VIRGINIA: AT A JOINT WORKSESSION BETWEEN THE BRUNSWICK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE BRUNSWICK COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD HELD ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2006 AT 5:30PM

PRESENT: MARC L. FINNEY, CHAIRMAN; BARBARA JARRETT DRUMMOND, VICE-CHAIRMAN, ROBERT H. CONNER, BERNARD L. JONES, SR., WELTON TYLER, MEMBERS; TAMMY W. NEWCOMB, CMC, INTERIM CLERK;

FANNIE McCLENNEY, CHAIR; JAMES M. JONES, VICE-CHAIRMAN; GREGORY HAND, BARBARA LASSITER, FREDDIE REEKES, JOHN D. ROBINSON; DALE W. BAIRD, SUPERINTENDENT; H.B. BROCKWELL, DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS OPERATIONS

ALSO PRESENT: SPENCER H. ELMORE, FINANCIAL CONSULTANT; MARILYN H. BRAMMER, FINANCE DIRECTOR; ALICE C. MAITLAND, TREASURER

Chairman Finney called the Board of Supervisors to order at 5:40 p.m. and welcomed

all in attendance.

Chairman McClenney called the School Board to order and welcomed all in attendance.

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Re: Office Space Project

Superintendent Baird provided a brief background regarding the office space issue for

the School Board Administration.

Mr. Baird stated the discussion regarding office space needs and requirements

began approximately eight (8) years ago. He stated there were approximately thirty

(30) employees housed in the Learning Center (old primary school building on park

street). He stated the building did not have adequate space to accommodate the

department=s growing needs and there were no funds available to spend on the

building. Mr. Baird added that a hurricane severely damaged the roof. He stated

that Phase II of the Tech Center was currently under construction and class room

space was made available to accommodate the employees from the old primary school

temporarily. He added that the School Board hired a consultant to prepare a feasibility

study on the construction of a new administration building. Mr. Baird stated that the

Industrial Development Authority wanted the School Board offices to remain in the

town limits. He added that a study was conducted on use of the old Star Value

building and the old Walker Drug building and it was determined that there was not

enough space for all employees.

Mr. Baird indicated that soon after that study, it was announced that the Peebles

building was planning to close its doors.

Mr. Baird stated that the County offered the Peebles building, as the 10% local match,

toward the upcoming Qualified Zone Academy Bond (QZAB) funding available to the

County.

Mr. Baird stated the School Board moved forward, after authorization from the Board

of Supervisors, with design and cost estimates on renovations to the Peebles building

prepared by Dewberry, for a project at an estimate cost of $2M to $2.75M.

Mr. Baird reported that the Board of Supervisors, after hearing a presentation from

Davenport and company on projected debt service for the project, requested the

services of the County Financial Consultant.

Mr. Baird advised that he and his Staff met with Mr. Elmore to provide background

information on the project and it was suggested by Mr. Elmore to research completion

of the renovations to the Peebles building in Phases.

Mr. Baird stated it was determined that completion of a Phase I, which includes

renovation of the first level and basement, could be accommodated with the $90,000 in

the School Board=s budget. (In August 2004, the School Board designated and the

Board of Supervisors approved use of the $90,000 in additional state revenues for

debt service expenses for the new office building - start up planning and design costs)

Mr. Spencer Elmore, County Financial Consultant, stated that his objective is to foster

the need for a more centralized location for school personnel at the most cost effective

manner between the two boards.

Mr. Elmore stated that he did meet with Dale Baird and his Staff to get a full

understanding of the proposed project. Mr. Elmore stated he did review the

information as prepared and presented by Davenport & Company and could not

critique or justify the numbers contained in the report. Mr. Elmore added that he

could agree that the numbers presented in the report represent reasonable and

conservative projections on growth.

Mr. Elmore stated that when Davenport and Company added the Peebles renovation

project in the presentation, the results are a 12.7 cents increase in the tax rate over a

five year period.

Mr. Elmore reminded the two boards and the audience that back in the 1980's the

county was in the worst financial shape of any locality in the State of Virginia due to

the Board making assumptions on grant funding that did not come in.

He further added that this current Board inherited a FY04 county budget that was

out of balance in the amount of $385,875. He stated the incoming Board had to

enact a 10 cent tax increase to balance the budget and accommodate some school

projects (6 cents covered deficit; 2 cents covered debt service on Phase III; and 2 cents

went to general operations).

