MEETING OBJECTIVES & PURPOSE:
· Main objective of this meeting is to review and coordinate current road maintenance activities, review current harvest plans, update users on road upgrades and to review/discuss and communicate potential road related safety concerns.
· To address maintenance issues for the Prince George area roads that are used by multiple users with contractor representatives, independent trucking representatives, maintenance contractors and Company Road Maintenance Supervisors.
· Planning of seasonal road maintenance requirements on shared roads.
· Regular review of maintenance standards and whether standards are being met.
· Compile and review road incidents, hazards and safety concerns.
· Ensure information regarding road maintenance is being communicated to the right people.
· Develop actions and make recommendations to address/correct road maintenance issues and communicate these actions to all users.
IN ATTENDANCE
Name / Company / Telephone / e-mailBeauchesne, R / Dunkley Lumber / 250-564-4508 /
Einfeldt, Flemming (FE) / IFS / 250-564-4115 /
Nevison, Tim / Lakeland Mills/Winton Global / 250-564-6810 /
Normandeau, Ray (RN) / Canfor / 250-962-3307 /
Rud, Larry / Rud Enterprises / 250-613-7646 /
Stauble, A. / Lakeland Mills/Winton Global / 250-614-4360 /
Zsombor, Gary / MOFR-BCTS / 250-614-7533 /
Date, Time and Location
Date / Time / LocationWednesday October 6, 2010 / 6:00 pm-7:30 pm / Lakeland’s Office
Minutes:
September 7, 2010 Minutes were adopted as circulated with a correction on Page 5-notes-should read “…..maintenance on the Winton Global Sections…..”.
REVIEW OF ACTION ITEMS:
OLD ACTIONS:
- Sept. 2010 Done: New signs were put up once again at 533 on the Boot and 129
on the Carrier.
- Aug. 15, 2010 Done: With the side road being finished and a yield sign put up there is no
longer a problem at the 254 junction on the 200 road.
- Jan. 2010 Pending: Normandeau has sent an email to Walter Dagenais MOFR engineering,
in Fort St. James requesting that they change their signs to odd
instead of even in order to match the PG District signs on the
Boot 500 going to 129 km on the Carrier. No reply has been
received as yet.
NEW ACTIONS:
1. Sept. 8, 2010 Done: Rud installed the frequency sign at 316 ½ km and 307 km, and brushed
out the sign at 310 ½ km.
2. Sept. 2010 Pending: The suggestion of putting speed limits in the calling procedures will
be referred to the PGFRMG. There will not be any changes until the
annual review of procedures in the spring.
3. Sept. 8, 2010 Done: The truck hauling without a VIN plate was a Wansa truck and the
Issue has been dealt with.
Safety Concerns:
Lakeland Mills/Winton Global – Stauble
Stauble passed on an email from Marsolais concerning a sign change at the Muskeg/600 Road junction.
This was an unauthorized change.
Action: Rud will put a stop sign on the Muskeg and Stauble will respond to Marsolais letting
them know what is being done.
Stauble reported a Lobar truck going off the road on the 600 Road at 642 km. The driver was not hurt but the truck was towed to town. There is a bit of a corner but it is not a problem. The cause has not yet been identified. Canfor will do an incident investigation.
Canfor – Normandeau
The hazard alert regarding traffic speeding around graders was discussed.
The issue can be resolved without signs by making sure there is radio communication regarding the grader location and slowing down to 30 km/hr. max and being prepared to stop. The grader operators should not be taking any direct action but should report problems to the road marshall.
Normandeau explained the decision to rescind the hazard alert re: the bridge at 212 km on the Polar 200.
The concrete deck at 211 crossing the Crooked will now be done in April 2011 at the same time as the 212 ½ bridge. This will avoid operations holdups. Rud will fix the 211 with installation of new running strips for the winter.
Rud Enterprises – Rud
No concerns noted.
Dunkley – Beauchesne
Beauchesne noted that some hunters currently on Forest Roads are calling incorrectly. Most are good and respond to correction but the odd one is belligerent as happened last Friday. Truckers should be aware that there are a lot of hunters currently and some are not following the rules.
