Not-for-credit = formerly “community education” classes / no strict rules

  • offerings are dependent on community needs/wants
  • local decision on process to implement new courses
  • no apportionment from the state
  • no Chancellor’s Office oversight of curriculum, programs, etc.

Noncredit =10 specific categories that can be offered as noncredit (primary & secondary basic skills, ESL, CTE, citizenship)

  • must comply with Title V and Ed code regulations, which includes equal student support services (as required by law for credit programs) to be provided by institution (placement, counseling, academic support—tutoring, etc.)
  • All course outlines must be approved by the local academic senate process (curriculum committee), the local governing board, Chancellor’s Office. (Part of the problem in this case is that the COR was changed after approval by the curriculum process and sent to board for approval with the change. We need to ensure that doesn’t happen again. The Board is “relying primarily” on the Senate for curriculum issues, so it should have been approved by the board as sent by the curriculum process. But even if there was some disagreement there should be no “line item veto power” of portions of the COR. If there is a problem, the curriculum could have been sent back for more “collegial consultation.”)
  • Chancellor’s Office oversight of curriculum, programs, min quals—everything same as credit courses & programs

Apportionment:

  • stand-alone course receives 2/3apportionment
  • 2 or more courses in a program leading to Certificate of Completion (appvd by Chancellor’s Office) receive enhanced funding OR equalapportionment (must be in one of five areas of Career Development and College Prep)

Link to excellent PowerPoint State Academic Senate area meeting on noncredit 3-2015

  • Hartnell needs to have a campus-wide discussion on noncredit needs and goals.
  • Excellent models we should investigate –Mira Costa, Mission, San Diego City

Hartnell has only 2 noncredit ESL courses

below lowest level of Hartnell’scredit ESL offerings.

duplicate offerings at area adult schools—in direct conflict with goals of local AEBG (Adult Ed Block Grant/AB104) consortium.

Arguments that “undocumented students need to be served” OR “these noncredit ESL courses are necessary for the Dreamers” are ridiculous.

Dreamers (SB540) are undocumented students who’ve attended 3+ years of middle or high school and have earned a high school diploma or GED. These students are eligible for resident tuition at Hartnell.

(Undocumented) students who’ve attended 3 or more years of school in the U.S. are NOT going to take those low levels of ESL. Most are fluent speakers and will take a regular English class. Those that elect an ESL course usually place into our top two levels equivalent to English 253 and 101.

Other undocumented students in our community can attain “dreamer” status by attending the Salinas Adult School for 3 years and earning a GED. They can then come to Hartnell and take any course and pay resident tuition. We are not serving them by teaching one semester (two 8-week sessions) of noncredit ESL; in fact, we are doing them a disservice if they hope to earn a degree or certificate here.