March, 2000 IEEE P802.15-00/039r1
IEEE P802.15
Wireless Personal Area Networks
Project / IEEE P802.15 Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs)Title / TG1 Minutes from Albuquerque, March 2000
Date Submitted / 10 March, 2000
Source / [Pat Kinney]
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Re: / 802.15 Plenary Meeting in Albuquerque
Abstract / IEEE 802.15 Task Group #1 Minutes
Purpose / Official record of all 802.15 TG1 committee sessions during IEEE 802 Plenary session
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IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Plenary Meeting
802.15 Task Group 1 Minutes
Hyatt Regency Albuquerque
330 Tijeras NW
Albuquerque, NM. 87102
March 6-9, 2000
Monday, March 6, 2000
8:10 Chair called the meeting to order followed by a role call of all meeting attendees.
Objectives for the week:
· letter ballot 2 review
· planning for draft standard
· provide an overview of the EUI issue
8:20 TG chair reviewed the agenda (802.15-00/024r1). Motion to accept made by B Kraemer, seconded by Tom Siep. Hearing no discussion, motion approved by unanimous consent.
8:25 Minutes from last meeting (802.15-99/182r2) read by TG Secretary. Motion to approve minutes made by T Siep, seconded by A Heberling. Hearing no discussion, motion approved by unanimous consent.
8:26 TG Chair introduce officers
8:29 TG Chair reviewed the submissions planning for this week
8:31 TG Chair summarized LB2 (802.15-00/052r0)
9:00 TG editor summarized LB2. (802.15-00/065r1)
New Draft Issues:
· Recirculation or Reconsideration
· Time for Voting Process
· Editor availability
· Availability of Bluetooth 1.1
9:50 Review next steps/actions of the day (IEEE802.15-00/038r0)
9:53 TG chair entertained a motion to adjourn. Motion made by I Reede, seconded by B Kraemer, following no objections, motion passed.
Tuesday March 7, 2000
8:07 TG1 chair called the meeting to order.
8:08 I Gifford went through the proposed agenda for this morning.
8:11 Motion to approve the modified agenda was moved by T Siep and seconded by M McInnis, following no objections the modified agenda was approved.
8:12 T Siep began discussion of work to be done; four areas were identified:, Intro, SAPS, SDL/ANS1, and PICs Proforma.
8:15 Stewart Kerry interrupted T Siep to inform him that 802.11 was about to vote on whether or not the 802.11 chair should approve the 802.15 High Rate PAR during the EXCOM meeting. T Siep left to attend the 802.11 meeting.
8:18 TG1 chair began the meeting again.
Document 53 LB2-Reply-Comments
Flat file approach currently, need to track all comments
Will be a single line entry called comment replies in the D.06 Comment document.
8:36 T Siep began going through document IEEE 802.15-00/072r0 “Recirculation vs. Reconsideration”.
T Siep recommended the Reconsideration path.
8:48 I Gifford moved that motion #2, that IEEE802.15-00/038r0 “that the Working Group reconsider Letter Ballot #1”, be sent to the 802.15 Working Group. This motion was passed by unanimous consent within TG1.
9:00 I Gifford briefly discussed the EUI-64 letter to the RAC..
9:02 T Siep began discussion on SDLs with David Cypher, David asked what is the need for IEEE to do ANS1. The discussion direction turned toward discussing the question of the level of detail that the SDL should be developed. David suggested that if we verify behavior, this may be detailed enough for our SDL development. Comment: (D Cypher)- The names of the fields need to be agreed to first. Question: (D Cypher) Does the behavior of the SDL model match the behavior of the Bluetooth TTCN model? Note: (D Cypher) We are not testing the TTCN model with our SDL, and we are not testing our SDL model with the BT TTCN model. Matt Graney, Telelogic, was consulting. David suggested that we will have to write two SDL models, one for behavior and one for testing with the BT SIG Test and Certification group. T Siep suggested that we take a two step SDL approach, first: finish developing the SDL model for behavior verification, then convert those signal names in the behavior SDL model to the signal names needed for BT TTCN testing.
A Heberling will look at the BT TTCN structure and signal designations to address David’s issues and to rationalize/harmonize the SDL with the BT TTCN model. A Heberling suggested that we start an ANS1 package that mirrors the SDL package to make it easy to utilize with the BT TTCN test suite.
10:05 TG1 chair adjourned session for break
10:30 Meeting called back to order
10:30 Allen Heberling presented and discussed his SDL models with us.
