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DYNAMIC COALITION ON ACCESSIBLITY AND DISABILITY

SEPTEMBER 2, 2015

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> ANDREA SAKS: The captioner is fine. Since they can see us. Let me just say Derrick has made it. Derrick, can you speak? Yes, I'm good. Derrick, hold open a second. Derrick, can you talk? They are not muted, are they?

> XIAOYA YANG: No, they are not.

> DERRICK COGBURN: I don't need a phone dial out.

> ANDREA SAKS: Everyone can hear us, correct? Yes. Yes. Francesca, can you say yes? Yes. Nirmita can hear us? So we don't have them for audio. Now you look very worried. Don't worry about it. Everyone, we are going to get this sorted. We have an hour and a half. Don't panic. They can hear but they can't speak.
They have to connect through the bridge. They didn't get instructions to connect through the bridge. What's going to happen you are going to speak what the connections are and that will go on the captioning. And everyone can see you see what you are saying. So come here and speak in to the phone or do you want to type it out? Sorry. Help her. You do it. You know what to do. Come here, young man. I can hear you but unable to hear yes, okay. Everyone, hang on. We are going to put Patricia on the mic and she will give you all instructions. Oh, gosh, verbally. Okay. Go. Speak.

> Patricia: Okay. Hi everyone. So you are telling me you don't have the VoiP option, is that right?

> ANDREA SAKS: Wouldn't know what that was.

> Patricia: Okay. One moment. Let me just check quickly what's going on.

> ANDREA SAKS: All right. Now we have okay. So just a minute.

> We had someone speaking earlier in the beginning?

> ANDREA SAKS: No. We never had any voice coming in from the other side.

> The person you had, he was driving

> ANDREA SAKS: That was Axel. We called him.

> Yes, yes. No. If you call him or you go through Adobe it is different. Yes, yes. It is a different situation, but the way we got him is different. It doesn't work that way. We called him. Correct. So that's why he can.

> AXEL LEBLOIS: I was called yes.

> ANDREA SAKS: You were called. So you have audio. We don't have audio with the rest of them and you guys sort this out, please. Okay. Derrick is typing. When I click on audio options only the my mobile number is 01 okay. Everyone give me your numbers. Yes. Okay. First number we have is 0 it is United States, 01, 2022553991. Derrick, you are going to be called. (Phone ringing).

> DERRICK COGBURN: Hello. (Echoing).

> ANDREA SAKS: Hang on. Derrick, can you mute your phone temporarily? Or your computer? Mute your computer. Keep your phone on. Okay. He has got that. Now Gunela, phone number. We have got Derrick on. Nirmita, phone number. Robert, phone number. And which country with country codes. De is on. De, what phone number? Next time we are just using the bloody phone.

> We can use the bridge.

> ANDREA SAKS: Well, we have to write better instructions.

> Down here, down here

> ANDREA SAKS: I don't remember, but the point is I don't think of stuff. We have always used the telephone and captioning full stop with a call back. Okay. I can call on the phone bridge. Okay. Gunela, can you look at the captioning and read what I'm saying to you. Would you please give us your telephone number and we will call you? What I want you then to do is to mute your computer.

> Connecting.

> ANDREA SAKS: Okay. (Phone ringing). Robert, you got okay. Robert. Thank you. We have got you.

> ROBERT PEARSON: Thank you.

> ANDREA SAKS: Robert, is that you?

> ROBERT PEARSON: Yes.

> ANDREA SAKS: Great. Thank you. You are on. Now Gunela you don't need to do that. 61 okay. Now who are we missing? Okay. Francesca, give me your mobile phone, please and De, you will just read okay. De, you want to do it where you read the transcript on the screen and then your comments by typing. Is that correct, De?

> GUNELA ASTBRINK: Hello. Can you hear me now through the phone?

> ANDREA SAKS: We have an echo. Okay. Gunela, turn off the sound in your computer. Mute your computer. The little loud speaker icon makes that a circle no, it is not a red cross. A circle with a diagonal line through it.
(Laughter).

