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13:01Loretta Driskel

cannot hear you over the music

13:01EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning

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13:01Boise State University

Please up the volume?

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13:06Oxford College iPad

hi.

13:07Boston College

hi

13:07Wayne State University

Hello, iPad.

13:08Troy @ Keuka

Hey Jim - Keuka

13:09Roxann Riskin

HI Jin!

13:10Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

support

13:10Todd Conaway

faculty support

13:10Willie Miller (IUPUI)

Library Faculty

13:10Susan Fowler

Librarian

13:10Elissa

Librarian

13:10Chase

technology consultant

13:10Jim Hilker - Keuka college

Hi Troy

13:10Rhonda Altonen

Library Faculty

13:10Paula Jones

Instructional Designer

13:10Lauren

faculty technology consultant

13:10Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

systems analyst

13:10Damon Blythe

Technology Specialist

13:10South Dakota State University - J. Lurvey

4 here, mixed

13:10Thomas La Foe

Instructional Technology Specialist

13:11Jason Bengtson

Librarian

13:11Michelle Papajohn

Director of Enterprise Systems

13:11Camille Fangue

Technology Support Services

13:11Chip at IUPUI

library technology director

13:11american university

IT

13:11Michigan Tech University

librarian

13:11indra canagaratna

Librarian

13:11Thomas La Foe

Not scary

13:11Mia Massicotte

Mia Massicotte, Librarian

13:11hongbo@Ryerson University

Application Development

13:11D. Amos (SATX)

Telecommunications Analyst

13:11Thomas La Foe

Cool

13:11Barbara

Barbara Library

13:12Pamela Gades

Instructional Technology Specialist, University of Minnesota, Morris

13:12Willie George

4 faculty, 6 IT staff

13:12Robin Ashford

wow, great to see so many librarians and library admin

13:12Willie George

was the text messaging stat US or global?

13:12Debbie Malcangi 4

Michigan State University, several support staff

13:13Tabitha Washburn - Union University Germantown

7 faculty, 1 IT staff

13:13Jim Bouse

Gotta love people that text and ride bicyles at the same time. See it all over campus. :-)

13:14Sam

accidents and smartphones

13:14Loretta Driskel

Loretta Driskel, Instructional Technologist, Johnson & Wales University, Denver- 20 faculty & staff combined

13:15Wayne State University

handful of IT staff here.

13:15Debbie Malcangi 4

Wayne State: Is Nick DeNardis among you?

13:15Willie George

What percent of that 4.2B txt messagers are in the USA?

13:15Adam

Texting while riding a bike? Egad!

13:15Thomas La Foe

I'm in the Library at Mississippi State. In the Instructional Media Center.

13:15Pamela Giles

25%

13:15Wayne State University

Nick isn't with our group here, no. I don't know for certain he's not here on his own, though.

13:15Veronica Diaz, ELI

please post questions for the speaker here in the chat

13:17Roxann Riskin

Ray Kurzweil! YEAH!

13:17Geetha Nehemia - Broome Community College

I am a fan of John Seely Brown

13:18Debbie Malcangi 4

Power of Pull is a good JSB book

13:18Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

Is the singularity truly near? If so, what does this mean for learning?

13:18Jason Bengtson

Mobile access to knowledge is great . . . but we need effective ways to assign it source authority. Too many people are taking whatever they find through digital at face value.

13:18Jane Harris

So is A New Culture of Learning (JSB)

13:19Clark Quinn

Learnlets :)

13:19Oxford College of Emory University

Who has implemented and in what forms?

13:19Willie Miller (IUPUI)

Great point Jason. This is an area of opportunity for librarians.

13:20Dolf Jordaan

Why do we find that at all these academic mobile discussions we seldom see the users (our students) attend it or share their views or is being invited...Just a thought that came to mind looking at the first quick poll option :)

13:20Jason Bengtson

If mobile knowledge is nothing but McKnowledge or the equivalent of the bulletin board at the corner laundromat it won't do anyone any real good.

13:20Clark Quinn

prob with this diagram, confounds core capabilities with derivative applications

13:20Wayne State University

We're in the process of developing a mobile app, site, etc

13:20Veronica Diaz, ELI

Hi Clark!

13:20Mia Massicotte

Name of that book, please?

13:20Clark Quinn

(thanks, Judy!)

13:20Clark Quinn

Designing mLearning

13:21Mia Massicotte

thanks

13:21Veronica Diaz, ELI

13:21Clark Quinn

(designingmlearning.com is the associated site)

13:21Ben Woelk

Dolf--that's a good point. I do wonder about the students' perspectives.

13:21Clark Quinn

(Hi, Veronica!)

13:21Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

We have been able to argue for the use of web conferencing (like we are using now) since a lot of companies use it. Are our students' future employers using mobile?

13:21Suzanne Aurilio, San Diego State 2

I'd be curious who is watching this on a mobile device?

13:22Roxann Riskin

Bill your thoughts? Singularity in learning?

13:22Jason Bengtson

Office computer

13:22Suzanne Aurilio, San Diego State 2

office computer, hardwired

13:23Clark Quinn

love this, and for highly volatile information as well

13:23Oxford College iPad

chat is challenging and response is slow on iPad, but it is possible

13:23Roxann Riskin

what was our last game changer?

13:23Jason Bengtson

The Army has changed since I was in. What happens when your smartphone breaks in the field? Good luck, guys.

13:23Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

Hi Roxann. Singulatiry is where everything converges. Is this mobile? I rather think so...

13:23Gina Bennett - COTR

@suzanne aruilio: there's a nice adobe connect app for mobile devices (I have it on android tablet)

13:23Roxann Riskin

i do too Bill!!! agreed :)

13:24Clark Quinn

K-2 with cellphones?!?!

13:24Suzanne Aurilio, San Diego State 2

@Gina, but are you using it now?

13:24Wayne State University

Clark, that refers to parents as well, I presume.

13:24Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

Clark this surprises you?

13:24Gina Bennett - COTR

@Suzanne: not when I'm sitting at my desktop (which i am now) but i have in the past

13:24Sims Kline

Sims Kline, Research Librarian at Stetson University, DeLand, Florida: hello.

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13:25Shannon Smith

@Bill Drummond - Kurzweil would agree!

13:25Clark Quinn

Wayne State, I'm certainly hoping so ;)

13:25Wayne State University

Me too...

13:26Sims Kline

All of the above ?

13:26Sue Wise

@Sims-- agreed

13:27Robin Ashford

yes, tried to check all boxes @Sims

13:27Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

Biggest benfit - the students have and use them.

13:28Oxford College of Emory University

Rugged? Low Cost?

13:28Jason Bengtson

One of Plato's dialogues contained a story warning about the dangers of writing as a proxy for memory . . . the danger being that memory would become weak. We've replaced writing in that paradigm with digital. Will we be wise enough to use it as an augment or will it devolve into a crutch? Probably some of both.

13:28Clark Quinn

also, what works for mobile web also overlaps a lot with what works for accessibility

13:28Sue Wise

@Oxford-- Low cost for schools. Students and teachers bring them to the classroom with them.

13:28Jason Bengtson

I am struck by the malleability of both memory and digital.

13:28Debbie Malcangi 4

Our campus has a computer requirement policy for students. Does anyone have a mobile device requirement?

13:29Mia Massicotte

Well it's true we no longer have the ability to recite the Iliad...but our values have changed along with that.

13:29Sarkis Daglian (UCI)

No Debbie, that would be very interesting

13:29UTHSC Houston

@JasonB- agreed.

13:29vuDAT, MSU

Jason, the amount of information then and now is different :)

13:29Oxford College of Emory University

only 50% have smart phones. Are we setting up a culture of have versus have-nots?

13:29Jason Bengtson

But the underlying issues are the same.

13:29Willie George

Abilene Christian University requires mobile devices. They distribute them to the students.

13:29daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock

How much of the current thinking about mobile learning is based on survey and how much is based on observation of use in the student's environment?

13:30David Kampmann

I like that quote.

13:30Melissa

does the mobile app have sound

13:30Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

I like to think the values have remained the same it about how we are communicating those valuse

13:30UTHSC Houston

@vuDAT - yes but there is a lot that is not getting LEARNED just know where to reference

13:30Sarkis Daglian (UCI)

What device is distributed at Abilene Christian?

13:30David Kampmann

Any recommendation for how to save as an epub?

13:30Gina Bennett - COTR

@Melissa: yes

13:30Willie George

iphone or ipod touch, student's choice

13:30Willie George

at ACU

13:30Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

I do agree with the challenges

13:31Sarkis Daglian (UCI)

Interesting. Thanks Willie

13:31Clark Quinn

(If they take iphone, student pays phone plan)

13:31Oakland

Curiosity: Is anyone receiving a significant number of requests from student's for app-based learning modules?

