Town of Kinderhook

Planning Board – Workshop

April 14, 2011

Approved 5/19/2011

The meeting of the Town of Kinderhook Planning Board Workshop was held on April, 14 2011 beginning at 7:05pm at the Kinderhook Town Hall, 4 Church Street, Niverville, NY with Chairman Robert Cramer presiding. The meeting was called to order by the Chairman and roll was taken by the secretary.

A. Call Roll

Present: Excused:

Robert Cramer, Chairman Ed Harson

Andrew Howard, Attorney

Patrick Prendergast, Engineer

Cheryl Gilbert

Jim Egnasher

Mary Keegan-Cavagnaro

Chris Simonsen

William Butcher

Dale Berlin Absent:

Tim Ooms

Jake Samascott

Nataly Dee, Secretary

Councilman Peter Bujanow was in attendance.

B. Correspondence

Recording notices for Donald Marsh and Weil were received from the County and copies were placed in their respective files.

C. Old Business

1. Mark Cebula: Subdivision. He has spoken with Pat Prendergast. The engineer for the project, Don Wijeskog, looked at some realignment of the driveway up to the house, which took out some of the curves and straigtened out some of the verticals. Pat Prendergast thought that was a good ides. Elevation shots were taken and it is hoped that these changes will meet the grade requirements of the Code. Pat Prendergast requested information on drainage. Project is still in motion and information may be available in time for the next meeting or next month’s meeting.

2. Kinderkill Development, LLC. Represented by Jason Shaw: Subdivision. Public Hearing set for 4/21/2011 at 7:10pm. Robert Cramer will not be in attendance; Mary Keegan-Cavagnaro is Deputy and will run the Meeting.

3. Tom Hall: Trailer Park. Peter Van Alstyne, Land Surveyor addressed the Board. The applicant would like to place two additional trailers in the existing park. Sketches of the proposed project were distributed to the Board for review. It is proposed that the dumpster be moved from its current location. Pat Prendergast was concerned with the issue of drainage. Results of pump tests on the wells by Jeff Smith will be supplied when available. Andy recused himself from the discussion. Robert Cramer stated that the current Code calls for a distance of 50’ between structures. He’s trying to make best use of the property. However, based on the sketches provided, it looks like it could be doable, but we don’t have the Code to support that. He suggested, if everyone is in agreement, to send the case to the ZBA for an opinion. Plans need to reflect where the dumpsters will be kept and what screening of them will be provided. Are there any objections? The file was pulled to examine prior approved projects and maps. It was requested that details from the various maps be over-layed and upgraded. Jim Egnasher broached the issue of how this would affect lot coverage. Section 81-20 and section 81-22 A.1.G.

of the code were referenced. Cheryl Gilbert wanted the rest of the parcel to be reviewed and a review of previous approvals The concern was that things don’t get shifted closer to the road. The issue of the existing shed that houses lawn equipment was discussed. Applicant would like to rebuild the shed. If it reuses the same footprint it will only require a Building Permit. Berlin, playing devil’s advocate, brought up the issue of how are we going to justify this exception in the event that other projects of a similar nature come before the Board. What prevents others from doing the same? Robert Cramer stated that in this case the negative impacts are fewer than positive impacts. Because there are two separate properties, should we be looking at them as separate issues? Because the properties are owned by the same person that was not thought to be of consequence. When this trailer park was first built, lot coverage was not an addressed issue. It was thought that with the existing 23 trailers the site was already non-conforming and out of compliance. Issues of the dumpsters, the Code, and drainage need to be addressed but the Board would make a determination at next week’s meeting. Peter Van Alstyne said he would have another sketch for next week and maybe Mr. Hall would be in attendance.

D. New Business

None

E. ZBA Opinion

None

F. Liaisons

1. Kinderhook Village Planning Board: Nothing to report.

2. Town Board:

a. Jason Natske and Virginia Martin from the Board of Election addressed the Board about the consolidation of poll sites in the Town. District 5, 6, 7 & 8 will now vote in the gym at the High School.

b. Keith St John was appointed to the Zoning Board of Appeals.

c. As the result of vandalism at Volunteer Park, the park will be closed from dusk to dawn.

d. Tom Griffin, Assessor, requested new scanner, computers, etc to upgrade system.

e. Special Board Meeting planned for June 4. First meeting at 9am will be an informational meeting regarding the Land Development Corp. Peter Bujanow provided some back-ground about the LDC. In March, Steve Kirk representing the Village of Valatie LDC presented two proposed businesses: a window restoration company and a sauce manufacturing operation. Details have not yet been provided. There will be a follow-up meeting specifically addressing. The issues are around land sales and procurement policies and do they have to comply with the local codes and planning and zoning requirements? LDC by laws do not specifically state whether they can get involved in Town business. Public Hearing was delayed for an informational session.

f. The second meeting will be held at 11am in regard to softball.

g. A committee was formed to review the proposed NYSEG transmission line. NYSEG requested a meeting of the municipalities for April 20. It was decided to hold off on that date in order to confer further. A landowners group has hired an attorney and an engineer to review the matter.

3. Comprehensive Plan Review Committee:

New zoning map. elements have been added and updated. Committee is moving forward.

G. Other

1. Review of forms for Town’s website. Forms available on the Town’s website are being updated. Drafts were distributed and members were asked to review materials and make suggestions.

2. Public Comment:

None

Meeting adjourned at 7:57pm.

Respectfully submitted,

Nataly Dee, Secretary