March2012doc.: IEEE 802.11-12/0381r0
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2012-03-12
Author(s):
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Stephen McCann / Research in Motion (RIM) UK Ltd / 200 Bath Road, Slough, Berkshire, SL1 3XE, UK / +44 1753 667099 /
IEEE 802.11 Plenary Meeting – Session #132
Hilton Waikoloa, Waikoloa, HI, USA
March12th – 16th, 2012
IEEE 802.11Opening Plenary, Monday 12thMarch2012
Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell Semiconductor) opened the meeting at 11:04HAST.
Jon RosdahlVice-chair 1 (VC1)CSR
Adrian StephensVice-chair 2 (VC2)Intel
Stephen McCannSecretaryResearch in Motion
There are 298 voting members of IEEE 802.11
- Approve/modify joint opening agenda(11-12-0181r2)
1.1.Chair: This is the main agenda for the week and shows the allocation of meetings to time slots.
1.2.Chair: Any modifications to the agenda? None seen.
1.3.No objection to the approval of the agenda.
- January2012 (Jacksonville) WG Minutes(11-12-0083r1)
2.1.Move to approve the January2012 minutes
2.2.Moved: Stephen McCann, 2nd: Stuart Kerry
2.3.Following neither discussion nor dissent the minutes were approved by unanimous consent.
- Notices
3.1.Please note that photographs and recording devices are not allowed in these meetings and put cell phones to vibrate please.
- Attendance
4.1.Please can you remember to login and register your attendance.
4.2.8 people attended this meeting for the first time out of 160 people in the room.
4.3.Chair: Please note that there is a newcomer training session will be after lunch at 13:30 in room “Kona 2”
- Financials (11-12-0211r1)
5.1.VC1: For the Okinawa, Japan Meeting, we have had 2 very generous sponsors and we hope to return to Japan in the future. Therefore the excess from that meeting will be used for Japan and held by the sponsor until we return.
5.2.The Jacksonville meeting also returned a surplus.
5.3.No questions
- Policy and Procedures(ec-12-0005-03)
6.1.VC1: There are two documents which now capture proposed LMSC changes. These will be discussed on Wednesday, by the 802 ExCom, if you are interested. They then intend to vote on these during the ExCom meeting on Friday.
6.2.These documents are in the EC document area on mentor:
6.3.VC1: Regarding patent information, please view for IEEE-SA patent information and also 11-12-0045r1.
6.4.The VC1 called for essential patents information.
6.5.No statements were made.
6.6.VC1: I would also like to mention other guidelines for this meeting.
6.7.Chair: Also, there is also a link to the LoA database in 11-12-0183r0
6.8.(
6.9.No questions
- Announcements(11-12-182r1)
7.1.Missing chairs and replacements
7.1.1.Please note that several groups are missing officers this week. Names in grey are those people who could not attend.
7.1.2.Michael Montemurro will be temporary chair for ARC this week, as Mark Hamilton is not available.
7.1.3.No questions
7.2.Joint Meetings this week
7.2.1.Chair: On Thursday afternoon, there is an 11aa/11ae meeting. This is not a joint meeting, but a split meeting of 1 hour each.
7.2.2.There will be a joint meeting between 11aa and IEEE 802.1AVB on Thursday morning.
7.3.PAR Meetings this week
7.3.1.Chair: There are some PAR meetings this week, to review the PARs of the other IEEE 802 Working Groups (WG).
7.3.2.There is a long list this week:
- 802.1AX-rev, revision to 802.1AX link aggregation, PAR and 5C
- 802.1Qbu, amendment for frame preemption, PAR and 5C
- 802.1AEbw, amendment for extended packet numbering, PAR and 5C
- 802.1Xbx, amendment for MAC security key agreement protocol (MKA) extensions, PAR and 5C
- 802.1Qbv, amendment for enhancements for scheduled traffic, PAR and 5C
- 802.3bk, amendment for extended Ethernet Passive Optical Networks (ExEPON), PAR and 5C
- 802.21d amendment for multicast group management, PAR and 5C
- 802.15.4n amendment for China medical band, PAR and 5C
- 802.15.4p amendment for positive train control (PTC), PAR and 5C
- 802.15.8 new standard for peer aware communications (PAC), PAR and 5C
- If you are interested in any of them, please come along to one of the PAR sessions, chaired by Jon Rosdahl. Otherwise, please send him an email. These will then be reviewed during the IEEE 802.11 closing plenary.
