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CAPTIONING

NOVEMBER 21, 2014

CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE

***This is not an official, verbatim transcript of the ***following meeting. It should be used for informational ***purposes only. This document has not been edited; ***therefore, there may be additions, deletions, or words ***that did not translate.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 21 MEETING OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

WE WILL CALL FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND SPENCER.

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

THANK YOU.

AND MS. LOWRY, WOULD YOU READ THE EXPLANATION?

>LEE LOWRY: CERTAINLY.

THE PURPOSE AND SCOPE OF THE ACTIVITIES OF THIS COMMITTEE SHALL BE THE FOLLOWING: TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE COUNTY ISSUES AS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OR BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR; TO INITIATE PROPOSALS AND FORWARD THEM TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACTION.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: THANK YOU.

NOW I THINK WE'LL START GOING AROUND THE ROOM, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHO APPOINTED YOU.

SPENCER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START?

>SPENCER KASS: SURE.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY, AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

SPENCER KASS, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER SANDY MURMAN.

> KIMBER WILLIAMS, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER KEN HAGAN.

[LAUGHTER]

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I THINK IT WAS VICTOR CRIST.

> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]

> JOE WICKER, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER AL HIGGINBOTHAM.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: BARBARA ADERHOLD, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER BECKNER.

> KAY DOUGHTY, APPOINTED BY FORMER COMMISSIONER MARK SHARPE.

> LEE LOWRY, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER KEN HAGAN.

> ROIA BARRIOS, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER BECKNER.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: THANK YOU.

I WANT TO READ FOR THE RECORD THAT WENDELL AND GAYE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MORNING'S MEETING.

AND NEXT UP IS PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH I REALLY THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING, BUT SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO TO THE REVIEW OF THE MEETING RECAP.

IT'S IN YOUR FOLDER.

IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT IT, THEN WE'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE OR A MOTION.

>SPENCER KASS: MOVE TO APPROVE.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: DO I HEAR A SECOND?

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

GOOD.

WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS MORNING THE COMMITTEE-- WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND MEET ABOUT IN 2015.

WE HAVE A SPEAKER COMING AT 9:00, AND THEN, OF COURSE, AT 10:00, BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME PLANNING DONE BEFORE WE HEAD INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

SO IN OUR FOLDER, WE HAVE OUR TENTATIVE MEETING SCHEDULE, WHICH REALLY STICKS TO THE FOURTH FRIDAY OF THE MONTH, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TENTATIVE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT.

DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY ON WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO HEAR, SEE?

SPENCER.

>SPENCER KASS: SURPRISE, SURPRISE.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I AM, I AM SHOCKED.

>SPENCER KASS: I GUESS I CAN'T DO UNDERGROUNDING BECAUSE THE COUNTY PASSED AN UNDERGROUNDING ORDINANCE.

JUST SO WE ALL KNOW, THEY ACTUALLY DID THAT.

I WON'T DO LED BECAUSE KIMBER WILL BEAT ME.

BUT THIS IS THE BIG BUDGET YEAR FOR THE COUNTY.

SO WHAT I WAS THINKING WAS, ESPECIALLY BEFORE WE GET TO OUR JOINT MEETING, MAYBE WE WANT TO HAVE, SAY-- AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM MR. MERRILL HOW THE COUNTY IS OUT OF MONEY IN A COUPLE MINUTES-- MAYBE WE WANT TO DO DEPARTMENTS COMING DOWN HERE TWO AT A TIME STARTING WITH WHATEVER THE LARGEST-- LARGER BUDGET ONES ARE, COME DOWN HERE, TELL US WHAT THEY DO, LET THEM SHOW US THEIR ORG CHARTS--

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: KIND OF LIKE THE BUSINESS PLANS THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE?

>SPENCER KASS: YEAH, THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IMPLEMENTED.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD I LOOK TO SEE WHICH OUR FORMER CHAIRMAN DISCUSSED IS EVERY YEAR THERE HAVE BEEN CUTS TO THESE DEPARTMENTS, AND YET THINGS STILL FUNCTION FINE.

THIS YEAR THERE WEREN'T THE CUTS; THERE WERE RAISES AND GROWTH IN I THINK VIRTUALLY EVERY DEPARTMENT.

