September 2007doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/2423r0
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2007-09-16
Author(s):
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Dorothy Stanley / Aruba Networks / 1322 Crossman Ave
Sunnyvale, CA94089 / +1 630-363-1389 /
Chair called the meeting to order at 10:05 am Eastern time, September13, 2007.
The previously announced conference call details and agenda were as follows:
Thursday, September 13th 10:00am Eastern, 1 hour
The dial-in bridge information is:
1-719-457-6209
Code: 278944
Please review the documents at the following links prior to the call:
- IEEE Patent Policy -
- Affiliation FAQ -
- Anti-Trust FAQ -
- Ethics -
Tentative Agenda for the September 13th call:
1. Call to Order, Patent Notification
2. Letter Ballot Comment Status, Plans for resolution
3. September Presentations
4. Adjourn
Attendees on the conference call:
Alex Ashley
Floyd Backes
Emily Qi
Dorothy Stanley
Allan Thomson
1. The chair asked if all attendees on the call have viewed the new IPR policy, available at . All attendees had viewed the policy and had no related questions or notices.
2. The chair asked for any additions to the proposed agenda. There were no additions, and the proposed agenda was adopted.
3. Discussion: Letter Ballot Comment Status & Presentations
-TGv Letter Ballot 108 on Draft 1.0 closed on August 30th. Letter Ballot comments are posted in 07/2368. One voter claimed to have submitted comments, but no comments were received. Further investigation by Harry showed that comments were indicated as submitted, but were not received, and he is following up with IEEE support staff. Those comments will be included in the next version (-01) of the spreadsheet.
-When will the LB results be posted? CH: Harry is still working to determine the final results. Don’t have a date to give. Expect that we will be having a LB rather than a re-circulation on the next ballot.
-We have 11 sessions, during next week’s meeting, 3 on Monday, 4 on Tuesday, 1 on Wednesday and 3 on Thursday. Comment resolution is the main agenda item, also hear presentations and review the objectives. Final session on Thursday has plans for November, including discussion of telecons and ad-hoc meetings.
-Chair asked if there were any planned presentations. None were identified. The initial September agenda will be posted shortly.
-Suggested approach for comment resolution is to categorize comments into topic areas, and ask for volunteers to propose comment resolutions for each topic area, similar to how we had tackled the informal comments in the past. No objection to proceeding in this manner.
-Looking at 07-2368, the technical comments are categorized into 17 topic areas. Are there volunteers for the cartgories? Allan Thomson volunteers for FBMS and Presence. Dorothy for Proxy ARP and General. Emily will volunteer next week, after she is finished with the editorial comments.
-Comment: Concerned that there is enough time to review proposed resolutions. Could extend the 4-hour rule or establish another policy. Suggest using only existing policies, with availability of proposed resolutions being announced on the reflector, and announcements made in the meetings for when proposed resolutions will be discussed, as we have done in the past.
-Discussion – Proxy ARP comments. Several comments (259, 286, 697, 881, 1161) concerned with layering of Proxy ARP functionality, and propose removing the feature. Intent is that AP is only advertising the capability. Believe that ARP function is performed in the SME, rather than the AP, also change from “shall” language, as per comment 679. Agreement to draft resolutions based on this approach.
-Discussion Proxy ARP – Is feature optional – Yes, clearly indicated in the PICS. Propose to also add a statement to 11.2.1.4b that the feature is optional. This will provide proposed resolutions for 1376, 1531, 1683 and 1857.
-Discussion Proxy ARP – 4 (duplicate) comments ask to “Add a mechanism to allow an ARP proxy capable AP to switch on and off the ARP proxy service and signal the change to the STAs.” This mechanism already exists, via the Proxy ARP capability bit in the WNM capabilities IE.
-Discussion Proxy ARP – A concern that both legacy non-v STAs and APs will respond to ARP requests. Need to investigate further, see 9.2.7, can STAs send broadcast frames?
-Discussion – General – CID 215 should be in the traffic generation category.
-Discussion – Traffic Generation – Need to identify an owner for these comments. There are many comments asking to remove the functionality. Options are to (a) accept comments and remove the functionality, (b) keep functionality and respond to comments about lack if usefulness, specificity, etc. Chair will ask folks who proposed the feature to own preparing proposed comment resolutions.
-Discussion – General – Several comments (117, 327, 338, 1022, 1023, 1024) all ask to incorporate 07-2074 into the draft. 07-2074 – AP- Collaboration was considered at the July meeting, and rejected by an overwhelming margin (9-14). Currrent author of that document does not plan to bring it back. Comment: believe that the commenters plan to bring a separate presentation, and are using this as a placeholder. Comment: Concern that we be able to resolve the comments in a timely manner, need presentations, or will propose to adopt comment resolutions rejecting the comments. Comment: Consideration of the proposed resolutions should be done during the session next week. Yes, all proposed comment resolutions must be considered and approved/rejected by the TG.
-Discussion – General – Similar for CID 269, 291, where commenter asks to “Add features that enables coexistence of different radios”. We have the collocated interference feature, not sure what they are asking for. Emily to follow-up with the commenters for clarification.
-Discussion: A number of comments will require new submissions, for example new text for Clause 5 (e.g 1000, 1003).
Meeting adjourned at 11:05 am Eastern.
References:
Submissionpage 1Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks