Visitors Present at the Meeting Were Patrick Flanagan, David Tuten, and Susan Myers

April 12, 2016

7:00 P.M.

The Town of Pink Hill held its monthly board meeting on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 7:00 p.m. in the town hall board room. Present for the meeting were Mayor Carol Sykes, Commissioners Mike Hill, Donald King and Debra Grady, Town Attorney George Jenkins, Public Works Director Timmy Kennedy, Police Chief Joey Thigpen, and Town Clerk Kimberly Mitchell.

Visitors present at the meeting were Patrick Flanagan, David Tuten, and Susan Myers.

Mayor Sykes called the meeting to order and requested for all cell phones to be turned off please. Mayor Sykes welcomed everyone to the meeting and asked Commissioner Kingto lead everyone in the pledge of allegiance. Commissioner Hill made a motion to approve the agenda with amendment 5a. Commissioner King seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Commissioner Hill made a motion to approve the consent agenda including the March 8, 2016 regular board meeting minutes. Commissioner Grady seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.

The first item on the agenda was the Asset Inventory & Assessment Grant. Mayor Sykes introduced David Tuten with Stroud Engineering and thanked him for coming and turned the meeting over to him. Mr. Tuten said he is from Stroud Engineering and they are based out of Greenville and they do a little bit of everything such as land development, water/sewer, and they also try to go after a lot of the grants for the small towns. He said the state just had training a couple of weeks ago and they are also going to be established for the spring of this year as far as grants available for all municipalities. He stated something interesting came up as far as that they have never done before and that is the asset and management plan for a lot of the small towns. They are putting in up to $150,000 for water and/or sewer individually so a lot of the small towns can put together a capital improvement plan and that includes asset management plan, capital improvement plan, and the O & M manual. Mr. Tuten said he has worked with Commissioner Hill a number of times on some of the O & M manuals for some of the smaller towns. He said they have gotten a lot pickier over the years. He stated their definition of an O & M manual has to include the manufacturing specs for that particular plant whether it is water or sewer and they want the actual plans or manuals that came with the equipment. Mr. Tuten said it really builds up a lot of time to put something like that together. The state decided since we are requiring it more and more, so let’s go ahead and make it available to some of our smaller towns with funding involved.

He said Harry Bailey and himself came by and met with Timmy and Kim last week and talked to them to see if they were interested if something would be available that they wanted to try to pursue and they said that we should bring it before the board to get your input also. The only thing about it is they are saying you have to put 5 percent into the cost but the little thing that they put into that is that it can be work. So the town itself can put time in towards trying to get the asset management plan in place and that counts toward that 5 percent. He said overall it should not cost the town anything. Mr. Tuten said now there again it is the first time that they have implemented the program and if you have done anything with the state as far as stuff like this, it is always a learning experience on our side and their side so things do change.

He said if the board has any questions he is hoping that he can answer them and see if it is something that maybe you would like to submit the paperwork for. Mayor Sykes asked if it was for water and/or sewer and Mr. Tuten replied yes. He said he had talked with Timmy to see if they would want to do one or do both and Timmy feels if we want to do both of them then we can go ahead and try to apply for it.

Mr. Tuten said they are pressing it more and more to get an asset management plan in place. It is not something that you can just throw together in three or four weeks. So getting all three documents in place to get the points for an asset management plan is going to be time consuming which is where the money comes in that the state is allowing you to try to apply for. He said but getting that in place puts you 10 points on the next funding cycle. Mr. Tuten said the way to get grants now and the way it has been in the past is you have to kind of put together a package and score your system as you are going along. He said an asset management plan now is 10 points on that system and it is a pretty huge chunk of points off on the get go. Mr. Tuten said they try to tell you that you shouldn’t try to apply for this type of grant just to get the documentation for the points but really it is all a numbers game in the end anyway.

He said with the asset plan in place you are putting everything out in the books, so anybody that comes in after Timmy or whoever knows exactly what the town has whether it is water or sewer. Everything put there is going to have an age and an assessment part of it so you can see how old your inventory is and when you are likely to see something break in the future or whether you need to try to save up funding for that very product that might break down or something like that. Mayor Sykes asked Mr. Tuten if the grant has started yet or are we just in the beginning stages. Mr. Tuten said as far as starting the application has to be submitted by the end of the month. He said they decided to do training at the beginning of this month so we have had all of about a week. He said they said here is the paperwork and here is the instructions and now try to apply for it. So we are kind of on a tight turntable. Mayor Sykes asked is it mainly first come first serve or just the points. Mr. Tuten said as far as this from the training they said that they really want to try to get as many of these out as they possibly can being this is the first time they have done it and this is going to be the first cycle for the spring of 2016. He said he does not foresee a lot of people trying to go for it. In fact some of the other people he has talked to when they have called their engineering firms, they are like maybe they will try in the fall or spring of next year. He said there is not a lot of meat on the bone for certain engineering firms.