SO MAYBE WE WANT TO HAVE THEM COME DOWN WITH PLANS.

SORT OF LIKE THE COUNTY AND THE CITY USED TO DO WELL, WHERE, IF WE REDUCED IT 3%, 5%, 10%, THIS IS HOW WE'D STILL OPERATE.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

BUT IT WILL BE SORT OF A TIME CRUNCH TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING.

THAT MIGHT TIE UP LITERALLY ALL OF OUR MEETINGS-- IF WE DO TWO DEPARTMENTS, IT WILL PROBABLY TIE US UP PROBABLY UNTIL THE JOINT MEETING.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S THOUGHTS ARE.

I JUST WANT TO GET THROUGH .

>KAY DOUGHTY: COULD I FOLLOW UP ON THAT?

I THINK WE SHOULD ASK MR. MERRILL.

THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST WHERE EITHER THE BOARD OR ADMINISTRATOR HAS HAD AREAS OF CONCERN.

BUT FOLLOWING UP ON THE POINTS YOU MADE-- AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS I'VE HAD IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DISCUSSED UNDER OUR PREVIOUS CHAIR WAS THAT RECESSIONS FORCE GOVERNMENTS TO OPERATE LIKE BUSINESSES AND TO MAKE THOSE CUTS, AND WHEN MONEY IS FLOWING, THEN THINGS JUST EXPAND.

AND YOU KNOW, WE-- I THINK WE EXPRESSED FAIRLY CLEARLY OUR CONCERN OVER THAT ISSUE; THAT AS--

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: THE MONEY COMES BACK--

>KAY DOUGHTY: YOU KNOW, AS THE GOVERNMENT GOT MORE EFFICIENT, THEN LOOKING AT WAYS OF BECOMING MORE EFFECTIVE WITH FEWER PEOPLE AND WHATEVER, THAT THEY DIDN'T JUST AUTOMATICALLY EXPAND.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I WONDER IF-- DEPENDING ON WHERE WE GO WITH THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION-- THAT WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THE RECESSION, DURING THE RECESSION, AND NOW WHERE WE ARE GOING FORWARD IN 2015.

WOULD THAT GIVE A PICTURE?

>KAY DOUGHTY: THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BARBARA.

I MEAN, WE MIGHT START WITH MR. MERRILL.

WHAT ARE HIS PROJECTIONS?

WHERE DOES HE SEE CHANGE AND WHY?

>SPENCER KASS: SO MAYBE JANUARY WE HAVE MR. MERRILL COME HERE AND SPEND A FULL SESSION WITH US, AND THEN AS HE GOES, WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE DEPARTMENTS FOR FEBRUARY, MARCH, AND APRIL, AND THEN BY THE TIME WE ARE UP TO OUR JOINT MEETING, WE CAN EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS TO THE JOINT MEETING, MAYBE.

> MAYBE YOU SHOULD ASK HIM AT THIS MEETING, AND THEN WE CAN GET STARTED AND GO DOWN.

>SPENCER KASS: THAT'S FINE.

I THINK HE IS GOING TO SAY HE IS NOT PREPARED, BUT--

> OH, GIVE HIM SOME CREDIT.

>SPENCER KASS: OKAY.

>KAY DOUGHTY: YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING THAT UP, I WOULD LIKE THE SHERIFF TO PRESENT BECAUSE HE'S-- THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE RECESSIONARY PERIOD, SHERIFF GEE HAS REALLY BEEN A TEAM PLAYER IN LOOKING AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND MAKING SIGNIFICANT CUTS AS WELL AND WHAT ARE HIS PLANS, BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG PART OF OUR BUDGET.

>SPENCER KASS: SO MAYBE WE JUST HAVE ONE DAY FOR THE SHERIFF AND MAYBE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

>KAY DOUGHTY: CONSTITUTIONALS.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: CRISTAN?

>CRISTAN FADAL: I WAS GOING TO SAY THE LIBRARY SYSTEM.

AS WE GO FORWARD, WHERE DOES THE COUNTY SEE THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE BUILDINGS AND WHAT MAYBE FUTURE UTILIZATION OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES AND STUFF FOR OTHER PURPOSES OR ADDITIONAL PURPOSES.