7.4.Meeting Rooms and other IEEE 802 meetings(11-12-0183r0)
7.4.1.Chair: Please note that this is a plenary, whereas we have always been here during an interim. Therefore there are some special meeting rooms outside this dedicated convention area. IEEE 802.18 is meeting in another area (“Bellavista”), which is underneath the “Kirin” restaurant. Furthermore IEEE 802.21 and 802.22 are meeting in Ocean Tower.
7.4.2.However IEEE 802.11 meetings are all in this area.
7.4.3.Agendas for other working groups are available.
7.5.May 2012 in Atlanta, Georgia, USA
7.5.1.Chair: Please note that the hotel booking and registration are now both open.
7.6.Officer Elections(11-12-0183r0)
7.6.1.Chair: Nominations are now open for Chair and VC1 together with VC2. The actual elections will take place on Wednesday. Does anyone else want to be nominated?
7.6.2.No response.
7.6.3.Chair: The call for candidates is now closed.
7.6.4.The current list is: Chair - Bruce Kramer, VC1 - Jon Rosdahl and VC2 - Adrian Stephens.
7.6.5.Chair: 11-12-0203r0 provides some material about my background, position and also a view on what IEEE 802.11 will do going forward. Please note that if I am re-elected as Chair then it will be my last 2 years in this post.
7.6.6.VC1: 11-12-0322r0 provides material about my experience.
7.6.7.VC2: 11-12-0231r0provides material about my experience over the last two years.
7.6.8.Chair: This will be expanded upon during the mid-week plenary on Wednesday.
7.6.9.Chair: This process will be repeated for sub-group officers in May and nominations are now open. Nominations will close during the open plenary of the May session.
7.7.Lunch
7.7.1.Please note that lunch will be provided as a buffet for free. However, please note that all staff will be checking for badges.
7.8.Wednesday Social
7.8.1.The Social will be held at the Luau area on the far side of the lobby from here (Kamehameha Court), towards the lagoon tower.
7.9.IEEE 802.11-2012
7.9.1.At this point, all approvals have been given and it should now be published in early April. Following this, awards will be presented in July 2012. In addition to this, 11aa and 11ae have also been approved by the EC. Then 11aa will be published mid April and 11ae at the end of April.
7.10.IEEE 802 ExCom
7.10.1.There is not a lot of material for the IEEE 802 ExCom this week. The two current study groups, CMMW and ISD may require extensions.
7.11.IEEE 802.1 Architecture (D1.3)
7.11.1.The last ballot failed at 72%. There are currently 100 comments for this group to consider. IEEE 802.11 submitted about one third of these comments and these will be reviewed in the ARC session on Wednesday.
7.12.SmartGrid
7.12.1.ExCom has now considered creating a new IEEE 802 TAG (Technical Advisory Group) for SmartGrid, which will be discussed in the IEEE 802.11 SmartGrid meetings this week.
7.13.Obituaries
7.13.1.Jim Carlo and Don Loughry, both prior IEEE 802 chairs, have passed away since the Jacksonville meeting.
7.13.2.Chair: Please join me in a moment of silence.
7.13.3.Chair: There are two memorial books in the registration area, if you wish to leave a message of condolence. These will be then distributed to their families at the end of the week.
7.13.4.VC1: There is also a blog area from the main IEEE 802 website for your additional comments.
7.14.Wednesday
7.14.1.There are other topics for discussion, which will come up on Wednesday.
7.15.Tutorials
7.15.1.There are no tutorials scheduled for this week. If you have any topics for July 2012 please put them forward as soon as you can to get one of the tutorial time slots.