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE
Company / Location / Activity / Timing / Volume / Contractor /MOFR /
A73577 / Eaglet Lake / Not Active / Unknown / 11552 / G & C Contracting /
A82458 / Hoodoo / Not Active / Unknown / 34462 / Loris Bedetti /
A82459 / West Hoodoo FSR / Not Active / Winter 2010/2011 / 94202 / Eko Logging Ltd. /
A82471 / Kay Kay / Active / Current Hauling / 21232 / Duane Norman /
A82476 / Hoodoo / Not Active / Unknown / 19092 / Loris Bedetti /
A82478 / Kay Kay / Active / 29069 / Dig Deep Ventures /
A82479 / Kay Kay / Active / Log Winter 2010/2011 / 37380 / Duane Norman /
A83240 / Teardrop / Active / To mid November / 39000 / 367079 BC Ltd. /
A83246 / Tacheeda Lake / Not Active / Unknown / 11668 / Jose Rodriguez /
A84123 / Kay Kay / Not Active / Unknown / 23800 / All-Wood Fibre /
A84128 / Hoodoo / Active / To Oct. 29, 2010 / 28440 / Richard Lee Clauson /
A84362 / McLeod Lake / Not Active / Unknown / 46187 / Loris Bedetti /
A84365 / Holman / Not Active / Unknown / 50161 / 0804878 BC Ltd. /
A84864 / McLeod Lake / Active / 22613 / Dig Deep Ventures /
A84866 / McLeod Lake / Not Active / Unknown / 20378 / Arnold Joseph Bremner /
A84867 / Parsnip River / Not Active / Unknown / 84740 / Wayne Graham Telford /
A85802 / Hooda Lake / Active / Current to Jan. / 125278 / Eko Logging Ltd. /
A85848 / Terry Creek / Not Active / Unknown / 15206 / Carrier Lumber Ltd. /
A85959 / Crystal Lake / Not Active / Unknown / 5775 / Jem Industries Inc. /
EJ3578, 569, 571 / Pelican 1400 / Active / 6500 / Edgewater Holdings /
FLTC A86795 / Teardrop Chief (200) / Active / Done / 4500 / Eko Logging /
A85932 / 800 Rd. TFL #53 / Active / N/A / N/A /
A82481 / Saxton, Kay Kay / Active / 38455 / Dakus & Co. /
A85524 / Mackenzie Lookout / Active / 75232 / Coyote /
A84122 / Saxton, Kay Kay / Active / 28930 / Dakus & Co. /
Notes: / A number of sales have been sold but are not active yet. BCTS have no knowledge of when logging will occur. ie. 2 @ Kay Kay, 1 @ Hoodoo, 1 @ McLeod Lake, 1 @ Hooda. /
Carrier Lumber / Willow Cale FSR 142 to 145 km / Active / Current / 50000 m3 /
/ 3000 Road on Grizzly @ 140 km / Not active yet / All Winter 2010/2011 /
/ TSL / Dunkley Area /
Notes: /
Canfor / Mt Mackenzie\ Woodpecker using the Clear Lake road system / Hauling / To end of November / 21,000m3
20 loads/day / Lobar /
Grading / Grader Pelican/Chilako part time grader Mount Mackenzie / Terry’s Grading /
Chilako to the Pelican / Hauling / To end of November / 22 loads/day / Coyote & Wiens # Company /
252 km Lakeland 200 / Hauling / From early Oct. to early November / 44 loads/day / LTN /
Salmon 600 Rd., @ 635 km / Grading / Grader for Doc’s, 300, Salmon / n/a / Lobol /
Hauling / To end of November 2010 / 17 loads/day & 2 loads/day of pulp logs / Lobar /
Docs 300RD / Grading / 1 grader for Doc’s, 300, Salmon / n/a / Lobol /
Lakeland 200RD @ 252km / Hauling / Current / ? / LTN /
Polar 200 RD
-Move to War Lake out at McLeod Lake for 1 week / Hauling / Current to end of
November / 45 loads/day / Clusko /
Grading / Current to end of
November 2010 / 2 graders / Stones Bay /
Off the Polar 200RD via 400RD / Hauling / Current to end of November 2010 / 34 loads/day / Stones Bay /
Off the 400RD to the Polar 200RD @ 250km / Hauling
Processing
Hauling / Current to end of November 2010 / 9 loads/day off highway / Taba Enterprises /
Moving to Weedon / Hauling
Cutting / Current / 12 loads/day / King Pine (Warmac) /
Chuchinka 6900RD to Polar / Hauling / Current to end November 2010 / 18 loads/day / Warmac /
Notes: / -Cougar Crane has 1 grader on the Willow-Cale
-Terry’s grading has 1 grader on the Pelican-Chilako and part time on the Mount Mackenzie
-Stones Bay has 2 graders on the 200/300 system and 1 grader on the Teardrop
-Lobol has 1 grader on the Doc’s/300 and Salmon
-RUD is doing spot maintenance in all areas but the Pelican.