SO I'D BE CURIOUS TO FIND THAT OUT.

I CAN ASK MIKE MERRILL NOW, BUT WHAT'S THE LONG-TERM PLAN FIVE, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY DIGITAL, BOOKS AND-- WHAT BECOMES OF THOSE FACILITIES, AND HOW IS THE COUNTY PLANNING FOR THOSE?

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SOME INPUT ON THIS ONE?

I LOVE ALL THESE IDEAS.

WHAT I THINK BETH AND I CAN WORK ON, TALK TO MR. MERRILL, AND THEN COME UP WITH A LIST OF ITEMS AND THEN SEND IT BACK OUT.

>SPENCER KASS: I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL, AT LEAST TO ME, IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO SHOW DEPARTMENTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COME DOWN HERE, ALSO JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR BUDGETS ARE RELATIVE TO THE WHOLE.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE HAVE, SAY, ONE MEETING WITH CONSTITUTIONAL GROUPS, ONE WITH SMALLER GROUPS LIKE THE LIBRARY, ANIMAL CONTROL, YOU KNOW, THOSE LITTLER GROUPS, AND THEN ONE WITH THE BIGGEST, YOU KNOW-- AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT BREAKS DOWN IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR SPENDING IN THE BUILDING.

MAYBE THAT GETS US SOMEWHERE.

BECAUSE-- AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM FOCUSING ON THE SMALLER STUFF, BUT THERE PROBABLY ISN'T THAT MUCH MONEY TO LOOK INTO THERE; WHEREAS, THE BIGGER ONES, I'M SURE THERE'S--

>KAY DOUGHTY: WELL, ONE AREA, YOU KNOW, IS THE COUNTY'S HEALTHCARE PLAN AND WHERE DOES THAT STAND NOW THAT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IS GOING FORWARD.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: OKAY.

I LISTENED TO MR. MERRILL AT THE MPO, MAYBE IT WAS LAST WEEK, AND HIS STATEMENT WAS TWO-THIRDS OF THE BUDGET GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND BASIC UTILITY SERVICES.

AND THAT'S $3 BILLION, I THINK, IS THE BUDGET.

SO WE'RE DOING-- SO HAVING THE SHERIFF, THE FIRE, AND THE CONSTITUTIONALS, IF THEY AGREE TO COME, I THINK IS SOMETHING--

>KAY DOUGHTY: THEY USUALLY DO.

THERE'S NOT USUALLY A PROBLEM.

I MEAN, THE SHERIFF-- I MEAN, WE KNOW THE SHERIFF BECAUSE THAT'S THE JOB IS GOVERNMENT IS THE PROTECTION OF THE CITIZENS, SO I MEAN, THAT'S--

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WILL BE WHAT IS CONSIDERED BASIC UTILITY SERVICES?

AND THE REMAINDER GOES TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

SO I'D LIKE TO FIND THAT ANSWER OUT AS WELL.

> I HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICK, SINCE I'M NEW.

IS THERE A COPY OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET SOMEWHERE THAT I COULD LOOK AT IT JUST--

> ONLINE.

> IT IS ONLINE ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE?

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I THINK JUST GO ON, AND UNDER THE SEARCH, JUST SAY COUNTY'S BUDGET, AND WATCH YOUR COMPUTER EXPLODE AS IT STARTS TO--

>KAY DOUGHTY: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY BETH MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A CD OF IT FOR YOU.

> I'LL TRY ONLINE.

>SPENCER KASS: ALWAYS REMEMBER WITH THE COUNTY BUDGET, IT'S A TWO-YEAR BUDGET, SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS OUR BIG YEAR IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE ANY ADJUSTMENTS.

HOPEFULLY, SOME OF THOSE, WE HAD GOTTEN A PRESENTATION EARLY IN THE YEAR, THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE CHANGES TO HOW THEY BOOK SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THAT WOULD BE IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET BOOK.

SO WE WILL SEE IF THEY WILL HAVE THE COURTESY OF COLOR CODING IT AND SHOWING WHAT'S ON SCHEDULE, WHAT'S OFF SCHEDULE, WHAT'S GETTING ACCOMPLISHED.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: LEFTOVER MONIES.

