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13:02Bill Drummond
Love the Format, Interruptions, Conclusions, and Goal.
13:03Susan Lieberthal
cant hear
13:03Emporia State UNiversity
Choppy audio. Can't hear
13:03Elise
hard to hear the speaker
13:03Raj
cant hear
13:03Kari Kumar
Audio is quiet
13:03Rutgers University Information Technology
the audio is not loud enough
13:03Tim Dennis
speak up!
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13:03Tim Merritt
yes, please turn up Josh's mic
13:03Nancy Adams
i loved that ECAR paper
13:03Rutgers University Information Technology
it's not on our end
13:03Guest 7
Closer to mic please
13:03Emporia State UNiversity
Not speakers. Chopy beyond detection
13:03Regan Myers
as loud as it goes
13:03Kevin
my volume is up to the max
13:03Kevin
still is very low
13:03Marty Hoag (NDSU)
or turn down Steve's. ;-)
13:03Ahmad Zorkani
I think we all agree, our speakers are at their highest
13:03Susan Lieberthal
loudest still not loud enought
13:04Kevin
I could hear the intro better
13:04Roxann Riskin
many echos
13:04David Stack UW-Milwaukee
Playing the audio through my stereo to get it loud enough.
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13:04Bill Drummond
Convergence or collision?
13:04Raj
still low - turning up client blows things out when the mod speaks
13:04Jeff Kosokoff
lots fo static when turned up
13:04Pamela Gades
many echos/reverb
13:04Emporia State UNiversity
Can't understand a word
13:04John
I'm getting a bad echo
13:04Ahmad Zorkani
we're all at MAX, right?
13:04Rutgers University Information Technology
we're at max volume - still not loud enough
13:04Elise
I'm as high as I can go. Please turn up on your end or this is a waste!
13:04Regan Myers
yes he needs to speak louder
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13:04Roxann Riskin 2
if you have an extra conference window open you will get echos
13:05Steve Carnes - U of MN
Ditto - I'm at max. It's clear, just quite low.
13:05Daniel Bracken
fine here
13:05Timothy Paige
Volume is fine and balance .
13:05Emporia State UNiversity
Still can't understand a word here
13:05Gregg Johnson
Same here. Clear but quiet. And I'm in a public room.
13:05Regan Myers
dialed in much better
13:05Kevin
not fine, way too low for our group audience
13:05Melaine
Had to turn up audio on computer, not just volume knob. Now can hear fine.
13:05Diane
he's fine here also
13:05Barbara Pittman
fine here in my headset
13:05John
Phone simulcast is perfect
13:06Kevin
don't have a phone
13:06Rutgers University Information Technology
we had to go to external speakers
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13:06Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
I opened the volume control and turned master and Wave to max
13:07Mathieu (U. of Delaware)
Is there a hashtag for this event? I propose #kimlc
13:08Chahira
Hello everyone! Hey Math #kimlc sounds good :)
13:09Ahmad Zorkani
had to go to headphones
13:09guest 10
sound isfine
13:09Elise
had to go to phone
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13:09Tim Merritt 2
My sound is fine
13:09Kari Kumar
headphones are okay
13:09Guest 7
still cannot hear wll
13:09Ahmad Zorkani
phones won't work for outside USA
13:09Ying
sound is fine to me too
13:09Anthony@Dartmouth
external speakers here
13:09Timothy Paige
Things are fine and clear, have plenty of spare volume.
13:09Brian Mulligan, Ireland
Can skype in from outside usa
13:10guest 10
what is the status of opencast
13:10University of New Mexico
Do you think course systems like Blackboard will include lecture capture functionality? Or does it know?
13:10Janice Hilyard
I am intrested in HR committment to maintaining anad operating these systems. Is there a comparative analysis somewhere on the Web?
13:10University of New Mexico
now not know
13:11Nancy Adams
we have an AV specialist that maintains the system, but as the University Librarian I'm responsible for content organization, policy, etc.
13:11Bill Drummond
Echo 360 is partially free with Blackboard
13:11Cheryl Todd Meredith College
BB is using echo
13:11Koos Winnips
there is a Blackboard building block for iTunes...