Mr. Tuten said they do not care if it is large or small as long as it benefits the town and it also works for us, we will go for whatever it is. He said they think that they can get the package together as far as trying to submit to get the funding for the town by the end of the month. Mr. Tuten said they are going to have to work closely with Timmy and Kim as far as getting the paperwork and seeing exactly what the town already has in place so we can put a dollar amount on what it would possibly cost to get the final product. Once the state decides that they want to move forward with the funding, they have kind of done something different than what they have done in the past. He said once they approve that package they are going to call us to move forward to discuss with them what the money is going to be used for before they will go ahead and give you the final approval which he thinks is great.

Mayor Sykes asked how long if we are awarded the money will we have to complete the project or is this just something that we are going to save until we need to do something. Mr. Tuten stated eighteen months. Mayor Sykes asked what the maximum amount was. Mr. Tuten stated it was $150,000 but for a town this size he did not see it coming close to that because you have to submit an application for water and then you have to submit an application for sewer. He said you cannot do a combined application. Mayor Sykes asked if there was a minimum amount that the project has to have. He said the minimum thing for this project is you have to have the asset management as far as all your stuff inventoried and the age of it. This is the minimum as far as what the funding can be allowed for. They will allow you to do it in phases and that is something that did come out in the training. If for some reason you are not able to do the full three pieces, Asset Management, CIP, or O&M, they will let you do it in phases. Mr. Tuten said but for a town this size he does not see where it would be an issue to try to do all three at once.

He said he has a feeling that this is going to be popular especially this fall and there is going to be more competition. There again also kind of what Timmy was leading to earlier, they did discuss some of the things that were going to be available this fall which is going to be the CDBG money which is going to be mostly towards infrastructure where there is water and sewer. He said they have kind of gone away from the housing, they definitely lean more towards the water and sewer. He said that has been really big the last two or three years. There will be a drinking water State Revolving Fund and also with the $3 million bond referendum they just passed, they are not sure what they are going to do with it yet, but they know they are going to split it thirds. Have a third available for this fall and then the two cycles next year. He said they really have not said exactly how much they are going to put towards grant money and/or loan money but that is what they are going to try to work out this summer. Mayor Sykes said but we are talking about grant money plus our 5 percent contribution. Mr. Tuten said for this type of plan here it is just going to be strictly grant money and 5 percent which hopefully will be all in work. He said he does not think it is going to take very long for Timmy to work that off.

Mr. Tuten said they are submitting it and there is not going to be any charge to submit it and if it gets submitted, then we will move forward with trying to structure the grant. He asked Commissioner Hill if he had seen the benchmarks and he replied no. Mr. Tuten said that is something new for this cycle also. They decided to put five benchmarks on any grants now. You have to hit three out of the five. You have to be worse than three of the average benchmarks for the State of North Carolina. Mr. Tuten passed around a paper for the board to see concerning the benchmarks. He then passed around another page with the calculator on it that the state has put together. He explained at the very top of the page is where you put in your town and it automatically grades you on those benchmarks. Now all the other numbers are fictitious, those are put in there automatically with the calculator that do not represent the Town of Pink Hill at all but those benchmarks are what you have to have now. If you do not hit three, then you are not eligible for any grants at all. Mr. Tuten three out of five is 10 percent 15 and then 20 percent. Mayor Sykes stated she certainly thought it was worth the try.

Timmy asked Mr. Tuten if he was right or wrong that the plans have to be upgraded every 5 years. Mr. Tuten said the Capital Improvement Plan has to have been created within the last 10 years and approved within the last 5 years. Timmy said he thinks the last one was done by Mr. Butts and he has been retired about 7 or 8 years. Mr. Tuten said the way that the grant funding right now looks like they have placed some of this information on the website for the Capital Improvement Plan itself you get 2 points and for a full Asset Management Plan you get 10 points.

