SCA-J Conference Call – 3rdNovember 2008
Attendees:
Mark Combellack Avaya, Inc. Group Member
Bryan Aupperle IBM Group Member
David Booz IBM Group Member
Vamsavardhana ChillakuruIBM Group Member
Mike Edwards IBM Group Member
Yang Lei IBM Group Member
Simon Nash Individual Group Member
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation Group Member
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation Group Member
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG* Group Member
Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. Group Member
Decisions:
- Minutes of 27th October meeting approved
- JAVA-86 Resolved as per minutes below
- JAVA-42 Resolved as per minutes below
Issue Status:
Open at start of call: 45
Opened Today: 8
Resolved Today: 2
Open at end of call: 51
Actions:
2008-07-15-2: Plamen/Vladimir to produce a proposal for JAVA-2
2008-07-15-9: MikeE to produce worked example of his proposal for JAVA-1, and to show the invocation model for the F2F
2008-10-06-1: Editors to fix all the other remaining ed issues for WD04 pointed out by Mark, SimonN and Vamsi
2008-10-06-2: Anish to work with OASIS Staff to get CD01 published
2008-10-20-1: Simon to write new proposal with textual changes for JAVA-76
2008-11-03-1: Anish to produce an updated proposal for JAVA-39
2008-11-03-2: Simon to produce rewritten section 6.7.1 to resolve JAVA-69 and incorporate other clarifications
2008-11-03-3: Chairs to check with Mary on progress of JAVA-28 resolution
Chat log:
Simon Nash: where is everyone?
Mark Combellack: Having some laptop issues - undocking is causing issues
Mark Combellack: So Simon was a hour early
Mark Combellack: Agenda:
- Roll Call
- Appointment of scribe. List attached below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s)
Issue Status:
Open: 45
1. Review action items:
2008-07-15-2: Plamen/Vladimir to produce a proposal for JAVA-2
2008-07-15-9: MikeE to produce worked example of his proposal for JAVA-1, and to show the invocation model for the F2F
2008-10-06-1: Editors to fix all the other remaining ed issues for WD04 pointed out by Mark, SimonN and Vamsi
2008-10-06-2: Anish Work with OASIS Staff to get CD01 published
2008-10-13-2: Editors to update references to the [ASSEMBLY] style
2008-10-20-1: Simon to write new proposal with textual changes for JAVA-76
2. Logistics for the Face to Face
Attendance, Dial in access, etc
Key issues for the agenda for the Face to Face.
Encourage people to write proposals for any open issues in preparation for the Face to Face
3. Update from JEE Sub Committee Chair (Time boxed to maximum of 5 minutes)
4. Accepting new issues:
JAVA-85: ejb binding @uri has the wrong schema
JAVA-86: Update default EJB version of binding.ejb to EJB3
JAVA-87: Java-related C&I specs needs to define how effective CT is
5. Open issues discussion:
JAVA-42 Incorrect examples of methods annotated @Init and @Destroy
JAVA-39 Incorrect example in Java Component Implementation Spec v1.00 - Sec 1.2.4
JAVA-69 Misleading statement about lifetime of stateful callbacks
JAVA-28 Package Name Changes
JAVA-3 - Local services expose implementation classes as their type
Should introduction of @Local annotation (JAVA-3) affect the Semantics of an Unannotated Implementation
JAVA-73 Incorrect reference to "original request"
JAVA-52 RequestContext.getCallbackReference() description inadequate
JAVA-25 Callback Simplification
6. AOB
Straggler roll call
7. Adjourn
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Rotating scribe list:
Ramkumar Ramalingam (0)
Peter Walker Sun Microsystems (1)
Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems (2)
Peter Peshev SAP AG (2)
Ron Barack SAP AG (3)
Michael Beisiegel IBM (3)
Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3)
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (3)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (3)
Vladimir Savchenko SAP AG (1)
Jim Marino Individual (4)
Meeraj Kunnumpurath Individual (1)
Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (2)
Simon Nash (1)
Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (4)
Mike Edwards IBM (4)
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (5)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (4)
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (1)
Yang Lei (1)
Dave Booz: Hi guys
Mike Edwards: greetings
Mark Combellack: hi
Dave Booz: Mark, are you going to add the new issues to the agenda on the fly?
Mark Combellack: I was going to wait for someone to "bash the agenda"
Mark Combellack: Possibly Mike since the 4 extra new issues are his
Mark Combellack: is anyone else still got the "on hold music"?
Mark Combellack: s/is/Has
Dave Booz: Mike and Plamen and I are on
Dave Booz: redial
Mark Combellack: I'll redial - brb
Dave Booz: ah, you're using the old passcode
Dave Booz: Telecon numbers
DIAL-IN NUMBERS & PASSCODES:
USA Toll Free Number: 877-347-0176
USA Toll Number: +1-719-466-2386
UK Toll Free Number 0 808 101 0915
PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 3336872913
Mark Combellack: nope - I'm using the long one
Mark Combellack: but not that long one - yes using the old one
Mark Combellack: back
anonymous morphed into anish
anish is anyone else getting a low-level buzzing sound?
