Big Meeting

March 19, 2010

Strategic Issues Table Discussion Notes

Table: 1

Issue: 1 - Many students from diverse backgrounds do not have equal access to college.

Recorder: Donna Kosloski

  • Demographic age 44 and over – new increases in this bracket
  • Age 24 – bimodal – 2 modes – younger generation of students increasing lowered average age to 24
  • What do the 44 yr olds want?
  • Are we offering skills that are needed
  • More students coming with bachelors and masters seen in chemistry classes
  • Here for ______shells
  • Facility issue – to project credit issues into learning centers for ex:
  • Bright House – IT degree, AS Horticulture at Disney
  • More specific AS degree programs could be used to provide shells in theater
  • Mature students (in 30’s) squeeze generation – they need to vent
  • Do we have peer support in place?
  • Grown children out of work coming home
  • Deans control production of credit programs
  • Can we blend goals by offering credit courses at Valencia Enterprises?
  • Does this blur our vision?
  • LifeMap – best for traditional students
  • What should we have in place for squeeze generation?
  • Chosen school & programs based on work hours
  • We do not grant a lot of autonomy to new students for good reason
  • To assist choices and guide them
  • Calls on environmental classes, credits, programs
  • Helps students choose goals. Give a purpose or a path
  • Are 19yr old students different than 44 yr old?
  • Much diversity among 44 yr olds
  • Seasoned professionals retraining, retooling career, or brand new to college
  • Change mind set
  • Peer designed orientation based on cohort based on age
  • MARS program at Osceola
  • Order students used social network for networking
  • Mature students on west are just taking a class.
  • Osceola mature students seem more engaged in being a student and getting involved.
  • MARS – Ask Melissa Pedone
  • Single parents group
  • Homeless
  • How do we reach them and give access to college?
  • You get financial aid used for books & tuition
  • The remainder can be used for other necessities
  • There are still hardships
  • Pathways – homeless students to us, however, there are intersections
  • We need to guide them and have point person that can point the students to the right area or direction
  • Recycling – emails
  • Trying to reach our students
  • Email files are too big
  • 10 megabytes in student email account - They are full, can’t receive/recycle emails
  • Homeless students who are here – let’s reach more homeless people through emails to current homeless students
  • Interaction
  • Send texts to students w/ a link
  • Issue w/ cost of texts
  • Twitter
  • Who is using Twitter
  • UCF is using it
  • It is an it is an opt in type of program
  • The students like to text & will not open emails
  • GED earners
  • Students opt out of H.S. for various reasons
  • They need access and have great potential
  • Tap into existing programs from Orange County schools
  • Home schooled students
  • No set transcript coming in
  • Difficult to plan or place into interventions
  • Theme
  • Lots of kinds of diversity power
  • Power
  • Personalize, customize
  • How does Pathways customize w/ student’s that are diverse (homeless, poverty, etc.)
  • Traditional design helps our students but may begin hurting students that are diverse.
  • Different populations
  • Technically homeless
  • Living in cars, have cell phone
  • They do not consider themselves homeless so do not receive services and cannot feel connected to Valencia
  • NO student should feel like a number
  • Pathways need to be designed for many different types of students
  • How do we get different Pathways as an institutional initiative on all campuses not niche programs?
  • Look to student development
  • Need 10 students to start a new club
  • If students are not asking S.D. will not build the groups
  • Student’s experience is felt in the classroom.
  • We need to reach them there
  • Lots of discussion on MARS program at Osceola
  • Look at it
  • Can this be grown and used Collegewide
  • One challenge we face is that many of our private scholarships (and nearly all in/for Osceola) are limited to graduating seniors
  • It is essential for us to diversify scholarship opportunities (particularly for new funds) that reflect the diversity of our student population

Table: 2

Issue: 1 -Many students from diverse backgrounds do not have equal access to college.

Recorder: Patti Smith

  • Financial issues, preparation hinder students
  • Fees are creating burden / withdraw for refund
  • We are the first CC with less than 50% of funding from state
  • There is imbalance of funding structure, decreasing budget from state
  • Dual enrollment affected by funding formula
  • Less offerings at the schools and those from a diverse background have barriers coming to college campus
  • Focus a bit of discussion on Age diversity
  • The group supports the design of a future students website
  • Helping students step thru the admission process in a more sucking manner
  • A check list
  • A visual, step-by-step video
  • OSD seeing folks w/ psychological issues
  • Perhaps PTSD
  • Veterans – reading them is an issue
  • If we can no longer be all things to all people, whom should we serve
  • Will we come to this?