13:11Nancy Adams
it's a huge job; not "set it and forget it" the way it was marketed to us
13:11Elaine Garofoli
if you use Wimba Classroom as part of BB, then yes, you can archive those sessions
13:11Mathieu (U. of Delaware)
UD has a home-grown system called UDCapture. Commercial products too expensive.
13:11Ahmad Zorkani
Would Wimba Classroom that works within BB qualify as lecture capture product?
13:11Susan Lieberthal
It has to be easy, easy to edit, easy easy, so far I find Adobe connect the best
13:11Nancy Adams
@ Ahmad. I don't think it is
13:12Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
What about Speakerbox by Clearsky, are they still around?
13:12Elaine Garofoli
@Nancy our faculty capture their sessions regularly
13:12Daniel Bracken
Wimba require a bit more expertise to manage both a face to face and online
13:12Guest 7
USD is likely going to Adobe connect pro
13:12Julio Mata
University of Central Oklahoma is currenlty implementing Accordent Technologies. What are your toughts on this?
13:12Nancy Adams
profs are not using it; i'm hoping that getting a group together to come up with a set of policies (like who owns the content???) will help with adoption
13:12Bill Drummond
Web conferencing, like this tool we are usingknow
13:13kris anderson
wimba does capture lectures and can download to mobile devices
13:13Guest 7
Wimba has propriatary format and is therefore more restictive in publishing options
13:13Kimberly Gibson
Wimba Class Live is already an excellent Lecgture Capture system--which integrates beautifully with BB
13:13Ahmad Zorkani
It works like Acrobat connect. W
13:13Brian Mulligan, Ireland
Wimba is like Connect Pro - it can be used as a lecture capture system but not easy enough to use - ease of use is a key issue in lecture capture.
13:13guest 4
Just went throught a Relay webinar this morning and it was great.
13:13Karen
What about Cisco WebEx?
13:13Koos Winnips
do you think the different tools have any different effect on learning?
13:13Michael Willits - ODU
really interested in possibility of opencast later this year
13:13Kari Kumar
We use Adobe Connect Pro for tuturials to complement asynchronous LMS Camtasia recordings at UOIT
13:13guest 4
Techsmith has been doing Screencasting for over 10 years.
13:14Nancy Adams
@Koos: I keep looking for research, but it is few and far between
13:14kris anderson
lecture capture systems on mobile devices? do you see growth?
13:14Vic Divecha
Cisco WebEx primarily used for Jack Bauer on 24 ;)
13:14David Yonutas
What type of $$$ range are we looking at with these systems?
13:14Bill Drummond
I'm waiting for an app students can use for themselves
13:14Michael Willits - ODU
somewhere there has to be a comprehensive overview comparison of popular systems?
13:14Koos Winnips
@Nancy Adams: I've writing a wee bit myself... ;)
13:14Janis DesMarais - Holy Cross
When we say "lecture capture" does that mean capture of the screen presentation, but not the physical instructor talking?
13:14Nancy Adams
@ David: implementing our system with 3 servers and 12 enabled classrooms with in-room cameras cost about $60K
13:14Brian Mulligan, Ireland
Please comment on the importance of ease of use - record and publish'
13:14David 6
Cisco's recent acquisition of Tandberg and Webex seem like a natural fit for a turnkey LC solution.
13:14Jeff Kosokoff
yes, we need a definition of "Lecture capture" It isn't clear what is meant by that term
13:15kris anderson
thoughts on mobile devices?
13:15Nancy Adams
@ Janis: you can do that, but it usually includes physical instructor as talking head
13:15Mathieu (U. of Delaware)
How important is it to include video in lecture capture. My belief is that screen recording with audio is sufficient. Any thoughts?
13:15Nancy Adams
but where is the research?
13:15kathleen
We are searching for a solution that creates 1 file - we don't want an output with thousands of files and then something that is proprietary
13:15Maud Mundava
What is lecture capture? not clear to me as well
13:15guest 10
Is there any standard like IEEE for lecture capture system
13:15Tiffany
What do you tell faculty who want to keep their lectures "private?"
13:16Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
Tegrity has a student recording feature
13:16Brian Nielsen
May slides 1 through 10 be viewed?
13:16Brian Mulligan, Ireland
My defn: Lecture capture - recording lecture actiity with 'minimum effort'
13:16Nancy Adams
@ Tiffany: good luck! Our system can actually lock down presentations by adding a password layer
13:16guest 12
What is your thoughts on professional development for faculty on lecture capture?