TOM WAS DOING THAT ONE.

[OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS]

> WE'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE IF THEY FINALLY DID THAT CHANGE FOR THE NONPROFIT.

THAT'S STILL A BUG IN MY BONNET.

YOU KNOW?

WITH HIS LED LIGHTS, I'M STILL STUCK ON NONPROFIT.

>SPENCER KASS: I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THAT.

>KAY DOUGHTY: WE CAN-- OUR HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE.

> I KNOW.

GOING TO WATCH IT GO PING!

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I THINK IT'S A TOPIC FOR WHEN THE COMMISSIONERS-- WHAT'S THE TERM?

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: THE BOARD RETREAT?

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: YES, THE BOARD RETREAT.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: THEY ARE GOING TO GO RETREAT AND TALK ABOUT MY NONPROFITS?

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: JUST BECAUSE OF YOU, KIM, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS WORKING.

YEAH?

> THEY HAVE THEIR BOARD RETREAT NEXT MONTH, AND I WAS TOLD THAT IS AN ITEM ON THEIR LIST FOR DISCUSSION.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: WHAT NUMBER AM I?

> NUMBER ONE, KIMBER.

[LAUGHTER]

SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR ON THE NOT-FOR-PROFITS.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: GREAT.

THANK YOU.

>KAY DOUGHTY: I THINK THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME FOR ME TO SAY MY LITTLE MANTRA THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THIS COMMITTEE TAKES TWO OR THREE YEARS TO HAPPEN.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: I'VE NOTICED.

IT'S A LITTLE SLOW FOR ME.

>KAY DOUGHTY: WELL, JUST HAVING BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: MAYBE TWO YEARS IS CONSIDERED QUICK.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT.

> ONE THING WE DISCUSSED LAST YEAR THAT I THOUGHT WAS HELPFUL WAS BACK WHEN WE HAD THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE-- I THOUGHT THAT WAS IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH AFTER-- OR MAYBE BEFORE-- I FORGOT WHEN WE HAD IT, BUT THAT WOULD BE-- I THOUGHT WE ALL LIKED THAT.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: YEAH, WE DID LIKE THAT.

YOU WILL BE GETTING READY TO GO UP AGAIN; RIGHT?

>BETH PYTLIK: I WILL BE GOING UP.

SESSION STARTS THE FIRST TUESDAY OF MARCH.

WE ALREADY HAVE THE PROGRAM COMPLETED.

IT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON OCTOBER 2.

THEN I WILL BE GOING UP IN MARCH AND BE BACK THE BEGINNING OF MAY.

SO I CAN LET YOU KNOW ALL ABOUT THE PROGRAM BEFOREHAND, AND THEN THE RESULTS AFTERWARD.

>KAY DOUGHTY: THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND WHEN IS THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION DAY?

>BETH PYTLIK: DECEMBER 9.

DECEMBER 9.

I CAN SEND OUT THE INFO ON THAT MEETING TO EVERYONE AS WELL.

IF YOU GO TO HILLSBOROUGHCOUNTY.ORG/LEGDEL, HAS ALL THE MEETING INFORMATION AND A WAY, IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME SPEAK, YOU CAN JUST DO AN ONLINE FORM AND HIT "SUBMIT."

IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE HCC DALE MABRY CAMPUS AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING.

I CAN SEND OUT ALL THE INFO TO YOU.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: WHEN IS THEIR RETREAT, THE COMMISSIONERS' RETREAT?

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: BARBARA AND I ARE GOING TO STOP BY, MAKE SURE THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE AGENDA.

> IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: I KNOW.

I WASN'T JOKING.

>SPENCER KASS: IT WILL BE UP IN TALLAHASSEE NOW.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: LET ME TEXT EVERYBODY.

LET'S CHANGE THAT DATE.

[LAUGHTER]

>KAY DOUGHTY: GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: OF COURSE IT IS.

OF COURSE.

AND IT'S RECORDED, SO EVEN IF WE DON'T GO-- OF COURSE, THEY WILL BE SO HAPPY TO SEE US.

>KIMBER WILLIAMS: I THINK SO.

BRING A LITTLE ENERGY.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: SO BUDGET SEEMS TO BE THE BIG TOPIC.