Table: 3

Issue: 2 - Many students whose stated goal is to obtain a certificate or a degree are not successful

in reaching critical milestones in their educational plans.

Recorder: Liz Gombash

  • Do AA students have milestones?
  • Yes, but sometimes not in best sequence
  • Example:
  • Prep-students often wait until end to take college level math courses
  • Do students understand the risk / consequence of delaying certain courses?
  • Is there follow up advisement?
  • Not for AA
  • Some faculty advise students
  • Want data re. student success if courses taken consecutively or gap in time
  • Math, reading, writing
  • If there is a difference, need to examine issues more closely
  • Previously did “bundles” (English, math, student success, comp), but did not examine data
  • Could re-do now through linked course design and add reading
  • Linked courses now are only for 1 semester
  • Needs to be more sequential
  • Certificates
  • May or may not require sequence of courses
  • State curriculum frameworks dictates which courses must be taken but not necessarily order
  • Not sure why students take courses “out of order” (does not apply to prerequisites)
  • Could be a money issue
  • Students have a plan, but no follow-up
  • Students toss their plans
  • Need intervention if students fails course for the first time, especially prerequisites
  • We set students on a course – how do we keep them on course?
  • Best students follow up themselves, so don’t need to worry about them
  • Can LifeMap be set up to automatically alert student and advisor when student is going off track from plan?
  • Can remind students of courses needed at registration time?
  • We have daily alert system – 2 years – 3 codes in mid-term
  • To get student to take responsibility, need to explain to students
  • Should UCF faculty come into classes to help explain to students what they need to do
  • Orientation is not necessarily the best time to explain this to students
  • Students don’t really want to hear it then
  • Students currently get notice that financial aid will not pay for courses not in major, but why do they get this notice before they register?
  • Not usually checked until after add/drop
  • They have no choice but to appeal

Table: 4

Issue: 2 - Many students whose stated goal is to obtain a certificate or a degree are not successful

in reaching critical milestones in their educational plans.

Recorder: Elisha Gonzalez-Bonnewitz

  • “Students don’t have a clear path to reach their goals”
  • Need to focus on students who are not performing well
  • We don’t collect information on outgoing students, so we don’t know they have withdrawn
  • Need to capture data of why students are withdrawing
  • Student engagement survey can probably assist us in measuring why students are not performing well.
  • We need Pathways not choices, we focus on students on developmental courses and do we assist in leading them to corridors
  • Too many choices
  • Don’t know where to focus
  • Maybe we need to focus more orientation and be specific on what outcomes are
  • We don’t know our student population who is disadvantaged unless they fill out a FAFSA application
  • How do we serve those first generational students?
  • Focus on when students first enroll to get to know them better
  • Service learning
  • Helpful in placing students in the workforce so they experience it and make decision on doing that career for the long run
  • All college employees are aware of all resources
  • On website
  • Menu on advising issues or who they should speak to
  • LifeMap
  • Students not engaged / difficult for facilitation
  • Work w/ classes where all students are enrolled (tackle these course & talk to students then)
  • Students don’t tell anyone of their changes
  • Students should update (their) major every term so we can assist them in the pathway
  • How do we tap into social network to reach-out and find out how to guide them in career choices?
  • How do we collaborate with workforce dept to provide access and exposure to the pathway to then improve the economic development of our community
  • This will provide prepared workforce
  • Live chat w/ your counselor
  • New student experience committee: focus on giving students support and advising who is supportive
  • Faculty members provide one-on-one counseling under a sough-out consultation level. Not part of curriculum. Maybe we should consider.

Table: 5

Issue: 3 - Gaps in student achievement exist among student cohorts related to ethnicity and

income.