Mr. Elmore stated that the FY06 County budget was at a deficit of $387,026. He stated

that the Board should practice prudent fiscal management and a budget should be

used as a guideline for the upcoming year. He added that any requests for additional

funding should be postponed until the next fiscal year unless it is an emergency.

Mr. Elmore stated that he has not made any public comments about school financing

over the past 10 years.

Mr. Elmore stated that upon review of the FY05 County Audit, it was determined that

additional revenue above the 65% came in at $168,438. Mr. Elmore further stated

that the FY05 County Audit also revealed that school transfers exceeded authorization

in the amount of $246,037. He stated that this still leaves a deficit in the amount of

$77,599. He added that the Board of Supervisors should cut the School=s current

year local appropriation in the amount of $77,599.

Mr. Elmore stressed prudent financial management and that there needs to be

accountability.

Mr. Elmore stated that over the years the School Board has talked about consolidating

schools and construction of a new administration building. He stated that he toured

the Courthouse Square in search of possible space to accommodate school personnel.

He stated that since the School Board and Board of Supervisors have agreed to use

the Peebles building as the local match for QZAB funding, there may be some legal

entanglements now.

He stated the renovation of the Peebles building as originally proposed is an excessive

renovation project. He stated as the County=s Financial consultant he cannot support

any debt service on behalf of the Board of Supervisors for this project. He indicated

he had an alternative proposal for consideration by the Board of Supervisors.

Mr. Elmore stated in his search for available office space, he toured the old courthouse

building and was shocked at the condition of the building. He stated this building is a

historic landmark and something needs to be done to protect this building.

Mr. Elmore added he could not make any commitments on funding until the Board

of Supervisors works on the upcoming budget and deals with the deficit.

He challenged the Board to adopt a balance budget in FY07, without using fund

balance or landfill host fees. He further challenged the Board to adopt an FY07

general capital project budget (excluding federal fund projects and Peebles building

renovations) not to exceed $1M.

Mr. Elmore challenged the School Board to provide and demonstrate assurance that

there will be prudent financial management and accountability.

Mr. Elmore presented the following two (2) proposals for consideration:

School Administration Space

A. Peebles Building Renovation (first level/basement only) at a cost of $1.25M. This will leave approximately 16 people without housing. Must provide temporary housing somewhere.

B. Construction of new Administration building on school property. Construct a facility all brick or shell type building using existing county resources.

Old Courthouse

Utilize $1.25M to get old Courthouse building protected and refurbished for county administration offices and Board of Supervisors meeting room. Research possible grant funding for courthouse restoration or historic building preservation.

QZAB (FY2007)

$90,000 commitment from School Board could be used to cover this debt service.

Mr. Elmore stated that the Board of Supervisors may consider taking the $1.25M for

School Administration and $1.25M for the old courthouse from the general operating

fund balance and/or the general capital project fund balance for a one time capital

outlay for these two projects after review of the FY07 budget figures.

Mr. Elmore stated that he believes in the need to centrally locate school personnel and

in the protection of the County=s historic courthouse.

Mr. Elmore stated that these proposals can meet multiple objectives if completed.

The Board thanked Mr. Elmore for his presentation.

It was the consensus of the Board of Supervisors that it will discuss the proposal as

presented, review its FY07 budget information upon receipt, and agree how

to proceed with the projects.

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Additional Appropriations for FY06

Mr. Baird stated that he had forwarded to Mrs. Newcomb, Interim County Administrator,

a request for the Board=s February agenda for Additional Appropriations in grant

funding. This was provided for the Board=s information in case they had any questions.

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Budget Module - Bright System

Mr. Baird stated that discussion had been held several years back regarding the School

Board=s access to the Budget Module on the County=s Computer system (Bright

System). He inquired as to how the School Board could be granted access to this

system.

It was the consensus of the Board to direct the Interim County Administrator to research

this matter and report back to the Board.

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Joint Worksession - April 2006

Mr. Baird indicated that the next joint worksession was scheduled on April 11, 2006 and

would occur after the budget had been advertised. He indicated the Board of

Supervisors may want to have a joint meeting prior to advertisement of the School

Board budget.

It was the consensus of the Board to contact the Interim County Administrator regarding

available dates for a joint worksession.

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Re: Adjourn

Upon motion of Mr. Conner, seconded by Mr. Tyler, and unanimously carried, the

Board of Supervisors adjourned until 4:30 p.m. on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 for

a closed meeting.

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Marc L. Finney, Chairman Tammy W. Newcomb, CMC, Clerk