BRING IN THE CONSTITUTIONALS, THE LIBRARY, HEALTHCARE PLAN, NONPROFITS, LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.

I THINK WE'LL BE BUSY.

> ONE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD SOMEONE FROM THE PORT COME?

I KNOW WE HAD--

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS.

> I KNOW WE HAD THE ONE PORT PERSON THAT TALKED-- LIKE DID THE SHIPS, THE--

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: THE PILOT.

> I DON'T KNOW, WITH ALL THE CHANGES GOING ON DOWN THERE, WHAT-- I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE REALLY COULD SPEAK TO IT BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL PRIVATE.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: PORT, AND ALSO THE AIRPORT AND ITS EXPANSION.

> THAT WAS PRETTY BIG, YEAH.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: YEAH.

>CRISTAN FADAL: MAYBE THAT'S LATER IN THE YEAR OR SOMETHING.

> THE LED LIGHTING AS WELL.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I FORGOT THE LED.

MA'AM?

>BETH PYTLIK: BOARD RETREAT IS ON DECEMBER 5.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: DECEMBER 5.

WHERE?

>SPENCER KASS: DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS?

> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>KAY DOUGHTY: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE OUGHT TO CONSIDER AT SOME POINT IS HEARING FROM THE CHILDREN'S BOARD, SINCE THE REFERENDUM IS GOING TO COME UP FOR REAUTHORIZATION OF THE SALES TAX THAT SUPPORTS THE CHILDREN'S BOARD.

AND WE REALLY OUGHT TO HEAR FROM KELLY PARIS, WHO IS THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, OF WHAT HER VISION IS AND WHERE THE BOARD IS GOING ON THAT.

BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE REAUTHORIZED, AND IF IT'S NOT, THEY DISAPPEAR AND ALL THE PROJECTS THEY FUND DISAPPEAR.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: WHAT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING IS IF THERE IS A TRANSPORTATION-- DARE I SAY THAT WORD-- TAX, WILL COME UP AT THE SAME TIME AS THE CHILDREN'S BOARD TAX.

>KAY DOUGHTY: YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAD TO LAUGH AT THIS MORNING'S PAPER-- SPEAKING OF THE TAX-- THAT HAD-- THAT A POLL INDICATES THAT IT WAS THE SALES TAX THAT DEFEATED GREEN LIGHT PINELLAS.

I AM LIKE OH, REALLY?

BECAUSE THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE REFERENDUM.

[LAUGHTER]

DIDN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS.

MAYBE OFF THE RECORD INSTEAD.

I KNOW.

OKAY.

CHILDREN'S BOARD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON THE PLATE, BETH.

YOU AND I WILL PUT TOGETHER A SCHEDULE.

WE'LL HEAR FROM MR. MERRILL AND WHAT HE MIGHT HAVE TO SAY.

AND WE'RE SET TO GO.

EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE DATES?

NO CHANGES?

KEEP THE TOUR IN OCTOBER?

>KAY DOUGHTY: I THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK WELL IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE.

I MEAN, THIS ONE WASN'T OUTSIDE, BUT--

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: AFTER THAT-- I THINK THE PORT ONE, WHICH WAS FREEZING.

EGMONT KEY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS WHILE WE WAIT FOR OUR 9:00 SPEAKER?

HE IS HERE; ISN'T HE?

>SPENCER KASS: IF WE ARE JUST GOING TO DISCUSS THINGS IN GENERAL, JUST SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THE COUNTY DID PASS AN UNDERGROUNDING ORDINANCE FOR UNDERGROUNDING THE UTILITIES, SO THAT DID PASS THE COUNTY COMMISSION.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: WOW.

WHEN?

>SPENCER KASS: 30 DAYS AGO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD KNOW OR ANY GROUP OR AREA THAT'S INTERESTED IN-- THAT'S IN THE COUNTY, NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

BUT IF YOU LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTY AND YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THAT, YOU SHOULD CONTACT THE COUNTY, AND THEY CAN START HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU ABOUT HOW IT WORKS AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

AND IT'S QUITE A COMPLEX PROCESS.

>BARBARA ADERHOLD: IS IT LIKE SPEED HUMPS?