Review IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures

March 2005doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/0324r0

IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs

Thursday, March 17, 2005

Call to Order

Meeting called to order on Thursday, March 17, 2005 by Clint Chaplin at 4:04 pm.

Chair: Clint Chaplin

Secretary: Sandy Turner

Review IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures

Chair showed the two slides requested by the WG chair: “IEEE SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards” and “Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings”.

Chair: Are there any questions?

None.

Chair: Are there any issues from the January meeting?

None.

Chair: Are there any objections to approving the minutes?

None.

Chair: Seeing none, the minutes are approved. As a reminder, do your attendance.

Agenda discussion

Proposed Agenda (11-05/0289r1):

• Minutes

– Approval of Minutes of January 2005 Meeting - 11-05-0098-00-0jtc-jtc1-ad-hoc-meeting-minutes-january-2005-session.doc

• Approve Agenda

• Status report

• Submission of 802.1X to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6

• Ask to have IEEE 802.11 JTC1/SC6 Ad-Hoc committee through July 2005 Plenary

• Authorize weekly teleconferences to resolve P8802.11i fast track ballot comments

– weekly on Tuesdays at 1900 ET starting at June 14 and continuing through July 26

• Work on text for Roger Marks liaison letter to various organizations in China.

• Next steps for IEEE 802.11

– Recommend to appoint Alex Cheng as IEEE 802.11 liaison to CCSA.

– Meeting in China

• Adjourn

Chair: The agenda is before you. Roger, when do you have to go?

Comment: Not until 7.

Chair: Are there any comments on the proposed agenda or changes?

None.

Chair: Are there any objections to approving the agenda?

None.

Chair Status

Key points included:

• P8802.11i was suspended for one month to allow questions. The suspension ended March 15th and the ballot closes June 9th. The web site has not been updated with this information.
• Comments and resolutions will be handled by this committee. The resolutions must be completed before the July meeting and approved by the full Working Group before they are submitted to JTC1.
• 802.1X, which is referenced by 802.11i, will not be submitted to ISO due to things such as 802.1 workload and limited resources. This has been a policy for 802.1 since 1998. A Class A JTC1 liaison, in which any standard that comes up would become an ISO standard, is also being investigated. IEEE is currently a Class C liaison to JTC1.

Comment: Can you give a brief review of the Frankfurt trip?

Chair’s key points:

• There was an ad hoc meeting to talk about the technical issues of WLAN security with members from various national bodies.
• The first two days were procedural discussions. IEEE then gave two technical presentations (technical aspects of WAPI – 30 minutes, technical aspects of 802.11i – 6 hours), and a presentation expanding on the response letter from IEEE 802 to ISO JTC6/SC1.
• The Chinese left Wednesday mid-morning before the IEEE technical presentations.
• WAPI is not a submission right now.

Comment: My impression was WAPI was a new project request that needed to be on the ballot for SC6 before it could be moved to JTC1. It was never put on the agenda for SC6 ballot and went no further.

MOTION: Authorize IEEE 802.11 JTC1 Ad-Hoc Committee weekly teleconferences to resolve P8802.11ii fast track ballot comments, Tuesdays at 1900-2000 ET (2300-2400 UTC) starting at June 14 and continuing through July 26.

By: Dorothy Stanley

Second: Alex Cheng

Result: Yes-13, No-0, Abstatin-4

Work on text for Roger Marks liaison letter to various organizations in China

Key points included:

• Roger Marks reviewed and received input on drafts of 3 letters he will submit to MII, CCSA and CESI. He gave a background on each of the organizations, some prior communications and key contacts.
• There was a 5 minute recess during the discussion.
• The letters will be forwarded to Stuart Kerry and then discussed at the EC meeting tomorrow.
• Based on feedback, a new model will be used to setup meetings outside North America. Instead of IEEE people doing the scouting, we will first find a host, tell them our specs and then let them make a proposal. Face-to-face will still do the local details.
• We want to start a liaison relationship with CCSA. Desired characteristics include the following: native speaker, someone at the 802.11 officer level.

MOTION: Recommend to the IEEE 802.11 WG Chair that Alex Cheng be appointed to liaison from IEEE 802.11 to CCSA.

By: Henry Ptasinski

Second: Ho-In Jeon

Result: Yes-7, No-1, Abstatin-4

Chair: We’ve covered everything in the agenda. Is there anything else? We’re also investigating contacts with the TAG for voting on ISO JCT1, who have been abstaining. There is no technical knowledge within the TAG. Is there a motion to adjourn?

By: Dorothy Stanley

Second: Henry Ptasinski

Chair: Are there any objections to adjourning?

None

Chair: Seeing none, we’re adjourned.

Adjourn 5:52pm

Attendees:

Clint Chaplin

Alex Cheng

Sebastien Dure

Jon Edney

Fred Haisch

Haixiang He

Russ Housley

Jari Jokela

Roger Marks

Andrew Myles

Paul Panich

Yaron Peleg

Henry Ptasinski

Emily Qi

Dorothy Stanley

Fabrice Stevens

Sandy Turner

References:

Submissionpage 1Sandy Turner, LANL