Donald Taylor:Welcome to this Learning and Skills Group webinar. I'm Donald H Taylor, your host, chairman of the Learning and Skills Group.
Donald Taylor:We'll be starting at 10:00 UK time
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Kirsty Ayers:Hi Don, are there dial in details for the audio available?
Kirsty Ayers:Thanks
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niallgavinuk:Good call!
Andy Morris:Grey in Reading, UK
Richenda:Brighton and it's dull
T:Hi from Leamington Spa - grey here
Kirsty Ayers:London grey
Gareth:Plymouth, dull but dry at the mo
Joe Turi:Here West London! Pretty cloudy here. :(
Claire Jardine:Chichester, also grey!
niallgavinuk:Same in Worthing Richenda
Sonia Bhattacharyya:grey
Martin A:Loughborough, grey...
Claire H:Grey in Reading
Prabu Moorthy:Bangalore - 20 degrees
Sam:Beautiful and Sunny in Belgium
Vicky:Manchester, grey but warm
Teresa from Sheringham:Here in Sherihgham grey, mild, dry
Sue Southcott:A little light drizzle in the English Riviera this morning (Torquay)
gemma baker:hi from Durham grey!
Martyn Bullard:Newcastle - grey and cold!
Sonia Bhattacharyya:Bangalore is cloudy too
Melanie:Mel , Cheshire grey
niallgavinuk:Steady Don
Geoff Plews:nice for the ducks
Gareth:mild charcoal
Martin A:Milk of magnesia...
Lars Hermansson:Malmo +8, cloudy, quite windy
Kirsty Ayers:bleak
Claire H:Blurgh
JP:hello from a dull, grey, damp manchester!
Greg Jamieson:Hi from Newcastle upon Tyne - grey but dry.
Lars Hermansson::)
Tamanya 2:Dull here in Letchworth Garden City :-(
niallgavinuk:Lol
nic:Battleship grey skies in Londinium
Dougie W:Dunfermline
martin nutbeem:Good morning from a gray Bristol - a threat of drizzle by the looks of it.
Di Bullman:Grey but not too cold in Leeds
Andrew Fraser (Sky):'Smirr' in Edinburgh
niallgavinuk:Haven't heard that one for years Andrew
Rick Johnson:Light drizzle in Shrivenham
niallgavinuk:You have to be there Don
Andrew Fraser (Sky):Very light drizzle = 'smirr'
Dougie W:Indeed
Michael:Grey in Shebu :)
Devina:Foggy and cold in Geneva
martin nutbeem:I'm definitely appropriating smirr Andrew
Dougie W:Andrew Fraser (Sky) from South Africa?
Donald Taylor:Delegate Dial in details:The sound will play through your computer speakers / headset. If you prefer you can dial in:
Donald Taylor:Dial in details: UK: +44 20 8934 7640 Pin: 2746920#
Donald Taylor:For phone numbers outside the UK:
Fraser:cold but no rain here in Scotland
Julio Parry:Lost the sound
Fraser:Hello Andrew Fraser :)
Donald Taylor:Julio - sound is ok here on my 2 machines
Donald Taylor:It ma be you could benefit from dialing in
Julio Parry:Ok now
Donald Taylor:Ok - thanks
paul:george osborne ?
Teresa from Sheringham:very imaginative
Joe Turi:It's in colour
Claire H:great colour
niallgavinuk:Surprisewd it was in colcour
nic:Great movie! Ultra theatrical, playfull, fantastical
Richenda:colourised
Arpita: people coming out of a bullet
Sue Rennoldson:inappropriate dress with the benefit of hindsight
Carrie Brightwell:How did they know what the surface of the moon looked like?
Fraser:no CGI present, nice and simplistic
Sue Southcott:it looked from the opening clip that there were only women in the initial scene
Tamanya 2:very hi-tech for the time
Deb E:some in colour some not
Kathryn:Women takng part given the date!