> ANDREA SAKS: Yeah. He may be right. Okay. Everybody is laughing at me. Okay. Now so De is going to do it manually. Gunela is on. Nirmita, where are you? Did you get Nirmita on? Nirmita

> I got her phone number. I will send it to you.

> ANDREA SAKS: Faster if you speak it. Just read it out.

> XIAOYA YANG: Plus 91 in the Nirmita number.

> ANDREA SAKS: Plus 9 is just speak it out because then it goes in to the captioning and she can see it. Xiaoya, just read it out.

> XIAOYA YANG: (Off microphone).

> ANDREA SAKS: Just do it. It is faster because nobody else is on the line except for us monkeys and chickens. Okay. She is in India.

> XIAOYA YANG: Oh, India.

> ANDREA SAKS: She is in India, Patricia. Plus 9. Oh, you have got it. It is there. All right. I think we are going to be able to start. We are going to do a roll call in a minute. And then I'm going to have everyone unmuted and make sure your computers are muted and your phones are not muted. And then I will do a roll call (phone ringing) as soon as Nirmita is on.

> NIRMITA NARASIMHAN: Hello.

> ANDREA SAKS: You are there. You sound fine. You have muted your computer. Everyone is on. We are doing okay. I am going to do a roll call. So need to get out of my desk. Okay. Well, welcome everyone to the DCAD call. It took us 15 minutes but we have been working on it for 45. Thank you, boys. Thank you, Patricia. And thank you very much. If we need more what is it?

> 6464.

> ANDREA SAKS: We gotcha. Thank you. Yeah. That's you. Gotcha. Okay. We can start. What I would like to do first is to do a roll call. So I'm going to call your name as I see it and you speak so we know. The only exception will be De. De has put technology is a wonderful thing. So De is going to be on by will look at the chat box for De's responses and questions and stuff. And then we have Derrick. Derrick, will you say something so we know you are there?

> DERRICK COGBURN: Yes. Good morning, good afternoon. I am Derrick Cogburn, executive director of the Institute on public policy. Hang in there, Andrea. It will work.

> ANDREA SAKS: Great. Francesca, can you say a few words? We don't have Francesca. Francesca is on but she is not speaking. Uhoh. Francesca, can you type something please? Judy just came on. Judy Okite, can you hear us please? Hang on. We got to get one of them back. Francesca? Francesca is going to be on in a minute. Judy, can you hear us or not? We got somebody else who came on. Axel, we know you are there but Axel is gone.

> AXEL LEBLOIS: No, I'm here. Can you hear me?

> ANDREA SAKS: Yes, I can.

> AXEL LEBLOIS: Andrea, I have a meeting at 8:30. I got to go through security in a big building and I have to leave now unfortunately. They she was on the phone before. But she is happy to help in any way you wish. She can moderate. She can give an introduction whichever way works for everyone, okay?

> ANDREA SAKS: Okay. Thank you, Axel. Okay.

> AXEL LEBLOIS: Thank you.

> ANDREA SAKS: Francesca will be on in a minute. Francesca, are you on?

> FRANCESCA CESA BIANCHI: Yes, I am. Yes, good morning, good afternoon. This is Francesca Cesa Bianchi. I am institutional relations

> ANDREA SAKS: Too fast. Too fast. Slow down. I couldn't get because it is not working. Can you speak a little more slowly and repeat?

> FRANCESCA CESA BIANCHI: Good afternoon, everyone. And my name is Francesca Cesa Bianchi and I am in charge of institutional relations at G3ict for inclusive technology. Thank you.

> ANDREA SAKS: Thank you. And Fernando is in Brazil. Fernando is coming on. All right. Now Judy, would you like Judy, can you hear us okay? Judy, can you speak? (Phone ringing). Sorry. We still have a few people popping on that we need to sort out. Judy Okite, I know you are there and I can see your name there but what I can't get is either you can't hear us or you can hear us and can't speak. So Judy, can you type in to the box and tell us what your phone number is and we will call you? Nirmita, would you like to introduce yourself?

> NIRMITA NARASIMHAN: Hi. I am Nirmita Narasimhan and I am the policy director for Internet Society in India. It is evening here and I am happy to be on the call.

> ANDREA SAKS: Thank you. Fernando, are you there?