13:31Michael C

...

13:31Mia Massicotte

Unfortunately still glued to pdfs for the most part.

13:31srichter

@David - use Pages to make epubs - it's really simple

13:31Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

android is presently giving us problems

13:31Debbie Malcangi 4

Abiliene Christian has a really cool culture that that embraces technology. Would love to talk to you guys

13:31Barbara

is Pages cross platform or just Mac?

13:31Dhwani

@srichter - how to do that

13:31Sarkis Daglian (UCI)

@Chris What kinds of problems?

13:32Clark Quinn

or read Will Thalheimer's summary of spacing research: good stuff

13:32EDUCAUSE Boulder

The current EQ and EDUCUASE Review have lots of coverage on ACU

13:32srichter

Just Mac - there are PC programs that can make epubs, but pages is easiest

13:32Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

connection through VPN

13:32Michael C

30 minutes in, we have not one technical aspect has been covered. Obviously, attendees are interested in mobile appsso why try to up sell it for the last half hour? Thee is more technical information in this chat window then the presentation.

13:32Barbara

what recommended for windows?

13:32srichter

How to make epubs in Pages:

13:32Jason Bengtson

You can epub through Google Docs as well.

13:32Sarkis Daglian (UCI)

Oh yeah, unless you root your phone we have the same issue. No Cisco VPN client yet on droid

13:32Mia Massicotte

There are websites that will also convert pdfs to epub

13:32Willie George

@Barbara, Pages is Mac and iOS only

13:32Susan Fowler

I agree Micahel!

13:32Dhwani

oo thanks

13:32srichter

Love ARIS!!!

13:32Susan Fowler

Michael

13:33Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

Not Just us!!!

13:33vuDAT, MSU

oakland, I believe we are at the front end of the curve of mobile learning apps

13:33Gina Bennett - COTR

@Michael C: session was titled Learning today & tomorrow... not specifically about technology

13:33Dhwani

list websites which convert pdf to epub

13:34Mia Massicotte

epub to go is one of them

13:34Monique (IU)

What is Google Goggles? Is that what the speaker said?

13:34Mia Massicotte

epub2go

13:34Oakland

@vuDAT, MSU: who is driving? IT driving, learning support driving, faculty driving or students driving?

13:34Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

Is the military implanting devices yet?

13:34John Bartelt

Phenomenal QR resource: (click on "Using QR Codes in the Classroom")

13:34Veronica Diaz, ELI

13:34Sarkis Daglian (UCI)

Bill - Yes, Androids

13:35Julie Rorabaugh

@Monique Google it (Goggles :-)

13:35Mia Massicotte

Another is PDF to EPUB converter.

13:35UTHSC Houston

@Oakland - mostly I see student driving and grant driving

13:35vuDAT, MSU

oakland, both learning support and faculty, at Michigan State.

13:35Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

I was thinking more of cyborgs

13:35Jason Bengtson

Google goggles is an augmented reality app that looks at things you image on a mobile device and adds qualitative information from web resources, google maps, etc.

13:35Robin Ashford

agree! great augmented reality smartphone pdf by JISC here:

13:35Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

Love the Caveats but time is at a premium so much to do so little time as it were!!

13:35Clark Quinn

good advice

13:36Michael Burke - UT Knoxville

MB googles goggles, giggles.

13:37Susan Fowler

Students!

13:37Clark Quinn

but learning *should* be driving!

13:37Monique (IU)

Thanks, Veronica.

13:38Sam

E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?

13:38Monique (IU)

hahaha Michael

13:38Clark Quinn

it's about better learning outcomes

13:38Qi

@Clark - Yes!

13:38TAMU

what is the source of the stats you presented?

13:38Ken Waller - Nipissing iTeach

Any sites (URLs) that you would recommend for Professional Learning/Development to support growth in integration abilities for classroom teachers?

13:38Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

Agree, clark!

13:38Clark Quinn

(and then meeting learner needs, e.g. supporting access to administrative functions)

13:38Sam

E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?

13:38Michael C

@Tamu, I agree... statistics given within the slides are really insignificant and losely quoted.

13:39Jason Bengtson

Too many publishers are just slapping text together and calling it an e-publication. We need to take advantage of the unique display and functional capabilities of these devices.

13:39Pat 2

I lived in Malaysia in 1996 and almost everyone had a mobile ph, but almost no one had a desktop. They were on a little known co called Nokia. America is def behind here.