-brushing 6900 Road starting next week (Oct. 10)
-it is doubtful the Polar/Weedon/300 will get brushed
-brusher working at Caine Creek to 21 km
-1 brusher on the Willow-Cale towards the highway
-brushed from 470 to 482 km and 9200 Road to War Lake /
Notes: / -BCTS would like to be contacted when hauling is completed from Mt Mackenzie. /
Dunkley Lumber Ltd. / 1600 Rd onto
200 Rd at 33 km / Hauling
Logging / To mid October / 35 loads/day / Pineview
Stony Lake /
Notes: / -Dunkley is doing the maintenance on the Winton Global sections (100, 5900, 1600, 1900 and 5200 road). They will keep track of maintenance costs for potential cost sharing through the RUC. /
Lakeland Mills Ltd. /
CP/Blk / Location / Delivery Schedule / Volume m3 / Contractor /
/ Double D /
149-557 / 200 & 400 Rd Systems (408 Km ) / Sept.20-Oct.1 / 13,000 /
116-417 / 200, 600, And 900 Rd Systems (946 Km) / Oct.1-Nov.1 / 28,000 /
152-580 / 200 & 600 Rd Systems (657 Km) / Sept 13-Oct 1 / 10,000 /
152-581 / 200 & 600 Rd Systems (658 Km) / Oct 1-Oct 30 / 8,000 /
PRELIMINARY WINTER 2010/201 OPERATIONS:
BCTS
Activity will depend on what sells, and BCTS does have sales upcoming. One sale is being developed at the end of the Caine.
Carrier Lumber
Activity on 300 Road on Grizzly at 142 km all winter. Activity in Dunkley area.
Canfor
Polar 200 off Weedon 300 on the 243 km
· 2 contractors to Polar
· 1 contractor to Prince George
Supply Block C
· 2 contractors on the Lakeland 200 at 250km
· 1 contractor until late January onto Lakeland 200 at 254 km
Stones Bay Grader to 2202 for winter
Chuchinka 700 up to 735, Angus Mac 6900 Road
· One contractor
· One grader and one sand truck are dedicated to this area. Canfor will be at 722 and Dunkley at 721 so Normandeau and Beauchesne will talk.
· A pit is needed for the Chuchinka Road as it is very steep. Normandeau will scout out gravel sources.
England Creek
· One contactor all winter
Pelican
· Shut down early to Mid December
· Clear Lake Mill will shut in January sometime
· Very little wood left in Nechako-Westlake
-any blocks will go to Isle Pierre or Quesnel
Caine at 21 km
· LTN has 18,000 m3 on the road
· Brushing going on now with grading to follow
Government Creek Area
· Active until mid November
Lakeland 200 to 254 km
· This will be left to snow in when completed
· Lakeland may be going up to 228 km
-Gary Pearson will grade up to 240 km to mid January
-Stones Bay grades from 240 km and up
Muskeg
· Will be maintained all winter
Salmon
· Will be maintained all winter
· Rud’s sand truck will look after Docs and West Creek and then the Salmon and Caine.