Dougie W:Mixed range of filmed content and illustrated content
nic:The cheese moon provides a soft landing
Andy Morris:classic early example of trick cinema effects
Martin A:Uses the technology of the day, reimagined a bit to do something a bit unexpected?
Deb E:face in moon looks like tellytubbies
Julio Parry:Difficult to relate to it with the modern use of graphic and video techniques
Gareth:Pre rockets
Fraser:the moon reminded me more of the Mighty Boosh moon
Michael:thought leader
Michael:lost the sound...
nic:boosh were very inspired by this movie
Jane B:Been reading the Oz books to my son with the original drawings, it looks so similar
Donald Taylor:Michael - if there's a problem with sound it may be better for your to dial in
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Michael:ok, will give it a go
Donald Taylor:thx
Jane B:Very. very interesting way of looking at it...
Donald Taylor:Efficiency of a existing model, rather than effectiveness of using a new medium
Michael:got it :)
Bryan Burgess:The fact that we still refer to screens in some cases as slides still is probably an indicator of this too. with Powerpoint etc.
Michael:thnx
Donald Taylor:Brayn - good poiint
marina:responsive design
marina:learning available on all devices
paul:computers 4 all
Tania:personalisation
Sue Southcott:the Internet of things
niallgavinuk:Social Media
T:Tess (LAS @mygoalgetter) peer to peer learning, games, personalisation
Tamanya 2:learning via social media
Jane B:Pictures
Julio Parry:Contextual and interactive
Ian Gardner:Arguably, a lot of what you still see as 'eLearning' was formed by the capabilities of CD-ROM learning as much as anything.
Jessica:gamification
dirk:big data
marina:social learning
Jess 2:portability eg. smart watches
Geoff Plews:micro learning
LizB:instant feedback via social media
Sonia Bhattacharyya:mobile apps
Paul 2:modular learning - aka you tube self driven
Prabu Moorthy:connected from anywhere and everwhere
Sue Rennoldson:user generated content
Sonia Bhattacharyya:analytics
Tamanya 2:YouTube
Di Bullman:digital collaboration
Jane B:anyone can be an expert
Dougie W:web everywhere
Sue Southcott:virtual reality
Devina:Lots of devices
Sonia Bhattacharyya:social forums
marina:information available all the time everywhere
Rick Johnson:Wearable tech
Sam:Connectivity for all
Arpita:user generated content
Heidi:infographics
Michael:A R
Steve:Mobile Learning
Richenda:in the cloud
niallgavinuk:Consumerisation of IT
Dougie W:sharing and collaboration
nic:Augmented reality
Steve:Information in the palm of your hand!
Betina Hansen:Self-directed
paul:speed of response
Jane B:removal of "professionals" - people become writers, experts, online
martin nutbeem:Yup - visual composition - social media has made us all far more aware of this.
T:Tess (LAS @mygoalgetter) expect more immediacy
Martin A:ubiquity
Donald Taylor:Love these answers
Di Bullman:expectation of instant information
Sue Southcott:we expect information instantly
Donald Taylor:please keep them coming
Prabu Moorthy:text to audio-- moving on to video options
niallgavinuk:If curated helpfully and effectively...!
Donald Taylor:Sue - totally agree. We expect information and service immediately
Michael:with the flow of information it is important to get it in managable chunks...
Donald Taylor:Michael - absolutely
paul:not so sure many peeps trawl there old tweets
Sue Southcott:there is an issue with people believing everything they see/hear on social media - there's a lot of misinformation out there
LizB:how does our experience alter our expectations....we want to be involved, we don't want to wait. we want to self serve, we want it to be focused and releveant
Donald Taylor:Sue - yes, classic case the recent mis-identifying of the suspected shooter in the US
Donald Taylor:LizB - yes
nic:Social media has no filter "gosspi" proliferates alonside "facts" and point of view is now individual rather than though limited media outlets
Lorna Matty:isn't one of the new words for 2016 bingeTV
Ian Gardner:Microsoft Continuum could have a big impact on what we can do with collaboration and learning via smaller devices.