Mayor Sykes asked how long he thought it would take to get it together. Mr. Tuten stated there again he doesn’t know exactly everything that we have because he hasn’t sat down with Timmy or Kim yet. He said that will determine exactly what they have got to work with and then that will determine the timeline. Mayor Sykes asked if we get it in on time when would the award take place. He said it is at the leisure of the state he hates to say. Mr. Tuten said there is nothing that really has to be approved tonight but there is three pieces of information that is really time sensitive. One is going to be the LGC forms which is the 108a and 108c and there is one called a Fund Transfer saying that you have not transferred any funds from your water/sewer to your general fund for frivolous reasons. Most towns don’t have any issues with that if they have managed their books correctly but if you have been moving your stuff around then you are automatically ineligible for any type of funding from the State or Federal Government. Mr. Tuten said there is a resolution that has to be approved but the state actually realized that they did not give enough time to try to get this application together, so instead of having the resolution in place by the end of the month, they have given us a June 15th deadline. If the town decides that they want to move forward with this funding, then he will go ahead and get the template filled out for the town and then email it to either the town or Timmy. Then it can be passed at the next board meeting. George Jenkins asked Mr. Tuten if he needed the resolution tonight and he replied no because he did not have it with him for tonight. Mayor Sykes asked if we are going to do this and we have got to have a resolution, can we go ahead and approve the resolution. George said without having a resolution to see, he thinks that they could pass a resolution but not his resolution indicating that it is the intent of the board to engage in this inventory and apply for the grant. Then you can dot the “I’s” and cross the “T’s” when he gets the resolution itself to you. Kim stated she was thinking that the board would make a motion to proceed with the grant application process and then at the next meeting approve the resolution. Commissioner Grady made a motion to apply for the Asset Inventory and Assessment grant. Commissioner Hill seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Mayor Sykes thanked David Tuten for coming.

Mayor Sykes said the next item on the agenda was the Lenoir County Comprehensive Transportation Plan (CTP) and she introduced Patrick Flanagan who is here to make the presentation. Patrick Flanagan told the board to look at the handouts and follow along with the presentation. He said he is with Eastern Carolina Council and we run what is called the Eastern Carolina RPO which is a Rural Transportation Planning Organization. He stated they have a four county area that they cover which includes Lenoir County and what the RPO does is transportation planning and prioritization of projects within those four counties. Mr. Flanagan said they are kind of like the middle man between those counties and the municipalities within those counties and NCDOT in Raleigh. One of the things that NCDOT is required to do by general statute is comprehensive transportation plans. Right now Lenoir is getting ready to undergo one of these comprehensive transportation plans. He said they have not started the plan yet. He wanted to come and talk with the board, explain what it is, and kind of go over what the plan means and what we will be doing and how it affects Pink Hill so you guys have an understanding before we really get underway in this process. The comprehensive transportation plan is really a long range transportation vision. It is a 30 year look from now until 30 years from now at what potential transportation projects will be needed within the study areas. So for this study it is Lenoir County. Mr. Flanagan stated this is a multimodal plan meaning we not just talking about roads and highways, this is also bicycle, pedestrian, rail, transit and every mode of transportation that is going to be looked at within this comprehensive transportation plan. It also involves a lot of public participation. We do a survey of the citizens. We have public comment meetings where we look at draft ideas and stuff to get some feedback from the public. What we are really looking for is how the area is going to grow, whether that means household population or whether it means economically through business and industry and that kind of stuff. How it is going to grow, how much it is going to grow, where it is going to grow over those 30 years, and then applying that to the existing transportation network and seeing what needs to be improved based on those growth rates and where we think that growth is going to happen. In other words if an industrial park is going to open right north of Pink Hill, then we need to know that because there is going to need to be some road improvements to help serve that industrial park. He stated that is the kind of thing they are talking about. If there is going to be a large residential neighborhood that is getting ready to be built in Pink Hill, that is the kind of thing we are going to want to know about so we can talk about if they are going to need sidewalks there, are they going to need bicycle lanes, or are we going to need to do any road improvements. He said they are doing that over a 30 year period. Mr. Flanagan said looking at our existing transportation network, how is it working right now, do any improvements need to be made based on how it functions right now, and then also as we add population and employment over those 30 years, what other potential issues popup that we are going to need to have some sort of answer or fix for within this plan. That is the general concept of what the comprehensive transportation plan is.