Committee:Personnel Management TC

Co-Chairs:Bernd Blobel, Frank Oemig

Author:Frank Oemig

HL7 Winter Working Group Meeting – San Diego, CA

Minutes of the Personnel Management TC Meeting

held Monday-Thursday, January 7-10, 2002

1List of Attendees

PM only sessions:

Name / Institution / Email
Frank Oemig / HL7 Germany
KIS Laufenberg /
Bernd Blobel / HL7 Germany
University of Magdeburg /
Jean Spohn / Group Health /
Ken Rubin
(part) / EDS/Veterans Health Administration /
Robin Zimmerman / Kaiser Permanente /
Van L. Nguyen (part) / Kaiser Permanente /

Joint meeting with MnM (Monday morning):

Name / Institution / Email
Frank Oemig / HL7 Germany
KIS Laufenberg /
Bernd Blobel / HL7 Germany
University of Magdeburg /
Dave Nelson / Oracle /
Woody Beeler / Beeler Consulting /
David Markwell / Clinical Information Consultancy /
Tim Benson / Office of E-Envoy /
Groff Roberts / Science & Eng.Assoc. /
Jean Spohn / Group Health /
Sergei Semenov / Oracle Corporation /
Heath Frankel / HL7 Australia /
Igor Garrynshkin / Oracle Corp. /
Rick Haddorf / Mayo Foundation /
Judith Warren / Univ. of Kansas School of Nursing /
Edgar Glück / Kith. Norway /
Anita Benson / Data Scene /
Mike Davies / VHA /
Sam Heard / Fundus University (St.Aus) /
Abdul-Malik Shakir / Shakir Consulting /
Robin Zimmerman / Kaiser Permanente /

Joint meeting with Security and Accountability (Tuesday morning):

Name / Institution / Email
Glen Marshall / Siemens /
Frank Oemig / HL7 Germany
KIS Laufenberg /
Bernd Blobel / HL7 Germany
University of Magdeburg /
Ken Rubin / EDS/Veterans Health Administration /
Ed Larsen / ER Larsen, Inc. /
Mike Davies / VHA /
Blair Cockerline / Univ. of Washington /
Robin Zimmerman / Kaiser Permanente /
Barry Rhodes / CDC /
Steve Fire / Cerner /
Bill Drummond / IDX /
John Moehrke / GE /
Amy Page / VHA /
Shelly Qian / Oracle /
Jean Spohn / Group Health /
Lawrence Tarbox / Siemens /
Chad Xen / HL7 Taiwan /

2Points Discussed

First, the agenda and the last meeting minutes have been approved.

The first quarter of Monday has been used to discuss the current approach about how to assemble the information for certificates using classes from the RIM.

The joint meeting with MnM in the second quarter on Monday which has been arranged spontaneously should discuss the next steps with respect to how the CMETs can be harmonised. This discussion resulted in preparing a set of CMETs which can be submitted to the CMET task force on Thursday afternoon.

The afternoon session on Monday has been used to discuss the details on the CMETs. It became obvious that we had to refine the state transitions to introduce an inactive state. In a side discussion with Dale Nelson a first step towards harmonisation has been done.

The joint session with security and accountability SIG has been used to discuss the prepared CMET for certificates. The presentation got broad support by the audience, almost everybody felt that the approach is in good harmony with the RIM.

During Wednesday morning it has been determined that the generic approach for a certificate can easily be extended to be used for assignments, too.

On Thursday morning a discussion on employment took place.

The CMET task force met to collect all available CMETs for harmonisation and publication on Thursday afternoon. Bernd explained our CMETs once more. The audience felt that it fits excellent to the RIM.

It requires a closer harmonisation among the different TCs.

In an early morning discussion with members from PA TC it became obvious that PM owns the staff part of a person as well as organisations and locations. PA TC takes care of the patient role.
Furthermore PA will only refer to practitioners for identification purposes.

PM will divide the contents on two different domains: the personnel management items within the practice sub-section and master files (location).

2.1Discussion of v2.x change proposals (Wednesday afternoon)

Adjust the certificate segment to include a field for inactivation date.

Add missing field definitions for the certificate segment.

Add additional table values to a table for STF segment.

3Follow-up Items and Assignments

The results of the discussion will uploaded to the PM web site.

Distribution of the final v2.5 draft.

Distribution of an updated V3 document as soon as possible to get feedback.

Submission of storyboards and use cases by KP.

Preparation of the V3 material into the publications database within the next two weeks to meet the publishing deadlines (2nd committee level ballot).

4Schedules for the Next Meeting

PM TC plans two one day meetings on Monday and Thursday and Wednesday morning. At Tuesday, the joint meeting with Security will be scheduled and on Wednesday PM will host a joint meeting with PA TC.

Agenda:

  1. Reconciliation of v2.5 balloting.
  2. Discussion of new 2.x proposals.
  3. Discussion of v3 ( CMETs, ..).
  4. Discussion of the PM approach with related TCs and SIGs.