Mike Edwards: not ne Anish
Mike Edwards: not me
anish i'll hang up and dial in
Dave Booz: i dont hear it either
Simon Nash: Attendance: 90% of voting membership
Simon Nash: scribe: Simon
Simon Nash: agenda bashing
Simon Nash: Mike suggests discussing new issues 88-91
anonymous morphed into Pradeep
Simon Nash: Mark agrees to include them
Simon Nash: minutes approval
Simon Nash: no comments, no objections to accepting
Simon Nash: minutes are approved
Simon Nash: we have 45 open issues
Simon Nash: action items review
Simon Nash: 2008-07-15-2: no progress
Simon Nash: 2008-07-15-9: will be done by end of this week
Simon Nash: 2008-10-06-1: still pending
Simon Nash: 2008-10-06-2: Anish hasn't heard anything
Simon Nash: 2008-10-13-2: done
Simon Nash: 2008-10-20-1: not yet done
Simon Nash: F2F logistics
Simon Nash: 7 people will be attending, 2 dialing in
Simon Nash: "burning" issues for discussion: 25 and 1
Simon Nash: Mark will post his contact details to the list
Simon Nash: we will use the regular dial-in number for the F2F
Simon Nash: JEE update: finished the review, starting to distribute action items
Simon Nash: Mike/Dave have completed theirs
Simon Nash: Plamen/Anish have others still TBD, needing more investigation
Simon Nash: next neeting this Friday
Simon Nash: new issue: JAVA-85
Simon Nash: Dave suggests not discussing this issue today and deferring it for a week
Simon Nash: next issue: JAVA-86
Simon Nash:
Simon Nash: m: Dave s: Mike to open issue 86
Simon Nash: no objection, issue is opened
Simon Nash: unanimously
Simon Nash: m: Dave s: Mike resolve JAVA-86 with proposal in JIRA
Simon Nash: passed with unanimous consent
Simon Nash: next issue: JAVA-87
Simon Nash:
Simon Nash: m: Anish s:Simon open issue 87 with scope limited to Java C&I spec
Simon Nash: accepted unaminously
Simon Nash: action Anish: reaise 2 more issues for the other specs
Simon Nash: Dave suggests taking this action himself
Simon Nash: m: Simon s: Mike create and open 2 issues for Spring and JEE specs
Simon Nash: accepted unanimously
Simon Nash: next issue: JAVA-88
Simon Nash:
Simon Nash: Mike: next 4 issues are recommended by the JEE subcommittee
Simon Nash: m: Mike s: Plamen open issue 88
Simon Nash: passed with unanimous consent
Simon Nash: next issue: JAVA-89
Simon Nash:
Simon Nash: m: Mike s: Anish open issue 89
Simon Nash: passed with unanimous consent
Dave Booz: Simon, Issues 92 and 93 have been opened as per motion from Issue 87 discussion
Simon Nash: Thanks, Dave
Simon Nash: next issue: JAVA-90
Simon Nash:
Simon Nash: m: Mike s: Plamen open JAVA-90
Simon Nash: passed with unanimous consent
Simon Nash: Mike suggests resolving immediately, Dave would like an offline discussion
Simon Nash: next issue: JAVA-91
Simon Nash:
Simon Nash: m: Mike s: Plamen open JAVA-91
Simon Nash: passed with unanimous consent
Simon Nash: open issue discussion
Simon Nash: issue JAVA-42
Simon Nash: JAVA-42 Incorrect examples of methods annotated @Init and @Destroy
Simon Nash: discussion about whether we should use the public modifier
Simon Nash: m: Mark s: Mike Resolve JAVA-42 by adding the word "public" at the start of line 1202
Simon Nash: in the CD draft
Simon Nash: passed without objection
Simon Nash: JAVA-39 Incorrect example in Java Component Implementation Spec v1.00 - Sec 1.2.4
Simon Nash: action Anish: draft a proposal for HAVA-39
Simon Nash: s/HAVA/JAVA/
anish: what does 'backend' mean here?
Vamsi: (My cell phone service provider is giving me a hard time today with the calls I got dropped from the call and don't know how long it will take to reconnect. )
Dave Booz: I heard you, so you will get credit for attendance
anish: this is what it says "An implementation of the service in this example could use the @Callback annotation to request
that a stateful callback be injected. The following is a fragment of an implementation of the
example service. In this example, the request is passed on to some other component, so that the
example service acts essentially as an intermediary. If the example service is conversation scoped, the callback will still be available when the backend service sends back its asynchronous response."
anish: if the interface is conversational, doesn't the impl scope have to be conversational?
Simon Nash: action Simon: produce rewritten section 6.7.1 to resolve JAVA-69 and clarify various problems
Vamsi: I hope you got my attendance in
Vamsi: bye bye.
Simon Nash: action chairs: check with Mary on progress of issue 28 resolution
Simon Nash: straggler roll call: Martin, Vamsi
Simon Nash: meeting adjourned