10:46 It was decided that we could include the MSC (Message Sequence Charts) within the Draft Std. as an annex.
10:57 The question came up with A Heberling’s SDL models as to whether we will have two SDL models in our Standard, on where the HCI function is implied, and another where the HCI function is part of the SDL model. The most informative version is preferred which is was identified by A Heberling to be his SDL model version 1 where the HCI function is implied.
11:13 C Bisdikian suggested that an entity can be defined which combines both SDL models. D Cypher suggested that we go through each L2CAP signal to determine which signals require that an L2Cap connection to be set up and which ones do not.
11:24 C Bisdikian suggested that we go with SDL model two and describe the differences in the general overview section (section 5).
11:52 T Siep suggested (and C Bisdikian agrees) that we should go ahead with one (Allen’s version 1) normative SDL which matches the BT text, then provide a second SDL in the draft for informative reasons. Both of these SDL versions will be maintained.
12:00 I Gifford wanted to capture the action item to send a communication to the SIG on this discussion.
12:01 Ian adjourned the meeting for lunch.
1:20 TG1 chair opened the TG1 meeting.
1:22 A discussion began regarding the next version of the draft (0.7)and how comments will be made, responded to and incorporated during the voting process..
1:39 Since T Siep had not yet shown up to discuss SAP definitions this afternoon, the meeting was adjourned and ad-hoc meetings began on defining the L2CAP MLME and Pocket Guides.
Wednesday, March 08, 2000
8:15 TG1 chair opened the TG1 meeting
8:17 I Gifford modified the agenda (IEEE802.15-00/024r1). Motion to adopt was moved by T Siep seconded by M McInnis, following no objections the motion carried.
8:23 I Gifford announced that he will not be able to attend the May and July meetings.
8:30 Discussion ensued on plans for clause 8 (SAPS). It was decided that the SCO, LLC/L2CAP, and HCI SAPs will be defined in Clause 8, and a new clause (perhaps clause 6) will be created as an Architectural Overview describing the MLME concepts. Will send our diagrams to the BT Test and Verification group for concurrence on our approach.
9:02 I Gifford developed a draft release timeline that is included in document IEEE802.15-00/038.
9:03 T Siep went through the Copenhagen Face to Face minutes and the Action Items list in document 72r1
9:15 Arto Palin and Fujio Watanabe volunteered to begin working on the PICS
9:17 A telecon for March 16 with the Test group is proposed by T Siep to cover our co-simulation thoughts regarding TTCN and the SAP signal names. And perhaps set some SDL/BT Test Suite co-testing.
9:35 Meeting was adjourned for break.
10:16 Session reconvened.
TG1 Tech editor reviewed minutes from the Copenhagen meeting with BT SIG on SAPs, SDL, and PICs (IEEE802.15-00/074r1). Question: can we define a MAC/PHY interface? Reply: it’s not in our current plan. Action Item: T Siep to send Mårten Mattsson and attendees the status update and request both ASN.1 and Signal Names (with structures) from Mårten Mattsson.
10:57 Session adjourned
Thursday, March 09, 2000
8:28 TG1 chair called meeting to order
Discussion upon contents of the letter to the BT SIG, results are captured in document IEEE802.15-00/074r1.
10:25 Meeting adjourned.
