket onto the transom rail of Tiny. Onto this, I attach a "Big Jon" downrigger for trolling (it includes a rod holder). I have caught a number of salmon this way. FYI, in case you like to fish.
jds
Jonnie Stewart
WANTED EDEL 540
Saturday, 23-Dec-00 09:51:56
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142.217.242.33 writes:
i'm looking for a small sail boat,
i have a set of sails for an edel 540
and would like to buy the boat to go with them.
please email me with any information.
thank-you
MIKE
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C Stewart: Re: WANTED EDEL 540 (13-Jan-01 07:39:44)Re: WANTED EDEL 540
Saturday, 13-Jan-01 07:39:44
152.163.207.64 writes:
Today is your lucky day, I have my Edel 540 for sail, 4 sails, new bottom paint, motor,porta potty, all the stuuf you need to sail away.
Call 321-254-8026 Melbourne, FL
C Stewart
C Stewart: Re: WANTED EDEL 540 (13-Jan-01 07:45:43)
Re: WANTED EDEL 540
Saturday, 13-Jan-01 07:45:43
152.163.207.64 writes:
I forgot the price! $2,000.
C Stewart
edel 540
Wednesday, 13-Dec-00 20:23:54
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209.52.233.37 writes:
I have an edel 540,and am curently racing it.I would like to know how much you can heal with safty.I have had at 25% but I am worried about how much I have left.
dean
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Jonnie Stewart: Re: edel 540 (26-Dec-00 21:06:47)Re: edel 540
Tuesday, 26-Dec-00 21:06:47
205.206.39.75 writes:
Dean:
I sail a 540 called Tiny on Lake Ontario. I don't believe there is a safety concern in terms of healing the boat. I have had the boat out in some ugly weather (30-40kts, 4-5+ foot waves)but I have never taken water into the cockpit. Long before I get to that point I shorten sail. I had a storm jib made by North Sails and can reach hull speed with it in 30-40kts with the boat under perfect control and able to point decently as well. I also rarely use my roller furling genoa anymore, although when I cruise, I take it, the storm jib and a working jib to be ready for anything. Tiny has never come close to getting knocked flat. She seems to stall and sort of skitter to leeward a bit when momentarily overpowered. Good sailing!
Jonnie Stewart
Phil De Troy: Re: edel 540 (04-Jan-01 18:44:20)
Re: edel 540
Thursday, 04-Jan-01 18:44:20
62.4.189.27 writes:
Like all Micro's, the boat sould be considered as safe if she meets the requirements of the category, for a cruiser - provided the total weight is not in excess of 560 - 600 kgs - that tha boat heeled at 90° should be able to lift 15 kgs at the top of the mast.
On a lake, you will never heel further without an external help (crew falling in the mainsail...)
Anyway, this position is not the best to sail fast.
A good angle for sailing is 20 to 25°. In this position, the boat should be light on the helm.
Further, 30° or more, she becomes hard to steer, losses speed as the rudder acts as a brake. In a sudden gust, don't fight too hard, you could break the rudder. Just ease the mainsail sheet, let the boat luff for some degrees, the when the gust is over, take control again. Avoid leaving the sheet on the cleat, be ready to let the sail fly !
And reduce the main if there is impossible to go on at less than 25° of heel !
Phil De Troy
Technical Manager Micro Class
Phil De Troy
a couple of sites
Tuesday, 12-Dec-00 19:21:05
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216.209.140.38 writes:
these are a couple of sites that I found on the 540... nice pictures...you might need a translator... good luck
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Jonnie Stewart: Re: a couple of sites (26-Dec-00 21:11:55)Re: a couple of sites
Tuesday, 26-Dec-00 21:11:55
205.206.39.75 writes:
Whoever you are:
I sail a 540 called Tiny on Lake Ontario. Thanks for the tip on the web sites. I enjoyed them. Cheers!
Jonnie Stewart
mast attachment
Monday, 11-Dec-00 14:06:54
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198.164.200.231 writes:
When I encountered problems with the bow attachment last summer, I suddenly realized that if something happened to the forestay or backstay, I might be confronted with a demasting and a mast coming at me like a missile. When I inspected the base of the mast, there appears to be some possible attachments, etc. Would anyone know if the mast is to be attached to base (grooves, etc.) or should it be like mine, just held up by the stays and shrouds. I would appreciate any information or comments on this subject.