- Documentation and Attendance (11-12-0038r1)
8.1.VC2: The ANA has nothing to report at the moment.
8.2.There are currently 298 voters. There were 2 people who lost their voting rights during the recent TGac letter ballot.
8.3.ePoll was used for this letter ballot and indeed the VC2 will meet with the IEEE staff to discuss some issues that were raised.
8.4.Please remember to do your attendance.
8.5.There is a online calendar if you wish to download it for your device.
8.6.Also remember to use the local server to download documents to save external bandwidth.
8.7.If you think you should have a voting token on your badge, please ask at the registration desk for a new badge.
8.8.Chair: There were 690 people who registered for this meeting, with IEEE 802.11 being the largest group, followed by IEEE 802.3.
- Status of all groups (11-12-0182r1)
9.1.The status of each group was presented.
9.2.Some extra notes not covered in the slides:
9.2.1.Editor’s Meeting: This occurs at 7am on Tuesday morning
9.2.2.WNG: There are 3presentations scheduled for this weekat 8am on Tuesday morning
9.2.3.TGaf chair: This snapshot is now out of date, as there will be a joint session with TGac on Thursday morning to discuss physical layer issues. Therefore most of the TGaf meetings this week will be preparing for that joint meeting.
9.2.4.Chair: Please can you send me an updated snapshot for this.
9.2.5.No questions
- Any Other Business
10.1.None
10.2.Meeting recessed at 12:32HAST
Wednesday, 14thMarch2012
IEEE 802.11 Mid Week Plenary
Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell Semiconductor) opened the meeting at 10:34HAST
146people present.
- Approve/modify joint opening agenda(11-12-0181r3)
11.1.Chair: There are some adjustments which have been made to this document. The IEEE 802.18 update has been postponed to Friday.
11.2.Any objection to accepting this change to the agenda?
11.3.No objection, so moved and approved.
- Call for Essential Patents
12.1.Call for essential patents
12.2.None
- CAC
13.1.Reminder about 19.30 meeting on Thursday. Need to consider documentation for the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) meeting on Friday.
- Announcements
14.1.Social
14.2.In this hotel this evening at the Kamehameha Court, that is the Luau venue, near the reception. Please can you remember to obtain badges for any guest, otherwise they will not be allowed in.
14.3.Lost & Found
14.4.A Korean or a Japanese android phone was found last night around this meeting area and is now with hotel security.
- Liaisons
15.1.IEEE 802.19 : Co-existence (11-12-0412r0)
15.1.1.Chair: When TGac was balloted, there was supposed to be a comment from IEEE 802.19 on the co-existence issue. Do you know what the status is?
15.1.2.TGac Chair: I think it passed.
15.1.3.Chair: Ok, but let’s check anyway.
15.1.4.VC2: Yes, it did pass in IEEE 802.19
15.2.TGaa MAC Address (11-12-0426r1)
15.2.1.ANA chair: I wanted to discuss this issue now for a few minutes, rather than having a separate TGmb meeting.
15.2.2.C: I would like to speak as an IEEE 802 Registration Authority Committee (RAC) member. I don’t see why IEEE 802.11 can’t do this. So, for one address this is ok, but for future multiple addresses I don’t think the RAC would be very happy. Therefore I recommend option 2.
15.2.3.Q: Isn’t this asking for a broadcast group address?
15.2.4.A: Therefore you cannot derive individual addresses from this.
15.2.5.ANA chair: No, I think its ok.
15.2.6.Chair: Can anyone from TGaa comment on this.
15.2.7.TGaa vice-chair: A group address is indeed required, but TGaa doesn’t have an opinion about which option is chosen.
15.2.8.Chair: The IEEE 802 RAC chair has mentioned that there is an issue here. We don’t have to resolve this today, but there is an outstanding RevCom comment for the 11aa draft, prior to publication. Therefore I think option 1 is the safest.
