Jan 2013doc.: IEEE 11-13-0086-00-000ac

IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs

TGacAd Hoc Meeting minutes – 20130110
Date: 2013-01-10
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / email
David Xun Yang / Huawei Technologies / Huawei Industrial Base, Shenzhen, Guangdong518129, China / +86 15914117462 /

Abstract

This document contains the meeting minutes of the IEEE 802.11acad hoc meeting on 2013-01-10.

Ad Hoc meeting time: 2013-01-10, 9:00 PST

Attendees present:

  • Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei) – Chair
  • David Xun Yang (Huawei) –Secretary
  • Brian Hart (Cisco)
  • Jaesung Lee (ETRI)
  • Eldad Perahia (Intel)
  • Adrian Stephens (Intel)
  • Matthew Fischer (Broadcom)
  • Eric Wong (Broadcom)
  • Vinko Erceg (Broadcom)
  • Hongyuan Zhang (Marvell)
  • Youhan Kim (Qualcomm)
  • Menzo Wentik (Qualcomm)
  • Chunhui Zhu (Samsung)
  • Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
  • Siguard (Quantenna)
  • Yusuke Asai (NTT)
  • George Vlantis (ST)
  • Liwen Chu (ST)
  • Mark Rison (Samsung)
  • Betty Zhao (Huawei)
  • Raja Banerjea(CSR)

Agenda:

  • Review of IEEE 802 & 802.11 Polices and Procedures.
  • Overview of comment resolutions
  • Comments Resolution
  • 12/1448r1 D4 Comment Resolution, brianh, part3 (Brian Hart, Cisco)
  • 13/0056r1 VHTLTF Equation (Hongyuan Zhang, Marvell)
  • 13/0054r0 Proposed Resolution on CID 7103 (Youhan Kim, Qualcomm)
  • 12/1438r2 Miscellaneous PHY comment resolution for LB190 (Yusuke Asai, NTT)
  • 13/0058r2 Proposed Resolution on CID 7103 (Chao-chun Wang, MediaTek)
  • 12/1405r1 LB190 MAC Comments (Menzo Wentink, Qualcomm)
  • 13/0058r2 Proposed Resolution on CID 7103 (Chao-chun Wang, MediaTek)
  • 12/1405r2 LB190 MAC Comments (Menzo Wentink, Qualcomm)
  • 12/1408r0 Once Upon A Comment Response (Matthew Ficsher, Broadcom)

The chairman starts the meeting at 9:09 am.

The chairman introduces the IEEE patent policy and asks for patent request.No response noted.

The chairman thanks Eldad Perahia (Intel), Adrian Stephens (Intel) and Minyoung Park (Intel) for hosting the meeting.

The chairman asks for updating the general flow and agenda. No objection to today’s schedule.

The chairman calls for updating the submission list.

The chairman reviews the status of unresolved comments.

Presentation #1: 12/1448r1 D4 Comment Resolution, brianh, part3(Brian Hart, Cisco)

Brian presented

7150,

No comment

7165(O),

Adrian: So far it is not allowed to change the secondary channel. It is because of the OBSS issue.

Youhan Kim (Qualcomm): This paragraph is only for IBSS.

Mark Rison (Samsung) suggests deffering this comment.

7156, 7153, 7152, 7149, 7151, 7100, 7131, 7395, 7318, 7315

No comment

No objection noted to the comment resolutions to CIDs7150,7156, 7153, 7152, 7149, 7151, 7100, 7131, 7395, 7318 and 7315 as in doc 12/1448r1.

The resolution to CID 7165 is deferred.

Presentation #2: 13/0056r1VHTLTF Equation (Hongyuan Zhang, Marvell)

Hongyuan presented

Strawpoll: Is there any objection to accepte the change to equation 22-42 in 13/0056r1?

No objection noted.

Presentation #3: 13/0054r0 Proposed Resolution on CID 7103 (Youhan Kim, Qualcomm)

Youhan Presented

7103

No objection noted to the comment resolution to CID 7103 as in doc 13/0054r0.

Presentation #4: 12/1438r2 Miscellaneous PHY comment resolution for LB190 (Yusuke Asai, NTT)

Yusuke presented

7226,

No objection noted to the comment resolution to CID 7226 as in doc 12/1438r3.

Presentation #5: 13/0058r2LB190 MAC comments resolution (Chao-chun Wang, MediaTek)

Chao-chun presented

7203, 7202, 7201, 7247, 7248,

7249,

People prefer to reject the comment.

7228, 7246, 7384, 7204

The resolutions to CIDs 7203, 7202, 7201, 7246 and 7384 are deferred.

Presentation #6: 12/1405r1 LB190 MAC Comments (Menzo Wentink, Qualcomm)

Menzo presented

7138, 7139, 7004, 7018, 7019, 7099, 7087, 7341,

No comment

7343, 7211,

Strawpoll: Do you agree with the proposed resolution to CIDs 7343 and 7211as in doc 12/1405r1?

Y: 15, N: 1, Abs: 0. Strawpoll passes.

7327,

Strawpoll: Do you agree with the proposed resolution to CID 7327 as in doc 12/1405r1?

Y: 15, N: 1, Abs: 0. Strawpoll passes.

7330,

Adrian: The details are implementation issues.

7399

Strawpoll: Do you agree with the proposed resolution to CID 7399 as in doc 12/1405r1?

Y: 12, N: 0, Abs: 3. Strawpoll passes.

7307,

No comment

7231,

Strawpoll: Do you agree with the proposed resolution to CID 7231 as in doc 12/1405r1?

Y: 12, N: 0, Abs: 2. Strawpoll passes.

7221, 7238, 7306,

No objection noted to the comment resolutions to CIDs 7138, 7139, 7018, 7019, 7099, 7087, 7341, 7343, 7211, 7327,7330,7399, 7307, 7231, 7221, 7238 and 7306 as in doc 12/1405r2.

The resolution to CID 7004 is deferred.

Presentation #7: 13/0058r2 Proposed Resolution on CID 7103 (Chao-chun Wang, MediaTek)

Chao-chun presented

7203(O), 7202(O), 7201(O),

Youhan: When a channel is busy, why do we separate whether it is HT or VHT?

Adrian: Right. We should simplify.

7246, 7384

Strawpoll:

In favor of keeping original name: 5

In favor of the new name: 2

There are 6 people supporting to change the name.

Brian proposes the name “spatial capability” or “STS capability”.

Youhan proposes add “beamformee” before “STS capability”.

No objection noted.

No objection noted to the comment resolutions to CID 7264 and 7384 as in doc 13/0058r2.

The resolutions to CIDs 7203, 7202 and 7201 are deferred.

Presentation #8: 12/1405r2 LB190 MAC Comments (Menzo Wentink, Qualcomm)

Menzo presented

7004

No objection noted to the resolution to CID 7004 as in doc 12/1405r2.

Presentation #9: 13/0048r0Once Upon A Comment Response (Matthew Ficsher, Broadcom)

Matt presented

7180, 7168, 7167, 26, 7324, 7331,

No comment

7397, 7398,

Strawpoll: Do you support to use “shall” to replace “should”?

Y: 2, N: 9

No objection noted to the comment resolutions to CIDs 7180, 7168, 7167, 26, 7324 and 7331 as in doc 13/0048r1

The remaining comments, including CIDs 7397 and 7398, are still open.

The meeting was recessed at 5:02 pm.

Submissionpage 1David Xun Yang (Huawei)