May 2010doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/xxxr1

IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs

802.11 TGafteleconference May 11th 2010 Minutes
Date: 2010-5-11
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / Email
Rich Kennedy / Research In Motion Corporation / 7305 Napiet Trail
Austin, TX 78729 / +1-972-207-3554 /
Peter Ecclesine / Cisco Systems / 170 W. Tasman Dr., San Jose, CA 95134-1706 / +1-408-527-0815 /
Zhou Lan / NICT / 3-4, Hikarino-oka, Yokosuka, 239-0847, Japan / +81-46-847-5110 /

May11, 2010 PM 8:00-9:30 EDT,25in attendance

Agendarefer to

  1. Richard Kennedy (RIM) is the chair of the group.Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) is the vice-chair of the group.Chair called meeting to order: 8:00pm EDT.
  1. Agenda of the teleconference is reviewed and approved with unanimous consent.
  1. Introduction
  2. Chair welcomed participants to the Task Groupteleconference.
  3. Chair introduced the officers of the group.
  4. Chair: Rich Kennedy (Research In Motion)
  5. Vice-chair, Technical Editor and Webex Facilitator: Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)
  6. Recording Secretary: Zhou Lan (NICT)
  7. Chair reminded participants to record their attendance by sending mails to , and .
  1. Administrative items
  2. Chair presented the links for the documents related with the administrative items.
  3. Chair reviewed the patent policy and meeting guideline slides. Is there anyone who is not familiar with the IEEE Patent Policy? None.
  4. Chair asked: Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard? None.
  5. Chair reviewed other guidelines for IEEE WG meetings.
  1. Chair reviewed the PAR Scope and Purpose, Purpose, Principles and Vision/Outcome.
  1. Motion to approve 802.11 TGaf minutes of April 13th teleconferences: 11-10-0516-00-00af-april-27th-teleconference-minutes (Posted May9th)

•Moved by:Paul Lambert (Marvell)Seconded by: Chen Sun (NICT)

•Passes with unanimous consent

  1. Chair reviewed the outcome of the previous teleconferences, March 30th teleconference, April 13thteleconference, April 27th teleconference.
  1. Chair presented the plan from D0.02 to D0.03. It is confirmed by the chair that Beijing meeting will start by approving D0.02, and then comments and submission received on D0.02 will be discussed to move forward to D0.03.
  2. Padam Kafle (Nokia) asked if the comments received on current technical review will be discussed in Beijing.
  3. Chair responded D0.02 will be firstly approved and then the comments will be looked at.
  1. Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) reviewed the operating class changes in TGmb and TGs and 512r0.
  1. Peter Ecclesine reviewed the enablement changes in submission 513/r1.
  2. Padam Kafle asked except for reallocation of section 11.11 if there are other changes.
  3. Peter Ecclesine responded that there are related definition changes. The descriptions of the procedure are changed as well.
  4. Paul Lambert asked if the approach is trying to make the mechanism specific for the TVWS band rather than generic mechanism.
  5. Peter Ecclesine responded that this modification actual movesthe specific function for the 11y band to Annex J.2.1 so the procedure can be used for TVWS band. The text in 11.11 becomesgeneric for the operation regardless of band.
  6. Kaberi Banerjee (Self) asked if the comments on D0.02 relating to this topic should be discarded.
  7. Peter Ecclesine responded that in D0.02 there is no text mentioning the changes in section 11.11. The comments should go to the base standard and all the related amendmentsplus D0.02.
  8. Winston Calwell (Fox) asked if allowing enabling signal not from the air violates the regulatory rules.
  9. Chair responded whatever we do in the standard needs to follow the laws.
  1. Eunsun Kim (LGE) presented the document 11-10-0472r2.
  2. Paul Lambert raised an observation that the proposed text contains information of millimeter wave and the speaker guessed the approach is trying to make 11af align with 11ad.
  3. VenkatesanGanesh (Intel) said this text actually comes from one of the 11ad submission.
  4. Eunsun Kim said the intention of this submission is trying to align with 11ad, and the text brings similar function to 11af and 11ad.
  5. Zhou Lan (NICT) questioned about the necessity of aligning 11af with 11ad by quoting the scope, purpose of 11af.
  6. Chair posted the purpose of the group and point out the proposed text is not in the scope of 11af
  7. VenkatesanGanesh asked if 11af will operate only in TVWS or in both TVWS and 2.4GHz band.
  8. Peter Ecclesine responded 11af will operate in other bands but not in a way like the text proposed. The text proposed is for solving the problem in 11ad not in 11af.
  9. Chair said 11af will not be responsible for the task group that will complete after 11af.
  1. Peter Ecclesine presented the document 11-10-0514r0.
  2. Eunsun Kim said the existing information element is sufficient, there is no need to introduce new information element.
  3. Peter Ecclesine responded the usage of public action frame should be studied to understand the proposal.
  4. Eunsun Kim asked why this proposal needs to replace the already submitted proposal.
  5. Peter Ecclesine responded there is no replacement, it is adding on.
  1. Other business
  2. Hou-Shin Chen (Technicolor) asked if there is a chance in Beijing for new proposals.
  3. Chair responded the submissions need to give people enough time for reviewing. Chair encouraged submitting the proposals as comments.
  1. Chair asked if there is any other business, hearing none, we are adjourned at 9:30pmEDT.

Attendees:

Name (affiliation) [email]

Richard Kennedy (RIM), chair (RIM) [

Peter Ecclesine, Vice-chair (Cisco Systems) [

Zhou Lan, Secretary (NICT) [

Padam Kafle (Nokia) [

Tuncer Baykas (NICT) [

C.S. Sum (NICT) [

Chen SUN (NICT) [

Winston Caldwell (Fox Technologies) [

Bochow, Bernd [

Chen Hou-Shin (Technicolor)[

Jae-Hyung Song (LGE)[

안토니[

강현덕[

George A VLANTIS (ST) [

Auluck, Vijay (Intel)[

Su Khiong Yong (Marvell)[

Venkatesan, Ganesh (Intel)[

Naotaka Sato [

Meng Wah (I2r) [

Kaberi Banerjee (Self) [

Vajira Samarasooriya (WiLAN) [

Vijay Auluck (Intel Corporation) [

Su Khiong Yong (Marvell) [

Eunsun Kim (LG Electronics) [

Alex Reznik (Interdigital) [

Minutespage 1Zhou Lan (NICT)