Florida High School Athletic Association

Cross Country– AGENDA ITEM

Site: FHSAA Office Date: January 28-29, 2007

Item: 205.05 Individual honors for substitutes Check One: X Action ___ Discussion

Background Information:

If an athlete substitute in any round of the Cross County State Series, they are not eligible for individual honors.

Recommendation(s):

Allow substitutes to be eligible for individual honors by changing the following rule to: A runner who qualifies in the top 15 and who also is a member of a qualifying team may be replaced in the team lineup [regional meet/Finals] by a substitute. The substitute, however, shall not be eligible for individual honors on any subsequent level of competition. (Delete the last, restricting sentence.)

Rationale:

To allow substitutes to receive individual honors on any level of competition at the FHSAA State Series.

Alternative(s): Motioned:Means 2ndMurphy

Accept

Deny

Modify and Accept

Com. 1st Rdg:(5-1 Approve) 11/29/05Com. 2nd Rdg:(9-0 Approve) 11/28/06 OAC Rdg:___

AD Com 1st Rdg:(9-0 Disapprove) 1/11/06 AD Com 2nd Rdg:(9-0 Disapprove) 1/09/07 BoD ______

Data Source:

Impact (to be completed by FHSAA Staff)

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Signature of Staff Member Submitting Item Name of Staff Member Submitting Item

Cross Country Coaches Advisory Committee

Minutes

10 a.m. Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Robert W. Hughes Building
FHSAA Office / Gainesville, FL
I. Purpose and Introductions

The meeting was called to order at 10:06 a.m. by Shanell Young. Ms. Young noted the purpose of the meeting and those in attendance proceeded with a brief introduction of themselves.

In attendance were members: James Donovan, Robert E. Lee High School; Scott Gowan, Lawton Chiles High School; Ron Norris, F.W. Buchholz High School; James Travieso, Vanguard High School; Bonnie Bryson, South Fork High School; David Rittenour, Walter L. Sickles High School; Frankie Ruiz, Belen Jesuit School; Jan Murphy, Coral Springs Christian Academy; Gary Droze, FACA Representative. FHSAA staff members present were: John A. Stewart, Commissioner; and Denarvise Thornton, Senior Director of Athletic Operations

II.The Committee completed their travel expense vouchers. The agenda was adopted as presented.

III. The committee selected Gary Droze as the chairperson.

IV. Mr. Droze reviewed and the committee approved the minutes from the November 29, 2005 meeting.

V. Action

A.1. Review of Cross Country Finals

The committee recommends the following items, which may assist the host organization improve various areas of the event:

Starting area.

A wider starting lineshould be used to help with runner congestion during the start.

Team areas.

The committee discussed the location and size of the team areas, requesting that it be larger and restricted to athletes and coaches only. The use of an identification wristband could help elevate the problem of spectators entering the area.

Finish line.

The committee suggested that additional visible markings on the ground should be used at the finish line.

First-Aid tent.

The committee suggested that the First aid tent be moved away from spectator access or enclosed to keep spectators from interfering with the medical staff.

Additional athlete entrance.

The committee suggested that all athletes on each teams entry list should get commentary access to the meet.

Porta-pottys.

The committee suggested that more porta-pottys are needed near the starting line.

Starting Schedule.

The committee suggested that a schedule, which not only rotates the classes, but also rotates the genders, be recommended in the future.

An Ad-hoc committee of: Gowan, Norris, Murphy, and Rittenour was created to create such a schedule.

Coaches Meeting.

The committee raved about the use of the Online Coaches Meeting and thought it was very helpful. The committed recommend that a certificate be available for printing to validate attendance.

Kudos.

The committee congratulated the FHSAA Staff, Bishop McLaughlin Administration, Little everglades Ranch and Cyle Sage on all of the improvements from last year, and look forward to next year’s meet.

A.2. Review of Cross Country Manual.

The committee reviewed the 2006 FHSAA Cross Country Manual. For clarification, the committee recommends the following verbiage regarding headwear found on page 3:

“Headbands which are no more than two (2) inches wide and made of non-abrasive, unadorned cloth, elastic, fiber, soft leather, or rubber are permissible. Hair-restraining devices no more than two inches made of soft material are legal. Decorative headwear, i.e. hair ribbons, is prohibited.”

B. Recommendations (Effective 2007-08 if passed by Board of Directors)

Recommendation #1

205.05 Individual honors for substitutes

Allow substitutes to be eligible for individual honors by changing the following rule to: A runner who qualifies in the top 15 and who also is a member of a qualifying team may be replaced in the team lineup [regional meet/Finals] by a substitute. The substitute, however, shall not be eligible for individual honors on any subsequent level of competition. (Delete the last, restricting sentence.)

Motioned by Rittenour / 2nd by Donavan

1st CCAC (5-1 Approve) 11/29/05

1st ADAC (9-0 disapprove) 1/11/06

2nd CCAC (9-0 Approve) 11/28/06

B. Recommendations (Effective 2008-09 if passed by Board of Directors)

Recommendation #1

Number of Regional and state Passes.

From FHSAA Track & Field Manual 207.04 (3) -Participant Passes. Schools will be issued participant passes only for coaches and student-athletes who qualify for participation in the FHSAA Finals. Schools with four or fewer participants will be issued two (2) passes for use by coaches; schools with five or more participants will be issued three (3) passes for use by coaches.

Recommendation(s):

Please add the following to the Cross Country Manual regarding the Region and State Meets:

Participant Passes. Schools will be issued participant passes only for coaches and student-athletes who qualify for participation in the next meet. Schools with four or fewer individual qualifiers will be issued two (2) passes for use by coaches; schools qualifying a team will be issued three (3) passes for use by coaches.

1st CCAC (No action taken) 11/29/05

Recommendation #2

205.03 Regional Meets.

(2)Dates and Time Schedule. Regional meets shall be held on Friday, Nov. 3, or Saturday, Nov. 4 (Week 18). Suggested schedule times for a regional meet held on Friday are 4 p.m., 4:30 p.m. and 5 p.m. Suggested schedule times for a regional meet held on Saturday are 9 a.m., 9:30 a.m. and 10 a.m. The girls race shall precede the boys race in each meet. The date and time of each meet will be posted on FHSAA.org. A coaches meeting shall be held at the site of each regional meet 30 minutes prior to the start of the meet.

Recommendation(s):

Change the wording in 205.03 (2) to read:

“A coaches meeting shall be held at the site of each regional meet at least 30 minutes prior to the start of the meet.”

OR:

“A coaches meeting shall be held at the site of each regional meet 60 minutes prior to the start of the meet.”

Motioned by Gowan / 2nd by Donavan

1st CCAC (7-1 Modify and Approve) 11/28/06

VI. Discussion

A.1. Lightning Policy. FHSAA Staff and Committee discussed the correct protocol for suspending a race after it has started. The Staff stressed the need of recovery and warm-up time for the athletes.

A.2. Ms. Galdys discussed the need for better communication between the District and Regional host to ensure smoother transitions between the levels of competition.

A.3. Mr. Gowan discussed the need of decreasing the amount of teams qualifying for the state meet.

A.4. Ms. Murphy discussed the need of a guideline for regular season meets to bring consistency to all regular season meets.

Mr. Droze adjourned the meeting at 1:24 p.m.