15.2.9.ANA chair: Does anyone object if IEEE 802.11 adopts option 1.
15.2.10.None seen.
15.3.Bluetooth SIG
15.3.1.There are no specific issues to report, but the relationship between Bluetooth SIG and IEEE 802 continues especially in the area of SmartGrid.
15.4.Wi-Fi Alliance (WFA)
15.4.1.Two main issues:
15.4.1.1.On 25th January 2012, the Wi-Fi CERTIFICATION protected Management frames (11w) was announced.
15.4.1.2.The 20th February meeting was held in Vienna, Austria
15.4.2.Near term certifications
15.4.2.1.Hotspot 2.0 (11u)
15.4.3.Medium term certifications
15.4.3.1.60 GHz
15.4.3.2.VHT5
15.4.4.Other certifications
15.4.4.1.Wi-Fi multimedia and admission control
15.4.4.2.IBSS
15.4.4.3.Wi-Fi Display
15.4.5.Future certifications
15.4.5.1.TV White Spaces
15.4.5.2.Smart Grid
15.4.6.The next member meeting is in Toronto, Canada in June 2012
15.4.7.Chair: The liaison we sent to Wi-Fi Alliance for information on Wi-Fi Direct was honored and a response was returned that the ISD SG is currently analyzing. I would like to thank Ian Sherlock as liaison officer and the WFA for their prompt response.
15.5.IETF(11-12-0428r0)
15.5.1.Chair: There are no actions this time are there?
15.5.2.No.
15.6.3GPP
15.6.1.There is nothing to report this time.
15.6.2.No questions
- Officer Elections
16.1.Chair Election(11-12-0183r0 slide #31)
16.1.1.Chair: I now turn the meeting over to the VC1 for the WG Chair election.
16.1.2.VC1: These are the nominations for WG Chair:
16.1.2.1.Bruce Kraemer (11-12-0203r1)
16.1.3.Q: I have issues about connecting to the IEEE 802.11 mailing list. Also I would like an email indication of every time a document is uploaded to the document server.
16.1.4.Bruce: We provide newcomer training for the IEEE 802.11 email lists. Access will be given to the email reflectors at the end of the meeting. Regarding indication of new documents, I don’t think we will.
16.1.5.Q: Sure, but for other SDOs, there are different rules.
16.1.6.Bruce: There is a read-only email list if you are interested.
16.1.7.C: As I’ve been here for 20 years, I would like you to re-consider and re-appoint Stephen McCann as WG secretary.
16.1.8.Bruce: I shall certainly consider that.
16.1.9.Yes: 113, No: 0, Abstain: 0
16.1.10.Bruce Kraemer is duly elected as WG Chair.
16.1.11.VC1: I now hand back the chair to Bruce Kraemer.
16.2.VC1 Election
16.2.1.Chair: These are the nominations for 1st Vice Chair
16.2.1.1.Jon Rosdahl (11-12-0322r0)
16.2.2.Q: You don’t mention anything about your company support. Do you have the correct document including the statement of support?
16.2.3.A: yes
16.2.4.Q: At the moment I understand that if a WG chair is not available at the EC, a WG vice-chair (VC) cannot stand in on the EC.
16.2.5.A: Sure, however this rule hopefully will change on Friday and afterwards a nominated VC will be allowed to stand in for the WG chair.
16.2.6.Yes: 106, No: 1, Abstain: 0
16.2.7.Jon Rosdahl is duly elected as 1st Vice-Chair.
16.3.VC2 Election
16.3.1.Chair: These are the nominations for 2nd Vice Chair
16.3.1.1.Adrian Stephens (11-12-0231r0)
16.3.2.No questions
16.3.3.Yes: 109, No: 0, Abstain: 0
16.3.4.Adrian Stephens is duly elected as 2nd Vice-Chair.
- Room Change Requests
17.1.Chair: I’ve received requests from TGad and TGah, as TGad has now finished for the week.
17.2.The new requests are:
17.2.1.TGac and TGah: Thursday PM2
17.2.2.The other request from TGah for Wednesday is not possible due to no room availability.
