May 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/0377r0

IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs

TGT Teleconference Minutes for May 5, 2005
Date: 2005-05-5
Author:
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Tom Alexander / VeriWave, Inc / 9600 SW Oak St.
Suite 380
Portland, OR 97223 / +1 503 473 8358 /

Abstract

This document contains the meeting minutes from the TGT Task Group Teleconference on May 5, 2005.


Minutes page 3 Tom Alexander, VeriWave

May 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/0377r0

Recorded attendees (more may have attended – please send updates to TG Chair):

Wright, Charles

Kobayashi, Mark

Victor, Dalton

Foegelle, Michael

Lemberger, Uriel

Tolpin, Sasha

Goel, Sachin

Alexander, Tom

Emmelmann, Marc

Proceedings:

Charles began the teleconference at 9.00 AM. Tom Alexander was appointed secretary for the teleconference. The minutes for the previous teleconference were approved by acclamation.

Charles mentioned that he'd been trying to get a presentation from Roger Skidmore on identifying metrics useful for a planner or installer for this teleconference, but was not successful due to logistics issues. He also noted that Tom had placed a draft on the members-only web page, and reviewed the requirements for accessing the draft.

Charles then asked the participants whether they would be attending in Cairns. Sasha, Mark Kobayashi and Uriel said that they would attend; the rest said that they would not be able to make it.

Charles then began a discussion on metrics and methodologies, as well as a discussion on test environments. He mentioned that he had requested that someone might provide a presentation on the philosophy of test environments.

Michael Foegelle then proposed that he could present a contribution on why one could perform cabled test and why/when it would be comparable to open-air tests.

Charles then asked if there were other subjects that could be presented regarding metrics and environments. He inquired as to whether anyone would want to take a crack at these definitions. He mentioned that there was some previous definition work on test conditions and DUT configuration. There was some discussion. Tom brought up a reference to document 11-04/1226r1 which had definitions for configuration parameters and test conditions, and read out the definitions. He said that he would start a reflector discussion with a view to providing material that could be adopted at Cairns.

Charles then asked if people had a clear idea of what to do next. Michael Foegelle remarked wryly that the question was whether people had the same idea of what to do next. Charles then went over some of the goals and aims of the group, as reflected in discussions in previous meetings. He noted that a full end-to-end description of the quality-of-service parameters that we need characterized for a wireless system would be handy. He brought up the issue of quantifying range, AP capacity and BSS transition time, among others.

Charles then asked what he could do to inspire people. Marc asked about velocity of mobiles, and whether this would be a secondary metric or a test condition, and how this could be brought in. Charles suggested selecting a small number of scenarios, such as moving towards the DUT, or in a direction tangential to the DUT. Marc said that this would be a start.

Tom suggested drawing up a list of topics that people could work on, so that people could find smaller things to do and not feel compelled to bring in an entire presentation on the whole document. Tom suggested that Charles' document 11-04/1202r0 could be resuscitated, as it was quite relevant to the group now. Charles said that he could have that document revised for the next Thursday teleconference, and we could discuss it then. He said that if he made good headway he'd just upload it to the reflector.

Charles then asked if there was any other discussion. There was none, so he closed the teleconference.

Teleconference ended at 9.45 AM PST.

Action Items:

Charles to draw upon the list of topics in 11-04/1202r0 and if possible circulate to the group an updated list of work items.

Next Conference Call:

TBD after the May meeting.

Minutes page 3 Tom Alexander, VeriWave