Gerard Belliveau
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John Gahrmann: Re: mast attachment (16-Feb-01 09:26:49)Re: mast attachment
Friday, 16-Feb-01 09:26:49
207.86.110.34 writes:
Gerald,
The mast base allows for a pin to be inserted that acts as a hinge in the mast raising process and keeps the mast from jumping out of the base in the rare instance that the deck flexed or the rigging was loose enough to allow it to move upward. I do not think it would keep the mast upright should your forstay or backstay give way.
- John
John Gahrmann
Info about the Micro Class for owners of 540
Friday, 08-Dec-00 16:09:00
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194.7.234.34 writes:
Hello all Edel Owners overseas !
It's a long time Decagone won the Micro Cup in St Malo, but Edel productions can still be seen racing in Europe.
There is a major error in the documents provided on the site : Decagone was an Edel 2 one-off, with longer mast, lighter construction, daggerboard. The Edel V / 545 was wider, more comfortable, and slightly slower.
The International Micro Class has a web site (another URL, easier to remember is
You will find there the latest evolutions of the class rules (longer battens allowed in the mainsail). If you want to be kept informed of all news in the class, please ask to .
Since 1998, Canadians use to cross the Atlantic (by plane !). They just take a white spinnaker with maple leaf in their luggage.
Next year, the World Championship will be organised at MAUBUISSON, near Bordeaux, and we expect 30 prototypes and 20 production boats, of whiche some will be cruisers. There could be some Edel 545 available for overseas crews, you could come with your own sails.
Some other points of contact :
Helmut CZASNY (Micro Class - International Relations) : (provider doesn't accept messages from hotmail.com !)
Philippe DE TROY (Micro Class - Chairman Technical Committee) :
Walter GOLAB (from Toronto, member of the Canadian crew in 1998-1999, wants to launch a Canadian Micro Class Association) :
Chris Kusmider (other contact in Toronto) :
Web site of the organiser of the Micro World Cup : Cercle de la Voile de Bordeaux
Anyway, enjoy your visit on the Micro Class web site
Phil DE TROY
Webmaster Micro Class
Philippe DE TROY
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Edel get togetherSaturday, 02-Dec-00 15:37:36
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24.71.73.188 writes:
I have contacted the Edel owners in B.C Alberta and Sask to gauge interest in a get together. If you have not ben contacted some did not have where they sailed out of ) and would be interested please e-mail me or call me tel # 250 - 390 - 1802 and lets see if we can get together late summer of next year. I offer Nanaimo as a starting point with the Dinghy dock pub /restaurant only floating one of its kind in Canada. Across the way is Newcastle island a Provincial Park and Pacific Yachting ranked it # 3. It offers camping facilities picnic areas and playground and has a fabulous views of the ocean and Nanaimo. Of course the sailing is pretty good too and that would be the focus. Anyway let me know your thoughts, ideas, and suggestions . We could also use my marina for temp moorage or Newcastle island. Lots of possibilities. What do you say sailors ?
DON ATCHISON
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Dean: Re: Edel get together (13-Dec-00 20:16:00)Re: Edel get together
Wednesday, 13-Dec-00 20:16:00
209.52.233.37 writes:
I would be interested in the Edel get together
I have a Edel 540.Please send any applicable information.
Dean
WANTED INFO ON EDEL III
Tuesday, 28-Nov-00 09:28:16
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212.232.32.144 writes:
Could anyone please give some specifications about EDEL III boat, 1969... Thank you!
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Mast fittingsSaturday, 11-Nov-00 10:12:43
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207.34.3.179 writes:
I was having trouble with the dropping of sails on our 820. I tried new slides on the main and thought perhaps the halyards were tangled inside the mast. At lift out this year we took the top off the mast and discovered that the sheaves were worn out. They had flat sides and were not turning. Also one was installed incorrectly.