Donald Taylor:Lorna - yes, along with "TV snacking"
Donald Taylor:Ian - could you tell us more?
Donald Taylor:nic - agreed
nic:Live music is a valued gourmet "experience", digital consumption is more fast food
Lorna Matty:how do you explain the rise in Vinyl?
Jane B:image?
Michael:@nic: I like your analogy
Richenda:nostalgia for the 'real thing'
martin nutbeem:Vinyl - tactile - easier to 'learn' to dj with as so hands on.
Ian Gardner:Don - early doors but the suggestion is that they are abondoning smartphones in preference to the idea of app s that will adapt to if you are docke to a larger screen or not:
Michael:through social media performers and politicians have become more approachable...
nic:Vinly has become a "treasured" ithem you would get from an artist that you truly appreciated - almost a memento of a valued memory rather than litsen/forget ala digital
Donald Taylor:Lorna - really good question. I'd say that it's again a search for the authentic, but let's disucss at the end
Dougie W:abaility to play, mix and source the rarest records and singles
Dougie W:*ability
Dougie W:outdo your peers
Donald Taylor:Ian - thanks for the detail. Fascinating
Lorna Matty:@nic good point. I can't part with my vinyl..
paul:same with swords
Marco:@lorna I have a friend who owns a record shop he says the rise in vinyl is due mainly to the fact people want to own something physical and touch and feel it :)
Donald Taylor:Marco - great point
nic:I still get Vinly - but probably only from my ten absolute cream de la cream artists/bands
Michael:@Marco. I can totally undersstand that
Lorna Matty:@marco - agree. Interesting my new car won't have a CD player. I'm mortified...
Michael:@lorna: :)
LizB:Yes it is: YouTube, Linda.com, Twitter
Fraser:you can't beat the crackle sound you get when you put the needle on a record. MP3 and CD just can't do that lol
martin nutbeem:I've pulled too many muscles lugging vinyl around to clubs - flac and mp3 all the way (do buy CDs of course).
Michael:Buy an 8-track...
marina:lol @Lorna
Betina Hansen:Yes - on demand
Prabu Moorthy:yes, easy to connect with users and understand the requirements
T:Tess (LAS @mygoalgetter) they can now have learning in their pockets as they need it
Paul 2:people engage when they want, more empowered to take control
Richenda:24/7
Dougie W:people expect more. more information. More readily. more easy to search.
Devina:Smaller chunks of learning
Lisa:yes absolutely, anytime, anyplace, anywhere
marina:in bite size chunks
Rick Johnson:Absolutely - more flexible
Vicky 2:Of course, people want things quickly, easy access to information
Marco:just for me and just for now
James:Attention spans are lower
paul:a bit like ¨chinese¨ food
JP:on-demand and personalised
Prabu Moorthy:rather than showing what you have... you can ask what they want and give that
Andrew Y:Google
niallgavinuk:Very slowly, surprisingly
nic:Yes, digital is immediate/instantly shared/able for any person to teach another
LizB:Learning is now instant - I just look up on Linda.com if I need to know something - I do not look for a course
Sue Southcott:people are curating their own sources of learning
Deb E:critical thinking a challenge if too much info
Fraser:more learners have the option now to complete some training at home in their own time.
Michael:in percents the rise of vinyl might look hgh but in absolute numbers I think it looks differently...
Sam:Just in time, virtual online learning to meet global audience
gemma baker:more flexible
T:Tess (LAS @mygoalgetter) Yes it's Tess. My fingers were too quick on the draw when I was signing in so I'm T today
Jane B:But also a need for the "personal touch" - people still love high value in person experiences
Devina:Just in time
Steve:People like interactive learning rather than just reading words from a book
LizB:courses will need to become indepth subjects as we do the initial digging ourselves?