IEEE 802.15 Plenary Meeting
Hyatt Regency Albuquerque
330 Tijeras NW Albuquerque, NM. 87102
March 6-9, 2000
Attendance List (87)
Full name / memstatus / % / phone / company / e_mailMr. Dimitri Alexandrou (Dimitri) / voter / 95 / +1 919 462 6544 / Atmel Corporation /
Mr. Richard Alfvin (Rick) / voter / 100 / +1 716 588 6166 / Eastman Kodak Company /
Mr. James Allen (Jim) / voter / 100 / +1 716 588 1906 / Eastman Kodak, Co /
Mr. Khaled Amer (Khaled) / nonvoter / 85 / +1 949 552 1114 / AmerNet /
Anne Atkinson () / nonvoter / 85 / (256) 922-9229 / Time Domain /
Mr. William Bailey (Bill) / voter / 85 / +1 408 526 5481 / Cisco Systems Inc. /
Mr. Thomas Baker (Tom) / aspirant / 100 / +1 610 712 3273 / Lucent Technologies /
Mr. John Barr () / nonvoter / 85 / (847) 576-8706 / Motorola /
Mr. Edul Batliwala (Edul) / voter / 100 / +1 617 551 7631 / Compaq Computer Corporation /
Dr. Chatschik Bisdikian (Chatschik) / voter / 100 / +1 914 784 7439 / IBM Corporation /
Mr. Jan Boer (Jan) / nonvoter / 15 / +31 30 609 7483 / Lucent Technologies Nederland /
Mr. Terrance Bourk () / nonvoter / 25 / (858) 404-6591 / Silicon Wave /
Mr. Matt Brandt () / nonvoter / 25 / (512) 895-2696 / Motorola /
Mr. Michael Camp () / nonvoter / 85 / (972) 759-2693 / Efficient Networks, Inc /
Mr. Grant Carlson () / nonvoter / 55 / (716) 253-5516 / Eastman Kodak
Mr. Michael Carrafiello () / nonvoter / 85 / (978) 684-1552 / Cabletron Systems /
Mr. Harshal Chhaya (Harshal) / voter / 100 / +1 972 917 2592 / Texas Instrument Inc. /
Mr. Ken Clements (Ken) / nonvoter / 85 / +1 408 353 5027 / Innovation On Demand, Inc. /
Mr. Todor Cooklev (Todor) / voter / 100 / +1 801-424-3869 / Aware, Inc. /
Mr. Wm. Caldwell Crosswy (Caldwell) / voter / 100 / +1 281 514 2774 / Compaq Computer Corporation /
Mr. David Cypher (Dave) / voter / 100 / +1 301 975 4855 / NIST /
Mr. Walt Davis () / nonvoter / 15 / (847) 576-3311 / Motorola /
Mr. Richard Ditch (Rich) / voter / 100 / +1 480 441 0809 / Motorola Personal Networking Group /
Mary DuVal () / nonvoter / 75 / (972) 575-2330 / Texas Instruments /
Mr. Michael Dydyk () / nonvoter / 100 / +1 480 441 2074 / Motorola Personal Networking Group /
Mr. Richard Eckard (Dick) / voter / 15 / +1 781 466 2780 / GTE Laboratories Inc. /
Mr. Kurt Fischer (Kurt) / voter / 100 / +1 925 280 7779 / Hyper Corporation /
Mr. Reed Fisher () / nonvoter / 15 / (678) 482-2471 / Oki America, Inc. /
Mr. Stephan Gehring () / nonvoter / 15 / (650) 812-3252 / Fantasma Networks /
Mr. Ian Gifford (Ian) / voter / 100 / +1 978 442 4650 / M/A-COM Inc. /
Mr. James Gilb () / nonvoter / 100 / (480) 491-2519 / Motorola /
Ms. Nada Golmie (Nada) / voter / 100 / +1 301 975 4190 / NIST /
Mr. Yanpeng Guo () / nonvoter / 60 / (408) 617-5931 / Philips Consumer Communications /
Mr. Simon Harrison () / nonvoter / 95 / +44 (0) 1753 661421 / Madge Networks Ltd. /
Mr. Allen Heberling (Allen) / voter / 100 / +1 716 588 1939 / Eastman Kodak, Co /
Dr. Chris Heegard (Chris) / nonvoter / 55 / +1 707 521 3062 / Alantro Communications /
Mr. Robert Heile (Bob) / voter / 100 / +1 781 466 2057 / GTE Internetworking Technologies /
Bonnie Holloway-Reeves () / nonvoter / 75 / Motorola
Mr. Masaki Hoshina (Masaki) / aspirant / 85 / +81 266 52 3131 / Seiko Epson Corporation /
Mr. Bill Huhn () / nonvoter / 15 / (425) 348-2659 / Intermec Technologies Corp. /
Mr. Bill Kelly () / nonvoter / 15 / (972) 221-9827 / WindRiver /
Mr. Patrick Kinney (Pat) / voter / 100 / +1 319 369 3593 / Intermec Technologies Corp. /
Mr. Tom Knight () / nonvoter / 40 / (530) 273-1064 / 3Com Corporation /