I called E.B. Spars in Hudson, Quebec at 450-455-7921. They provided the original equipment for the Edels in the production process. I happened to be in Quebec and dropped by. Evert Bastet welcomed me and in ten minutes he had me on my way with a new set of sheaves and a new gooseneck split ball connector. I was amazed and very pleased that these parts are so readily available.
Thanks to E. B. Spars!
Paul Charles
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Mark Bowen: Re: Mast fittings (16-Nov-00 22:31:23)Re: Mast fittings
Thursday, 16-Nov-00 22:31:23
216.154.8.112 writes:
Paul
I am glad you had good success with Evert.I also
had good luck after my boom was stolen.He replaced it with the original boom,but with a new
mast gooseneck fitting not that "Rubik's cube
fitting with all the wee bits".I trust you got the new Isomat one I got (so simple)It's always nice to have happy endings isn't it.Good man to deal with!
Mark Bowen
Paul Charles: Re: Re: Mast fittings (19-Nov-00 08:39:25)
Re: Re: Mast fittings
Sunday, 19-Nov-00 08:39:25
207.34.3.188 writes:
Actually I guess I am too cheap to replace the whole gooseneck so I simply bought a pair of the half globe pieces. Mine were quite worn and I always had visions of dropping one over the side during installation so now I have spares!
The gooseneck fitting is rather strange but it really works well - just don't drop the parts!
Paul Charles
Mast fittings
Saturday, 11-Nov-00 10:06:23
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207.34.3.179 writes:
Paul
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raising and lowering mastFriday, 10-Nov-00 13:28:17
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24.69.122.230 writes:
cold anyone tell me any tricks to use when raising or lowering the mast on a 540. It is too awkward fro my wife and I to do, and in fact another friend and I dropped it off the deck and bent one of the spreaders. They say they are trailerable but outside of trying to muscle the mast up ( this is difficult and not always ractical ) is there an easier and lwss hard on one's back ? Thanks for your help. Incidentently I have gone to a 4 hp yamaha 4 stroke from a 2 hp honda 4 stroke and WHAT a difference it makes. I would reccomend this comb to others. Also have Endura painted the hull off white with burgundy cove and water stripes and have people think it is a new boat. Cheers and can't wait for spring.
don atchison
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Paul Charles: Re: raising and lowering mast (11-Nov-00 10:05:02)Re: raising and lowering mast
Saturday, 11-Nov-00 10:05:02
207.34.3.179 writes:
Hi Don,
There are a few hints to make that precarious job a little easier and indeed a lot safer. When I had a trailerable boat we rigged a pole to the front of the mast about five feet high and five feet long at right angles and ran a halyard from the top of the mast fastened to the end of this pole. Lay the mast down on the deck with the foot in position and the top toward the aft of the boat. Fasten the shrouds and backstay and then use the pole to lever the mast up. With one person on the halyard the other can fasten the forestay.
This description may not be all that clear so, if you would like to discuss it, e-mail me and I'll give my phone number.
In the meantime perhaps other site visitors will be able to elaborate on this method.
Paul Charles
C Stewart: Re: raising and lowering mast (13-Jan-01 07:44:21)
Re: raising and lowering mast
Saturday, 13-Jan-01 07:44:21
152.163.207.64 writes:
Been there, done that! Best advise, and I'm not being a smart alek, get more people. If they want to ride on the boat, help raise the mast.
Four people worked well, the strongest on the fore stay. One in the boat with an long Y stick and one on each side. We found putting all the stays on first was helpfull.
C
C Stewart
keel (665)
Tuesday, 07-Nov-00 18:49:59
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216.154.11.135 writes:
There's a lot of talk about iron keels on 540's and 820's.
This has renewed my curiosity in the 665 keel, which I have always believed to be lead enscapulated in fibreglass. (Probing with a magnet reveals no presence of iron and I have never seen a hull/keel crack on a 665.) I assume the lead is cast into the required shape, or is it loose ingots? How is it secured, mechanically or just by the fibreglass? Does anyone know? I have drilled within 2 or 3 inches of the keel's trailing edge (to drain any water) and found this area void of any metal.
My interest stems from the fact that my 665 is the one which is bow heavy (submerged waterline at bow) and I wonder if perhaps my ballast shifted forward. Strange that the other models would use an iron keel!
Nigel Gough