13:16Kimberly Gibson
Kathleen, Wimba Class Live provides a MP3 or MP4 download--one file
13:16Janis DesMarais - Holy Cross
We use a flip camera on a tiny tripod that caputures the lecturer and the screen behind/next to them. The screen is blurry, but it is good enough for review. Someone here downloads the file and converts it to Flash for web load.
13:16Jim Twetten - Iowa State U.
we're looking for a scalable solution (i.e.-software only) that doesn't creep into six figures for licensing.
13:16WPI ATC
Does Josh have a presentation to give us?
13:16David Yonutas
Technology is a small piece. Faculty training on how to do their presentations in an effective method (recorded is different than "live" in some respects.
13:16B
Panopto's Socrates project is free-ish to edu, competes with opencast?
13:16Koos Winnips
University of Groningen is indeed moving towards desktop recording, for short fragments, but also for student recordings
13:16Bill Drummond
Podcasting on steriods
13:16Nancy Adams
@guest 12: I think you have to get faculty to just do it and see how their students get to rely on it. Then they will do it more and more.
13:17Michael Willits - ODU
right now, it takes a 3-hour workshop to explain audio capture and integration with Bb. Not acceptable if want to scale to more faculty.
13:17Elise
podcast producer and iTunesU - can view presentations on iPod
13:17Tiffany
@ Nancy - we still have difficulties convincing faculty to make our recordings available to students, I can give them stats about how it's good for students, but they're still stubborn :p
13:17Guest 7
Interesting point about lecture capture. A recent Carnegie Mellon study showed a large percentage of student preferences for audion only.
13:17Nancy Adams
Also @ guest12: it should be so easy that they just let someone know that they want to be recorded, then just wear the mic, there should be nothing else to do.
13:17Kimberly Gibson
Iowa State--Wimba, because it was designed specifically for educational purposes tends to be significantly less expensive for campus-wide deployment.
13:17David Yonutas
Also ADA compliance issues are important.
13:17Peter Van Leeuwen
comments on the importance & impact of student recordings to meet effective communication outcomes for online courses
13:17Doug Mills
@ Mathieu -- surveys of our students here indicate they think the video is very important
13:17Guest 7
They prefered the audio as they would be driving, excercising etc. Video must add true value.
13:18Steve Carnes - U of MN
Yes - where is accessibility in all of this?
13:18Nancy Adams
Much video does not add any value; esp. talking head
13:18Janice Hilyard
Looks like current technology is trying to re-invent telecourses:)
13:18Brian Mulligan, Ireland
Combined with 'smartboard' can capture spontaneous work.
13:18Kimberly Gibson
yes, Guest 7, content should drive the choices for file type
13:18David 6
At our medical school, the students rely very heavily on captured lectures. The time demands almost preclude attendance at live lectures.
13:18Vic Divecha
Umich (Public Health) also had old data saying headshot is not important, but the trend is changing to "headshot reqd"
13:18kathleen
capturing audio in a live situation is easy for our institution. We have a streamlined podcast system. Video, however, remains the BIG hurdle.
13:18Ahmad Zorkani
In 07 it wasn't as easy to have video online as it is now
13:18guest 12
@Nancy Adams: I agree it should be easy but I think there is a great opportunity to help faculty improve their lectures
13:18Nancy Adams
I think the best way for us to use it is in building knowledge libraries of "problem solving techniques" , etc.
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13:19Jeff Kosokoff
"videoless" is a trick when a blackboard/whiteboard is involved. Are we talking about smartboards instead of black/white boards?
13:19Nancy Adams
@ guest 12: yes, any time we can review our performance it will lead to improvement, hopefully
13:19Janet Sedgley
How can we address the needs of the deaf, hard of hearing and those of us who are struggling more to hear as we age?
13:19Kimberly Gibson
We have had tremendous success also combining Tablet PCs with Lecture Capture
13:19Bill Drummond
Classroom capture vs. lecture capture
13:20Miles Jackson
Are most institutions protecting lectures through Digital Rights Management?
13:20Steve Carnes - U of MN
Yes, please.....I hate to repeat myself, but it's VERY important - what about accessibility?