Recorder: Kim Long

  • How helps address:
  • What is lacking:
  • Many students coming in don’t know plans
  • Many students don’t even know what opportunities exist
  • How to help them get through the maze of family pressures?
  • Science options often not supported by some ethnic groups – AT HOME
  • More mentor or modeling of possibilities needed for some of the gap students – shadowing?
  • More strategies need to help students make a plan and set goals
  • More advising in disciplines too, not just the advising office
  • Active exploration of fields available to students
  • Pathways –
  • Before even reaching VCC, start it in the HS
  • Encourage more science / math options that help w/ career choices
  • Create more opportunities for students to explore career fields
  • Family and social expectations
  • Need to find role models
  • Need to get family buy-in
  • Why are the numbers the way they are?
  • NSF may be helpful
  • Non institutional answers?
  • Family, finance other issues – need more follow-up on why students leave
  • College effort to find out why students leave can get more support earlier
  • Is it really related to poor academic standing?
  • Find out if it is academic or other issues
  • Filter the numbers – dropped or moved on (system to capture more info to answer the “why”
  • So many not college ready entering to VCC
  • Withdrawal survey? – before being able to W
  • Who do we need to contact?
  • When transcripts – before completion are requested why!
  • #3
  • UCF transfer – not doing as well
  • Find out from other feeder institutions what their W policy is. What do they do differently?
  • Follow up on why students have trouble after transferring
  • Is there anything we (faculty) can do not to find out why students withdraw
  • Why do we get to the W issue? Why so many need to withdraw?
  • #2
  • What can we do w/ the HS to help w/ the issue?
  • Why is the college ready student taking so long to finish?
  • Need to look to understand those numbers too
  • Share statistics on student w/ VCC F & S
  • Employed FT/PT, single parents, etc. (These may be impacting completion)
  • Run stats in dif ways, not just ethnically
  • May be more factors (variables) impacting it rather than just gaps in preparation
  • Need to address and help students background issues
  • Resources – not used or not aware of them by students
  • #5
  • Resources
  • Not used or not aware of them by students
  • Who else can we use as advisors?
  • We are missing a counseling center
  • More supplemental instruction pure form of S.L.

Table: 6

Issue: 3 - Gaps in student achievement exist among student cohorts related to ethnicity and

income.

Recorder: Joe Lynn Look

  • Closing the Gap
  • ATD – focused on math closing gap (SL Link) gap has been closing for gateway
  • Bridges – data outperforms ATD
  • Support: advising / mentoring / aid / midterm evals
  • How to expand to all students
  • (existing programs like Bridges target small groups
  • DEI brings this to a scale but still focus
  • SL / LinC target small groups
  • Try to have more small groups
  • Must have appropriate resources as expansion takes place
  • STEM focus needed
  • Tutoring services have been expanded
  • Need hard data / stats
  • Tutoring by nursing faculty has been successful
  • Part of faculty workload in nursing
  • Possibility; college wide mentoring
  • Would require extensive resources
  • Take Stock in Children extends mentoring to middle school
  • Need focus on how to best use resources
  • Finance influence graduation
  • So many try to support family / work full time / attend school full time
  • FinAid / Deans need to be more connected
  • Early alert system – find students that are going down the wrong and provide early intervention – w/ faculty & Deans

Table: 7

Issue: 6 - While the College does not control all factors that lead to student success, many students fail to complete their courses with a grade of C or better for reasons potentially under the control of the College.

Recorder: Ruth Prather

  • Support services – tutoring, ______, counselors have helped
  • Can’t control work schedule of students
  • Students with a plan – keeps them moving forward
  • We need to help students get a plan & follow it.
  • Find a balance of support
  • Need more $ for tutoring, writing center, etc.
  • Need to work harder to get students a plan
  • Firs year experience is very important
  • Need to know more why students fail
  • Can we get to students early enough so that students prepare to succeed
  • We agree the college we agree that college can do things that help students stay in college
  • Withdrawal policy should help

Table: 8

Issue: 6 - While the College does not control all factors that lead to student success, many students fail to complete their courses with a grade of C or better for reasons potentially under the control of the College.