Marco:'personalisation'
Vicky 2:YouTube
Kirsty Ayers:yes, merging of knowledge, information and learning - do you need to learn the map or can you just use a sat nav to get you somewhere?
nic:It empowers ALL folks with access to the tech to teach others
Andy Morris:I find people more reluctant to seek & use digital learning at work than they are happy to use it at home
Gary Dolman:available off line whne you have no wifi or 3G/4G coverage, then sync when re-connected
Kirsty Ayers:Interesting concept from Nick Shackelton-Jones
Lorna Matty:Yes because I can't ever imagine going on a face-to-face course
Lisa:people have less time these days, digital can be quicker and easily accessible
Jane B:Andy - I think people see it as "cutting corners" still - the organization investing less
marina:maybe not so much digital with the "older generation"?
Rick Johnson:Old school mindsets and fear of change can be a hurdle
nic:true, skill of retention is less nessesary
Tamanya 2:People want to 'pull' their learning, not have it 'pushed' at them
Carol:at your own pace - useful for all sorts of learning issues
niallgavinuk:Agreed Rick
Kirsty Ayers:agreed - telephone numbers. I don't know people's numbers anymore
LizB:@marina - who are the older generation?
Dougie W:They have greater choice due to the range of asynchronous and world wide nature of digital
marina:im using my parents and co workers as an example in my head
Prabu Moorthy:there is a need to move on from class room training.. but still need the same experience
marina:older people who are not so savvy with tech
nic:Effort put into remebering happens less - we are becoming more intertwined and reliant on this instant access
Lorna Matty: I don't think there is an old school mindset OUTSIDE of work. It's just inside work..
LizB:@Lorna totally agree - it is inside work - everyone virtually has a smart phone
Radek Palinowski:agree with Tamaya 2 - digital media push too much info junk at me. I recentely got rid of my iPad and subscrived to NYT. I wanted to be in control and select what I need
Prabu Moorthy:good point Lorna
Kirsty Ayers:Agree to a point Marina - but my 85 year old grandmother is on Facebook and texts me
Sue Rennoldson:Emphasis on sharing
Michael:with access to knowledge via the web... what are we filling our brains with?
Vicky 2:I think everyone needs to adapt to a moving world of digital learning. There is so much support out there to help people become more digitally savvy
Marco:@kirsty love it! :)
Donald Taylor:Lorna - excellent point
Martin A:Bitesize = no depth. You think you've learned something but, have you, really? Bitesize = "I think I've taught you..."
Rick Johnson:Lorna - bang on :0)
Lorna Matty:Older people ar emore savvy with tech than we give them credit. The old mindset is at boadr level who don't see the value in the workplace
Richenda:the banks are investing in digital champions to help their customers
Donald Taylor:Brilliantly expressed Mark
Lorna Matty:sorry about typos
Dougie W:good point re 'remembering' nic. I used to know people's phone numbers. Now? Meh.
T:Tess (LAS @mygoalgetter) not sure that's fair to older people. I know many over 50s who are far more tech savvy than me
niallgavinuk:It's the medium, not the subject
nic:Less of need to be an "expert" in a topic, but more expert in locating/sharing/collaberting
Geoff Plews:how do you chnage the culture to encourage learning using digital?
Michael:ouch!
Paul 2:how old is older?
paul:pass rate for ecdl by age would be intreesting
T:Tess (LAS @mygoalgetter) sorry Don :-) (you are more tech savvy than me though)
LizB:a spring chicken @donald
Sue Southcott:we run tea and teach sessions in our branches for young and old to come in with their tablets and phones and our 'digital Eagles' help them discover how to shop online, use Facebook etc...
Lorna Matty:5os is th enew 40s!
Dougie W:I am 73
Teresa from Sheringham:Am involved with a lot of older people in Norfolk who are retired. Their main problem is the computer / tablet not working properly and having no IT support to sort it cheaply. Once up and running they grasp the app or useage very quickly
Lorraine Connolly:Interesting Tess - the research backs this up in that older generations who adopt Tech have great sustained success - the key is engaging them with it, not doing it for them