13:20Nancy Adams
classroom capture is what we would love, but currently our own technology is very lecture-based
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13:20Nancy Adams
@ Steve :basically, my guess is no accessibility for those who are deaf.
13:20kathleen
yuck proprietary
13:21Mathieu (U. of Delaware)
@kathleen: agreed.
13:21Nancy Adams
@ Steve: but now, this slide says closed captioning
13:22George Gaudette
Echo360 uses Amazon's closed captioning service -- it's automated, Amazon gets course content but destroys after converting text to speech
13:22Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
re: copyright - behind authentication is not a guarentee
13:22Robert Voelker-Morris
Didn't UCLA just get in trouble for posting video clips, even on a password protected site?
13:22Marty Hoag (NDSU)
is about the UCLA issue.
13:23Peter Van Leeuwen
proprietary=cost of high learning curve for faculty when migrating away from a particular vendor
13:23Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
@Marty - UCLA caved even though material was behind pwd protected sites
13:23Jim O'Connor
Using media like film is a copyright issue in online classes. Why would it not be if it's done through lecture capture?
13:24Tracy Mitrano 2
Is authentication sufficient? Teach Act has more requirements than authentication ... per the UCLA issue that others have already mentioned.
13:24Marty Hoag (NDSU)
Right, issue is that online is not face-to-face as I recall
13:24Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
Teach Act applies to online only, not F2F lecture recording
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13:25Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
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13:26Koos Winnips
F2F classes will become open, soon everyones phone will be able to publish directly to youtube from their phone...
13:27Mathieu (U. of Delaware)
The other side of this is that storage and bandwidth are getting cheaper and cheaper, so hosting locally is not such a big deal anymore.
13:28Beth F.
Surely YouTube EDU storage is not unlimited
13:29Kimberly Gibson
Beth, YouTube EDU and iTunesU storage is limited by university's storage capabilities
13:29WPI ATC
Gaulladet uses Echo360
13:29Beth F.
So, YouTube cantent is stored locally by the institution. Storage for iTunes is off site (hosted by Apple)
13:30Kathie Brinkman
iTunes can be either -- hosted by Apple or onsite
13:30WPI ATC
Not any more Beth - storage is now hosted by the institution for new customers
13:30Kimberly Gibson
Beth, both iTunesU and YouTube EDU provides some, limited off-site storage, but institutions can also choose to store locally
13:31Beth F.
Good to know. Kathie and WPI, thanks.
13:32Steve 2
How is caputuring realtime lecture a pedagogical innovation?
13:32Kimberly Gibson
YES!! This point about classroom time being freed up for active learning is THE big advantage
13:32Brian Mulligan, Ireland
OR they can engage online in the LMS or in social media.
13:32Koos Winnips
do you know of systems that integrate sms commenting and lecture capture? (we might help building one)
13:32Mathieu (U. of Delaware)
Great point. Lecture capture can leverage active learning in class. Inverts the model: Absorb content on your own, discuss in class.
13:32Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
It is questionable that the UCLA material shouldn't have been posted
13:32Tim Merritt 2
Can Josh discuss a low-cost workflow incorporating either youtube/edu or itunes? what camcorder, processing apps, etc
13:32David 4
How long do you keep the lectures available?
13:32Steve 2
@Matieu - that's only true if the lecture is not taking up the live class time.
13:32Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
They were threatened and they suspended the material
13:33Kimberly Gibson
Yes, Steve
13:33Mathieu (U. of Delaware)
@Steve 2 - Of course.
13:33Jerry Lewis, CBC WA
Ease of use is something you get with some of the commercial software
13:33Steve 2
A better model is to record lecture content outside of class time. Have students watch it outside of class time. Spend f2f class time differently.
13:34Nancy Adams
@Steve2: Totally agree
13:34Tim Merritt 2
@Steve 2: that's a good model, but it can really increase prep time
13:34Kimberly Gibson
Yes, Steve 2, but this raises the issue of increased work load for faculty and how they should be compensated
13:34Tim Merritt 2
also some instructors *hate* talking just to a camera
13:35Elise
iTunes U is as easy as you tube to access.
13:35Steve Carnes - U of MN
Yes - wasn't there a university that had students in their large intro to psych course watch all the lectures on line and then they were able to spend class time in good discussion?