> FERNANDO BOTELHO: Yes, hello. This is Fernando Botelho. I am with F13 consulting and it is very good to be here.

> ANDREA SAKS: Okay. Now De has not come back and said who she is and what she does but De has okay. Judy, I just saw that you wrote that you were there. De has been Remote Moderator and has been a works with the Diplo organization, but De, perhaps you could write something down that I could read in the chat box and then I will be accurate. And in the meantime, Judy, shoot your number at us so we can get you on where you can speak. Okay? And De is now typing.

What I'm going to do while we are getting the last of the people on here is I'm just going I'm going to ask Xiaoya to put up the agenda and what I would like you also to do is that what you do is speak, identify yourself every time that you speak so that the captioner will attribute what you are saying on the captioning and we will know it was you that made the comment or question or whatever.

Our captioner today is Tina Stevenson. And our Remote Moderator is Patricia I don't know how to say this. Sclageter. I am not sure I have said it correctly. We have Xiaoya Yang who is the Secretariat of the Dynamic Coalition on accessibility and disability who is in charge of the documents and will be making comments. Judy, you can use the computer but you cannot speak through the computer. We have been having problems. Judy, can you give us your phone number and we will call you? Okay. And that is what we want you to do and then it won't cost anybody anything. Don't worry about that. You use the computer to see what's going on and you can type if you want to intervene rather than interrupt verbally, but it gives you the opportunity to speak verbally which will make it a lot easier. You see Judy's number and Judy, you are in which country? In Africa? It is in Africa. Kenya. Thank you.

While Judy is coming on, when Judy makes it on we will introduce her properly. Judy Okite she has been in the MAG. Okay. Now we will continue until we get Judy on and when Judy is on we will speak. This has been quite a morning getting this set up. We had roll call. What I want to do is I want to talk about our workshop at 253, "Empowering the Next Billion by Improving Accessibility". I want to have you all have

(Talking at the same time).

> ANDREA SAKS: Judy, are you on?

> JUDY OKITE: Yes, I am.

> ANDREA SAKS: Mute your computer. Turn your sound off in your computer, Judy. Have you done that? Good. Judy, can you speak?

> JUDY OKITE: Yes, I can.

> ANDREA SAKS: Perfect. Judy, tell them who you are and then I will continue.

> JUDY OKITE: Okay. My name is Judy Okite and I live in Kenya.

> ANDREA SAKS: You can say more than that.
(Laughter).

> JUDY OKITE: I have been in the MAG and I have been working with DCAD for the last three years.

> ANDREA SAKS: And Judy is a great asset and actually challenges guards with guns to let us in to drive to the front of the building. She needs to have access directly. She is very good at getting what she wants.
(Laughter).

> ANDREA SAKS: Okay. What I would like to do is to have you

> GUNELA ASTBRINK: Can I introduce myself, please?

> ANDREA SAKS: Gunela, please introduce yourself. Forgive me.

> GUNELA ASTBRINK: That's okay Andrea. This is Gunela Astbrink and I am from Australia, director on the board of the Internet Society of Australia. And also managing an ITU project in Vanuatu on ICT accessibility. Thanks, Andrea.

> ANDREA SAKS: Thank you. With all this craziness I need to have this one put up. So list of people who are speaking.

> XIAOYA YANG: Okay.

> ANDREA SAKS: What I like to do you have all been given the list. The people who are presently on the list who are on the call are Francesca, and also Derrick and Fernando. Nirmita, you will be taking speaking for Sunil, is that correct?

> FRANCESCA CESA BIANCHI: Correct.

> ANDREA SAKS: Okay. So we'll start at the top. Francesca, would you like to explain to everyone what your what I know we have the written aspect up there but can you give a brief synopsis of what you are going to be talking about?

> FRANCESCA CESA BIANCHI: Yeah, sure. So well, one moment. I open my document.

> ANDREA SAKS: You want us to come back to you while you get that up because we do have up on the page

> FRANCESCA CESA BIANCHI: Yeah. I just want to ask if because we have discussed about moderating or when presenting, so I will be happy to do both. But maybe I need a bit more direction on that.