Mr. Bruce P. Kraemer (Bruce) / voter / 100 / +1 407 729 5683 / HARRIS Corporation /
Dr. Jim Lansford (Jim) / aspirant / 80 / +1 405 377 6170 / Mobilian Corporation /
Mr. Hyeong Ho Lee () / nonvoter / 10 / +82 42 860 6130 / ETRI /
Mr. David Leeper () / nonvoter / 45 / Intel Corporation /
Dr. Yunxin Li (Yunxin) / voter / 100 / +61 2 9666 0536 / Motorola Australian Research Center /
Mr. Hermann Loske () / nonvoter / 75 / +49 721 595 4915 / Siemens AG /
Mr. Kevin Marquess (Kevin) / voter / 100 / (925) 280-7779 / Hyper Corporation /
Mr. John McCorkle (John) / nonvoter / 100 / +1 301 614 1325 / XtremeSpectrum Inc. /
Mr. Daniel R. McGlynn (Daniel) / voter / 10 / +1 516 738 4627 / Symbol Technologies Inc. /
Mr. Michael D. McInnis (Mike) / voter / 100 / +1 425 865 2840 / The Boeing Company /
Mr. Martin Milbury () / nonvoter / 10 / (603) 337-5027 / Cabletron Systems /
Mr. Leslie Moore, JR. () / nonvoter / 30 / (716) 588-9505 / Eastman Kodak Co. /
Mr. Bob Morris () / aspirant / 30 / (512) 895-6018 / Motorola /
Mr. Arto Palin (Arto) / voter / 100 / +358 3 272 5672 / Nokia Research Center /
Mr. Ron Porat (Ron) / nonvoter / 55 / +1 619 535 8787 / National Seminconductor Corporation /
Mr. John Proctor () / nonvoter / 25 / (913) 624-6594 / Sprint /
Mr. Javad Razavilar () / nonvoter / 10 / (858) 674-8505 / 3Com Corporation /
Mr. Ivan Reede (Ivan) / voter / 95 / +1 514 620 8522 / AmeriSys Inc. /
Mr. Randy Rich () / nonvoter / 15 / (770) 729-3017 / Home Wireless Networks /
Mr. Carlos A. Rios (Carlos) / voter / 90 / +1 408 326 2844 / 3Com Corporation /
Mr. Richard Roberts (Rick) / nonvoter / 100 / (407) 724-7022 / Intersil Corporation /
Dr. Martin Rofheart (Martin) / nonvoter / 100 / +1 301 614 1324 / XtremeSpectrum Inc. /
Mr. Gunnar Rydnell () / nonvoter / 15 / +46 31 703 60 00 / Ericsson Mobile Data Design AB /
Mr. Chandos Rypinski (Chan) / nonvoter / 100 / +1 415 435 0642 / [Chandos] /
Mr. P. Taylor Salman () / nonvoter / 30 / (202) 364-4700 / OPNET Technologies Inc. /
Mr. Anil Sanwalka () / nonvoter / 15 / (416) 754-8007 / Neesus Datacom /
Mr. Sid Schrun () / nonvoter / 15 / Temporary dummy /
Mr. Karlheinz Schwarz (Karlheinz) / voter / 30 / +49 721 68 48 44 / Schwartz Consulting Company /
Dr. Stephen J. Shellhammer (Steve) / voter / 100 / +1 631 738 4302 / Symbol Technologies Inc. /
Mr. Matthew B. Shoemake (Matthew) / nonvoter / 85 / +1 707 521 3067 / Alantro Communications /
Mr. Alan Sicher () / nonvoter / 45 / (512) 723-5483 / Dell Computer Corp. /
Mr. Thomas Siep (Tom) / voter / 100 / +1 972 480 6786 / Texas Instruments /
Mr. Nick Stapleton (Nick) / voter / 15 / +44 1442 438092 / 3Com Europe Ltd. /
Mr. Michael Stewart () / nonvoter / 15 / (310) 318-2983 / eSCAPE Communications, Inc. /
Mr. Jerry Thrasher () / nonvoter / 30 / (606) 232-2056 / Lexmark International, Inc. /
Mr. Steve Torp (Steve) / voter / 100 / +1 847 413 2571 / Motorola Semiconductor Products, Inc. /
Mr. Mike Trompower (Mike) / nonvoter / 45 / +1 330 664 2082 / Telxon Corporation /
Mr. Anthony Tsangaropoulos () / nonvoter / 85 / (650) 838-2232 / interWAVE Communications International Ltd. /
Pro Dhadesugoor R. Vaman () / nonvoter / 60 / +1 301 540 2600 / Megaxess USA /
Mr. Tim Wakeley () / nonvoter / 60 / (916) 785-1619 / Hewlett-Packard Company /
Dr. Fujio Watanabe (Fujio) / voter / 100 / +358 40 733 4479 / Nokia Research Center /
Mr. Richard Wilson (Dick) / voter / 100 / +1 415 921-3417 / IDmicro /
Mr. Edward Wong () / nonvoter / 10 / (603) 337-5074 / Cabletron Systems /
Mr. Isaac Wong () / nonvoter / 15 / (408) 350-5837 / ishoni Networks /
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