Recorder: Sunni Prevatt

  • Prep issues still big in math
  • Not where we want to be
  • Gaps are widening again – don’t know why
  • Difficult to get data due to collection
  • What do we do about “outside factors” (family, etc.)
  • Focused on looking at curriculum to address issues
  • Tutoring, SL, labs
  • Look at what is happening in classes
  • What should they be able to do by the time they’ve completed level classes
  • Some students saying not getting “enough” from instructor/classroom. They’re using labs
  • Are students taking responsibility for their own learning?
  • Expecting to “get it” without the work?
  • Students need to know relevance of material
  • Students need to be advised of course loads and commitments
  • One tutoring place (center) where all levels of need can be addressed
  • Educate students in importance of talking w/ someone prior to making decision to drop / wd [make students have to talk w/ someone prior to dropping] [professor signature required?]
  • Grade anticipation on issue – many students want A’s; a B isn’t good enough
  • Teach about motivation being a choice in the classroom
  • Skill not the only issue
  • Group of students (must have an A only do the minimum)
  • “First day of class sets the tone for the year”
  • Be clear upfront, set expectations
  • Many students aren’t always here because they “want” to be; they “have” to be
  • This affects withdrawal
  • Emphasis on “W” not looking good on transcripts down the road
  • Suggestion
  • Email to professors reminding about talking with students prior to withdrawal deadline
  • Create a new web page [@] valenciacc.edu
  • Withdraw with pertinent info
  • Send right after drop period and again at withdrawal deadline
  • More communication between professor on students with low grade for a discussion
  • On Atlas, “how to”
  • Tips for best practices - for faculty; for resources
  • Faculty use resources (workshops)
  • Adjuncts need training too!
  • Adjuncts make less time to interact with students
  • Pop-up for withdrawal before allowing
  • Don’t make withdrawal so easy

Table: 9

Issue: 4 - The composition of the group that graduates each year does not match the diversity of entering cohorts.

Recorder: Linda Vance

  • Continue to grow the SL program to assist students
  • Important to give vision of Pathways
  • Gap may be widening because of current economic situation
  • Many students returning to work or to school
  • Focus on college readiness – SB1908
  • Fewer full time students because of economy
  • Need to teach college success skills
  • Look into childcare?
  • Children on campus because adults are returning to school
  • Single parents
  • We need to be creative to find ways to help this population
  • Student engagement = Student retention
  • More programs like “Roadmap to Success scholarships”
  • Look at utilizing distance learning to increase student engagement.
  • IR surveys to graduating students
  • Asking what has been most helpful
  • Calls to students who have “stepped out” or dropped out to see why
  • Work with academic probation students
  • Success strategy develops “high touch” contact with students early in 1st two terms
  • Look at scaling up the high touch program to students in prep classes
  • Cohort grouping have proven successful
  • Could we look ad doing more of this? (LinC)
  • LifeMap / Me in the Making
  • Time to re-educate students and staff

Table: 10

Issue: 5 - Diversity is not fully utilized as a strength throughout the curriculum and the College.

Recorder: Donna Marino

  • Tenured program
  • Addressed w/ inclusion and diversity
  • 7 essential comp of educator
  • Woven as a student core competency
  • Also TVCA
  • We have the goals
  • Woven in seven esst. Comp of educator
  • “value” comp for students
  • Now the practice
  • Diversity of thought
  • What does that look like in our hiring practice?
  • Gender / learning styles / age / thought and culture
  • Challenge
  • Effect thought
  • What are we as an institution doing to make sure our educators and leaders reflect the diversity of our students?
  • Is diversity encouraged?
  • Is constant conversation continued?
  • More than just a one day class
  • Creative, innovative, out of the box thinking is required
  • Committees, divisions, cognitive thought, opposing opinions should be welcome and collaborated and understood
  • Get beyond diversity as at threat in meetings
  • Especially of thought
  • Effective change in thought is still required
  • Comfortable “asks” to colleagues need to be expanded to welcome diversity (thought / discipline / culture / gender)
  • Invite cross discipline diversity to committees, hiring committees
  • Invite cross department
  • Change thought, teach communication for cultural competency
  • Need a conversation around issue of cultural competency
  • Define it
  • What does it mean?
  • Deans included for professional development in diversity of thought
  • Expanded professional and staff is an opportunity to infuse diversity of thought and culture competency
  • Awareness that, while there are differences, there are many similarities
  • Would like to see strengths based = value on skill and thought and what an individual brings to the college and meetings
  • Self awareness of ind bias / feelings
  • Need to start in self awareness
  • It’s not enough to bring the right “mix” to the table
  • Enough awareness of “self” to be able to listen to the “mix”
  • Faculty sometimes focus on engagement with students and forget to focus on engagement with each other
  • Are we stuffing 20lbs of tomatoes into a 5lb bag?
  • The infusion of diversity in our community affects partner with community and all of college 4 goals
  • How far are we including cultural competence as a core competence
  • As we look toward concrete prf development, infuse diversity of thought and cultural competence
  • So many dimensions of diversity
  • Should we start with the one aspect as a deeper focus?
  • Understanding individual / self awareness may alight w/ diversity

Table: 11