PACE Dialogue Session – UCDavis, February 20, 2013 – Room # 4
These are the raw notes, representing the sequence of the conversation. Comments cross-over key topics.
ACTION ITEMS
- Align merit and promotion evaluation with land-grant mission expectations
- Training for new hires, linked to mentorship. Both formal/informal. On topics including: informal rules and practices between advisors/specialists/AES faculty, MyTravel, etc.
- Engaged Scholarship- learn and implement so that
- Work has relevance to particular place/clientele
- Research is applied to that group
- Provide an update on where we are with the issue of equivalent status
- *Fund workgroups like before
- Better explain/define Strategic Initiatives’ justification, purpose and how it provides financial security
- *Establishmentor program w/ established protocol and assigned mentors (don’t leave Advisors to look for their own mentors)
- Equity review for new specialists (off campus)
CLIENTELE
- Private extenders (e.g. PCAs)
- Changed from Farm Adv. to deliverables from grants
- Was who contacted me and asked for help now depends on grant that funds work
- NSF grantsdefine clientele
- Can be farm adv.; whoever needs help
- Two-way “clientele”- I learn from everyone
- Clientele is the extension component= farm advisors/processors/industry
- Clientele was defined in position description: mine is youth
- Beekeepers + govt. agencies (CDFA, EPA, etc.) + Farm Advisor [they are a priority]
- Public that you serve (policy makers, funding agencies, mission based)
- Not trained for this though: how do we create common messages
- Vacuum when new hires don’t do what’s expected and instead work on grant-funded work
- Landowners, land managers, policy makers but define broadly
- Specialists: Farm Advisors ask questions; notify of trials/on-going research; be good to work with [Specialists do view Farm Advisors as someone to work w/ plusFarm Advisors need to work well w/Specialists)
- Early focused networking/training needed
- Find common interests to find people to work with – Specialists affiliated more w/ dept?
- Specialists in dept. is better for network/continuum from faculty point of view
- Some feel broke network
- Clientele evolves over time
- Advancement expectations
- Who determines? Who clientele is isnot evaluated
- Value of work less than funding driven/advancement expectations (publications vs. client calls)
- Extension not valued for merit/promotion as Specialist
- Rewards are vague vs. mission
- Need recognition beyond publications
- No Advisor input
- Not always what you got into it for
- Extension is valued
- Pulled many ways, larger areas covered
- Less of us to do things, esp. to keep connections w/ clientele, need to replace lost positions
- Graduate students
- Growers [think of as part of continuum]
- Continuum important for addressing clientele
- No continuum for some
- Communication very important for clientele
- Communication in continuum so everyone is aware of it
ROLES AND RELATIONSHIPS
- CA very different from other states – Farm Advisors like Specialists – Specialists like faculty
- Farm Advisors are expected to do lots – that’s okay
- Shrinking numbers so this is what is being done (i.e., Farm advisors becoming “Specialists”)
- Roles are changing = this is good
- If vacuum (no person or expertise there) may be filled by others in different roles
- Be proud of UC extension program
- Advisors get good and not good responses from faculty. What contributes?
- Distance to interact
- Do you have funding?
- Time to cultivate relationship
- For faculty, Advisors out in the field have contacts to help develop research, different expertise to draw upon, very collaborative
- Number of faculty that function like Specialists
- New faculty hires: their specialty doesn’t match Advisor needs/scale of experience too big
- New hire focus too broad for working with Advisors
- Advisors contact UC faculty at non-land grant Universities but they don’t know who UCCE or ANR is
Ideal roles?
- Blur betweenFaculty and Specialists in some departments (but depends on the department)
- Way to recognize Specialist activities needs to be better defined
- Connect research w/ outreach
- Education
- Know this when hiring
- Farm Advisors: know what’s going on/trends
- Faculty: keep up w/ technology (more intense)
- Specialists: informed on general field through meetings; reading journal articles
- No back and forth between Specialists and Faculty in merit review. Who votes on merit in each Department? Is it consistent? Academic Federation vs. Senate?
- Faculty respect extension
- Hierarchy/structure may be driving a wedge between – need to be informed
- Specialists are the bridge between basic vs. applied questions
- Concern over department changes to appointments and how it will impact what gets done/how things are valued
COLLABORATION
- Mentorship to increase collaboration
- Bring back workgroups
- Don’t like initiatives, program teams
- Program areas don’t fall into initiatives
- Cross-pollination not happening under, in it
- Collaboration happening on blogs, but is it rewarded?
- Pay scale differences when pool is equivalent and work done is similar
- Would need PhD min. requirement
- But regional responsibility so maybe necessary to do
- Those that work w/ volunteer programs will have to coordinate too large a group – some Master GardenerCoordinators are 4H Coordinators too
- Increase in responsibilitiesare increased barriers to collaboration
- May increase collaboration though by asking others for help
- Hire people w/collaboration in mind and hire where new person is not alone so opportunitiesfor collaboration
- w/multi-county hiring: consider the person’s personality to do more
- Internal grants foster collaboration
PROGRAM PLANNING
- Grant proposal work will get done by business unit how? Mechanism to process grants needs to get better
- need mechanism also apart from campus
- Bring back workgroups – use funding from initiative
- What is the goal/outcome of the initiatives –need to better define purpose
- Big ANR meeting stifles open dialogue and academic freedom
- Not comfortable w/ idea that Initiativespurpose was to leverage money to find more money
- Top down decisions but instead should be more/continuous involvement from those doing the work
- No clear way for Specialists/Farm Advisors to help harness industry opportunities to fund/fill ANR/campus positions
- There is a disconnect between leadership and scientists to build collaborationand program planning – lack of communication, dialogue, listening
- What will change with new president/will we have to do this again?
- No mentor at first hire – some have, some don’t
- Have to actively pursue money for mentorship (need to ask, but in order to ask, need to know funds exist)
- No set mentor protocol – assign people because it can be too hard to find a mentor on your own
- New Advisor/Specialist manual
- Bring back internship program with Farm Advisors (e.g.,Almond Board funded pomologist)
- Specialists on campus importantfor collaboration – weakness network (known issue)
- Specialists can’t hire post doc or have grad student when not on campus
- Can’t do normal process (e.g., equipment)
- How will they be evaluated?
- Lack of clarity with job description level to candidates
- How will non-campus Specialists function?
- Why is this necessary? It creates more separation within the network/continuum
- Response to what leadership heard from counties (to have non-campus specialists)
- Affiliation with campus doesn’t mean physical location has to be on campus
- It is more work (attending meetings, collaboration, teaching)
- How has position description for Specialists change over time? Campus doesn’t see position description when hiring; need more communication between ANR and campus on prioritizing positions and development of position descriptions.
- Support and develop a process for getting new field stations
MEETING EVALUATION
What Worked Well?+ / What Would Make It Better?
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Great job facilitating / Breakfast - don’t say you’ll do something and then don’t
Mix of attendees in groups good / More time on front end to go through day/agenda/charge
Small groups worked well / Give out pie charts/stats to groups
Good to hear about Specialist issues as Farm Advisors/different perspectives / Not sure on goals of meeting
Very positive group / In this room weighted with specialist and faculty
Lots of farm, less 4H- mix was off balance
Give out the agenda ahead of time
Two recorders
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