600 Road
· Rud will sand tracks and junctions
Pits at 228 and 211 will be looked at again.
Lakeland
Operations will be mainly on the:
600 Road
900 Road
Polar 200 from 244 km
-Cable operator 60,000 m3
-Will use 100 Road at 143 km and at 217 km and the 5900 Road
May use 11 ½ Pit in conjunction with Canfor. Stauble and Normandeau will work
out at arrangement as to who has the loader. Pineview has a grader and sand truck.
Dunkley
Operations will be:
Polar 200 road back end 88,000 m3 35 loads/day
5900 Road at 31 km 105,000 m3 up to 40 loads/day
300 Road at 46 km 60,000 m3
100 Road at 113 km 95,000 m3
Canfor also has operations on the Polar 200
Clusko 32 loads/day
Stones Creek 38 loads/day
Warmac 18 loads/day
There are also other operators at the back who may have 30 to 35 loads/day.
There could be up to 200 loads per day on the Polar. Nevison noted that the road has handled
that level of traffic in the past. Beauchesne suggested this be documented.
700 Road
· 20,000 m3 at 21.7 km
· 50,000 m3 at 20 km
Caine
· 13,000 m3 off at 21 km
Bowron (300)
· 1200 m3
Government (3200 road) down to 3800 Road
· There is a beaver issue here
Action: All members will provide the detailed forecast scheduler to Einfeldt by Friday October 15, 2010.
Einfeldt will collate the material on the scheduler to identify heavy traffic areas.
Action: A Prince George Road Users Committee meeting will be held on Friday, October 22, 2010
at 8:00 am. This will deal with reconciliation date for the summer 2010 period, reviewing
the traffic scheduler, and discussing the finances.
Next Meeting
Date / Facilitator / LocationDecember 1, 2010 @ 6 PM / Ray Normandeau / Lakeland Mills
OLD ACtions
Actions Due Date / Action / Responsibility / Action Status /Sept.8, 2010 / Put up the frequency sign at 316 ½ km and also the 307 sign. Brush out the sign at 310 ½ km. / Rud / Done /
Sept. 2010 / Refer the suggestion of putting speed limits in the Calling Procedures to the PGFRMG for the annual spring review of procedures. / Einfeldt / Pending /
Sept. 8, 2010 / Follow up on Ahbau truck hauling with no VIN plate. / Beuchesne / Done /
Sept. 2010 / New signs will be put up once again at 533 on the Boot and 129 on the Garner once it becomes clear what the MOFR is doing regarding the signage. / Normandeau / Done /
August 6 / Contact the Hanefeld’s to update them and make the suggestion that the residents contact Pat Bell. The Hanefeld’s did contact Pat Bells office. / Einfeldt / Done /
August 6 / Follow up on report of Pineview truck with no VIN plate / Beauchesne / Done /
August 15 / Look at Teardrop 200 at 254 junction to see if radio communication can be improved. Normandeau will wait until the road is finished before any new signage or frequency changes are made. / Normandeau / Done /
August 15 / Post speed limit signs on the Polar 200. / Normandeau / Done /
August 15 / Post “Must Call” signs at 208 and on the loaded side of the 211 bridge. / Normandeau / Done /
July 2010 / Signs at 533 on the Boot and 129 on the Carrier have been installed but have been torn down by the natives. / Normandeau / Done /
July 16, 2010 / Send a note to Eko and Dakus reinforcing the need for caution on the Saxton Road. / Einfeldt / Done /
July 19, 2010 / Talk to Saxton Road residents to find out if they would be willing to provide the land necessary to allow the MoTH to widen the road and send an email with results to Normandeau / Hannefeld / Done /
July 23, 2010 / Send a letter to MoTH, Rick Blixrud and Ron Marshall, outlining the safety issue and resident land provision for road widening / Normandeau / Done /
July 2010 / Look at condition of the 3 km bridge on the 100 Road (Davie FSR) crossing the Crooked River to determine what problems exist / Stauble / Done /
New ACtions