13:39Sue Wise

Will this presentation be available after the fact?

13:39Mia Massicotte

We are still very much locked-in to land lines, so that's a big reason why mobile is behind in Norrth America

13:40vuDAT, MSU

agree with Jason. $$$ :(

13:40Barbara

They post presentation online later in the day

13:40EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning

@ Sue: Yes, we'll post all presentations on the mobile website:

13:40Mike Richichi

Plain geography is also difficult for US. mobile coverage. Either vastness or terrain.

13:40EDUCAUSE Boulder

@sue yes, within half an hour after the event

13:40Sue Wise

What about teacher training? Examples of mobile use/training to use mobile in teacher prep programs?

13:41Sam

E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?--> Important Question!!!

13:41Bonita Bray

could we get sources for the stats - folks will want to know if we use them

13:41UTHSC Houston

I believe the presentation will be available by 3:00

13:41Jason Bengtson

We're also tied to profit systems that are too antiquated. We need to start moving web channels, including mobile to the public utility realm, like Europe has in many places.

13:41Debbie Malcangi 4

What's more important: Making course content portable or creating applications that support learning and engagement in the classroom?

13:41Oxford College of Emory University

@Sue Wise - fabulous Question. Judy, can you answer Sue Wise's question?

13:41Qi

Adoption of m-learning may be easier for the countries that don't have to transit from laptop to mobile devices. They can just jump into it.

13:41Sam

E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?

13:42Shannon Smith

Touche!

13:42Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

Being behind is not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps we can leap ahead if we can figure out what's coming next...

13:42Sam

QUESTION...E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?

13:42Debbie Malcangi 4

@Sam: The publishers have to play ball.

13:42Sue Schulte - Humber College

Will the chat logs be posted as well?

13:42Sam

Why cant the universities drive it?

13:43Bernie Holmes

What about emulators for mobile webapp testing, what about remote labs?

13:43Sam

Why leave all the gravy train (etextbooks ) to the for profit Publishers?

13:43EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning

@ Sue: Yes, we'll post the chat as a resource as well.

13:43Jason Bengtson

The publishers have systematically fought digital- they basically sank the rocket e-book. Amazon forced them to change their tune . . . slightly. I think the best thing for everyone would be if other players moved in to replace them.

13:43Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University

A crutch replaces a bad leg - mobile can enhance, not replace, something that already works

13:43Gina Bennett - COTR

@debbie malcangi 4: I think the classroom as the primary delivery platform for learning is past its time.

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13:43Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

For universities to drive it you would have to know what your students are thinging. We are talking about 20 yr olds!!!

13:43Sam

Hi Dr. Brown...would love to hear your opinion: E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?

13:44Debbie Malcangi 4

@Gina - I don't think we're there yet, but headed in that direction.

13:44daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock

@Christopher: You can learn a lot by observing interaction. Behavior often is more truthful than surveying "what they are thinking".

13:45Jason Bengtson

Open source textbook publishing is promising, but it's still an exteremly nascent and limited exercise. Academics don't want to self publish, either, because we don't get much credit for that with our institution.

13:45Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

True Daniel. My work study students give me just that. I speak with them everyday

13:45Liberty University 2

Besides Abilene Christian, what other universities are driving mobile efforts?

13:45Thomas La Foe

How flexible can these mobile platforms be? How easy is it to implement a change that students demand?

13:45Clark Quinn

Judy mentioned purdue, and virginia tech

13:46UTHSC Houston

@Gina, I don't know that classroom is passed its prime, but agree that sage on the stage is not necessarily the best education model

13:46Willie George

Seton Hill is pushing mobile

13:46Jason Bengtson

We're trying at the University of New Mexico, but we're dealing with a lot of budget and staffing reductions . . . just like everyone.

13:46Willie George

Duke is starting to

13:46Michael Haan

It is nice to see some of the mainstream tools like InDesign CS5.5 and Quark 9 include e-pub tools.

13:46Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth

I have found that most of my work study students use their laptops for school and their phones for personal. Security drives the separation

13:46daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock

@Christopher: My favorite suggestion is "Your developers/academic support people should be observing someone using their LMS or tool every week, so you can make immediate changes quickly and in an ongoing basis."

13:46Liberty University 2

Are they pushing from a development standpoint, or from a "Get everyone a mobile device" effort?

13:47Jason Bengtson

I'm trying to develop and enhance our mobile content.

13:47Debbie Malcangi 4