17.2.3.Could TGac take the Wednesday PM2 slot today that TGad has freed.
17.2.4.TGai requests PM2 today and tomorrow.
17.2.5.TGah would like the additional time to go through many technical submissions.
17.3.Chair: Ok, I suggest:
17.4.TGah: Thurs PM1
17.5.TGac: Thurs AM1
17.6.TGai: Wed PM2 and Thurs PM2
17.7.Chair: Is there any objection to these changes?
17.8.None seen
17.9.Note: The TGaf PHY session will be on Thurs AM1 and we hope the TGac PHY people will attend.
- ePoll
18.1.VC2: This was used for the first time for the TGac letter ballot. There were some problems and feedback was given to the IEEE-SA staff yesterday.
- Comment resolution guideleines (11-11-1625r2)
19.1.VC2: Please can people look at this document and read it regarding guidelines for processing comment resolutions.
19.2.Chair: These were developed to improve and normalize behavior across our task groups as regards comment resolution.
- ARC
20.1.The ARC standing committee met this morning and the recommendation is that IEEE 802.11 retains it’s “No” vote. Basically no updated draft is currently available regarding the resolved IEEE 802.11 comments.
20.2.Chair: Thanks to Michael Montemurro for chairing the ARC SC today.
20.3.Chair: I believe that there will be a re-circulation of the next draft within the next couple of weeks, where we can re-visit this.
20.4.Q: In the IEEE 802 meeting, they were asking the No voters to change their votes. Do you know if anyone else did?
20.5.Chair: Officially I don’t know.
20.6.There is more information in the ARC closing report.
- ETools (ec-12-0015-00)
21.1.VC1: This is a presentation given by IEEE-SA regarding their ETools update: Most changes should be available for the May 2012 interim meeting.
21.2.Please note that IEEE will change web accounts to use email identifiers as user names shortly.
21.3.Q: My IEEE email address is an alias. Will that still be ok?
21.4.A: I think so.
- IEEE 802.11 Operations Manual (11-09-0002r9)
22.1.VC1: Here are some suggested changes to the IEEE 802.11 Operations Manual, picking up editorial changes and typos.
22.2.There are also some changes which have been brought down from superior documents.
22.3.I would like to present this again on Friday for WG approval.
22.4.C: There is a typo, as it says 625 in the URL for the comment resolution guidelines as opposed to 1625.
22.5.Chair: There are also some more rule changes within this document.
22.6.No questions
- Any Other Business
23.1.None
23.2.Meeting recessed at 12:30HAST
Friday, 16thMarch2012
IEEE 802.11 Closing Plenary
Call to order at 08:02HAST by Bruce Kraemer (Marvell).
97 people present in the room.
- Agenda (11-12-0181r4)
24.1.Chair: There are some changes in this version, specifically updated motions and extra reports. There are also some additional documents (11-12-0183r2, 11-12-0430r0, 11-12-0429r0) that I will refer to.
24.2.Chair: At the moment, the meeting is planned to finish at 11:00HAST.
24.3.Any objection to adopting the changes to the agenda.
24.4.None seen
- Call for Essential Patents
25.1.Call for Essential Patents and Letters of Assurance (LoA)
25.2.None
- Announcements(11-12-0183r2)
26.1.Minutes and documents
26.1.1.Please can everyone remember that minutes, reports, web-updates and timelines should be completed once the meeting is closed.
26.2.May 2012
26.2.1.There is currently a rough agenda for the May 2012 meeting and there will be our usual CAC meetings between now and that meeting.
26.3.LoA(slide #44)
26.3.1.Please look at this slide for a reference to the current LoA database.
26.4.IEEE Shop (slide #47)
26.4.1.As of 1st March 2012, many IEEE 802 standards are now available for $5. However, our specific IEEE 802.11 draft specifications still require some attention. For example the 802.11s draft should now have been replaced with the IEEE 802.11s-2011 published document.