LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS YOUR TWO-MINUTE WARNING. WE WILL BEGIN THE COUNCIL MEETING, NORMAL COUNCIL MEETING, IN APPROXIMATELY TWO MINUTES. SO PLEASE TURN YOUR CELLPHONES TO QUIET.
GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS. TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 26th. WE NEED A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
MR. DANIELS. HE'S HERE. MISS DENYS. NIS NORTH THINK. MR. PATTERSON. MR. WAGNER. MISCUE SACK. MR. DAVIS.
ALL PRESENT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. TODAY'S INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY DEE MUELLER, PASTOR OF THE LIGHTHOUSE CHURCH OF DeLAND. GOOD MORNING. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE RISE.
OUR HEAVENLY FATHER WE THANK YOU FOR THIS BRAND-NEW DAY. FATHER GOD, AS WE PAUSE WE INVOKE YOUR BLESSING ON WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN THIS CHAMBER TODAY. I THANK YOU FOR EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL, GOD, AND WE COUNT IT AN HONOR TO PRAY FOR THEM, THAT, GOD, THEY WOULD SEEK YOU FOR WISE COUNSEL, THAT THERE WILL BE PEACEFUL DELIBERATIONS, THAT GOD THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY PRESENT THE DIFFERENT TOPICSEN THE AGENDA, THAT, GOD, YOU WOULD DIRECT THEM. WE THANK YOU HOLY SPIRIT THAT YOU ARE THE TRUE COUNSELOR AND MAY YOU SHOW THEM YOUR WILL FOR THIS COUNTY. FATHER GOD, I KNOW THEY HAVE AN IMPORTANT MEETING ALSO TONIGHT AND I JUST PRAY FOR YOUR PEACE IN THIS CHAMBER. I PRAY THAT YOU WILL GUIDE THEM AND GIVE THEM COURAGE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS. AND GOD WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR RICH BLESSING, YOUR LOVE AND YOUR MERCY. IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. AMEN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT.
ALL RIGHT. WE ENCOURAGE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THROUGH ALL ISSUES ON THE AGENDA, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SLIP AND INDICATE THE LINE, THE ISSUE YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON. YOU MAY USE THE BACK IF YOU HAVE TO. AFTERUREK NOISED STATE YOUR NAME AND DRESS FOR THE RECORD. BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR COMMENTS YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THE COUNTY COUNCIL DOES NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS DURING THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY NEED ANSWERED WILL BE FOLLOWED UP ON WITH USING THE INFORMATION ON THAT YELLOW SLIP. SO PLEASE BE COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL OF THE VIEWS OF OTHERS. PERSONAL ATTACKS ON COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNTY STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE NOT TOLERATED.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE READ THAT MESSAGE. SO THIS TIME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE A CELLPHONE, DOUBLE CHECK IT. MAKE SURE IT'S DOWN TO VIBRATE, OFF. WE DON'T NEED ANY "STAR TREK" WHISTLES GOING OFF AS THE MEETING GOES FORWARD. IT KIND OF INTERRUPTS THE FLOW.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE HERE TO POLL SOME AGENDA ITEMS. BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE POLLED BY STAFF. ITEMS NUMBER 11, 27, AND 29 FOR DISCUSSION. ITEM 34 HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT IS A REVENUE, NOT AN EXPENDITURE. THERE WAS A MISTYPING. AND YES, MR. ECKERT, APPROXIMATE 4A, SIR. 34A. IT DOES SAY 34A. I READ TOO QUICKLY. NUMBERS POLLED ARE 11, 27, 29.
OKAY. MR. DANIELS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO POLL FROM CONSENT AGENDA?
I DO NOT.
MISS DENYS?
YES, MR. CHAIR. SINCE 29 IS ALREADY POLLED, I WAS GOING TO PULL THAT. I ALSO WANT TO PULL 17, PLEASE.
ITEM 17.
MISS NORTHEY.
I HAVE THREE. ITEM 9, ITEM 15, ITEM 17.
OKAY. DOUBLE 17. MR. PATTERSON? MR. WAGNER.
NONE.
ITEM 23. OKAY. ITEM 23. I'LL GO OVER THIS LIST AGAIN. AND AND MISS CUSACK? COULD SOMEBODY IF SHE SHOULD WOULD LIKE TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM BEFORE WE GO FORWARD? THANK YOU. OKAY. SHE PULLS NONE AND THERE ARE NONE FOR ME.
THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS IN ORDER, IF I CAN DO THIS CORRECTLY, HERE IS 9, 11, 15, 17, 23, 27, AND 29 FOR THE RECORD.
SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. I FORGOT WE ADDED ITEM 34A. I WANT TO PULL THAT ONE, TOO.
OKAY. 34A. AND 34A. OKAY.
OKAY. WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM MR. PATTERSON.
SECOND.
SECOND FROM MISS DENYS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SO PASSED.
ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE MINUTES FROM JULY 25th -- LET ME TRY THAT WITH ENGLISH. MINUTES FROM JULY 25, 2013. MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM MR. PATTERSON?
MR. CHAIRMAN, THEY ARE NOT ATTACHED. IF YOU OPEN THAT ATTACHMENT ONLINE, YOU CANNOT GET TO THEM.
THEY ARE NOT ATTACHED, MA'AM?
LET'S MOVE TO CONTINUE AND I WILL CHECK TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. WE CAN APPROVE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE. MR. WAGNER, MOTIONS TO CONTINUE. SECOND?
SECOND.
SECOND FROM MISS NORTHEY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. LET'S TRY THAT AGAIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
ITEM NUMBER 2, DID WE EVER GET -- MISS MARCY, DID WE EVER GET THE WEBSITE UPDATED WITH ALL THE PDF FILES? IS THAT FUNCTIONING YET?
VOLUSIA.ORG?
YEMEN.
IT'S UPDATED WITH ITEM 34A.
THE REVENUE HAS BEEN FIXED, YES.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO PROBLEM THAT WAS UNDERLYING THAT WAS CAUSING OTHER ISSUES TO BE -- LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MINUTES POSTED. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS UPDATED.
MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER 2. PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTED OUTSIDE THE COUNTY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. VOLUSIA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND POW/MI A-DAY. MOTION.
MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL.
ON THE PROBING LAMB MATION.
A SECOND?
SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM MISS DENYS. FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT.
LET'S SEE. 9:05. HEY, WE CAN DO THIS ONE. ORDER OF BUSINESS. FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER FLORIDA BROWN FIELD AREAS IN DELEON SPRINGS. WOW.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE AUDIO.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE AUDIO. JUST BE GENTLE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. RICK KARL.
MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNSEL, RICK KARL, DIRECTOR OF AVIATION SERVICES. I AM HERE WITH ROB EHRHARDT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. NO ACTION REQUIRED ON YOUR PART ON THE DeLAND SPRINGS BROWN FIELD AREA. BEFORE WE OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING, MR. CHAIR, THERE IS A GLITCH IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE. THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS -- IT WAS IN THE PACKET BUT DIDN'T GET PUBLISHED. MARCY, DID YOU HAND THAT OUT? THIS ONE PAGE?
NO. I'LL PASS IT OUT TO EVERYBODY. SURE.
IT'S THE ATTACHMENT, FOR THE RECORD, IS THE FLORIDA BROWN FIELD PROGRAM FROM THE FLORIDA STATE WEBSITE. IT'S JUST AN INFORMATIONAL PIECE. ALSO WITH US HERE TODAY IS MR. GEORGE HOUSTON, WHO IS THE CENTRAL FLORIDA DISTRICT OFFICE FOR THE BROWNFIELD.
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.MR. CHAIR.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS? MR. KARL, DON'T GO TOO FAR. I AM SURE THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL -- STAFF REPORT. MISS MARCY, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION? WE ARE JUST MAKING HER RUN LIKE CRAZY TODAY. WHILE WE HAVE A LULL HERE IN A MOMENT IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT MISS BERNADETTE IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 17. AND IT WAS A REQUEST MADE BY THE MANAGER TO POSSIBLY SLIP ITEM 17 UP A LITTLE BIT WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL BECAUSE FOR ITEM 17 IS THE ADVERTISING AUTHORITY'S BUDGET, WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE HOURS AND HOURS, THEY SAY. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE? AND I WOULD I GUESS WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A RAISING OF THE HANDS IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX. OKAY. VERY WELL. WE'LL GET YOU IN RIGHT AFTER THE BROWNFIELD.
ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION -- THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
MR. CHAIR?
YES?
JUST TO ADD TO WHAT MR. KARL'S PRESENTATION, THERE ARE FOUR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO REQUESTED TO BE DELETED FROM THE BROWNFIELD. THOSE FOUR PARCELS WILL BE EXCLUDED AND ANY OTHERS WHO MAY REQUEST EXCLUSION TODAY.
OKAY. SO READ TO THE RECORD. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S START OFF HERE WITH MR. KEN HUBLICK. PROBABLY ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE FROM DeLEON SPRINGS, AREN'T YOU? I WON'T HAVE TO CALL ROLL FOR YOU GUYS? THAT'S GOOD. WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THREE MINUTES, SIR.
OKAY. MY NAME IS KEN HOBLICK. I LIVE AT 5733 JOHNSON LAKE ROAD IN DeLAND SPRINGS. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FOR 45 YEARS. THE COUNTY COUNCIL THIS MORNING, WE NEED YOUR HELP. AS ALL OF YOU AS REPRESENTATIVES OF YOUR DIFFERENT AREAS WANT TO MAKE YOUR AREA ATTRACTIVE AND PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT YOUR RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES NEED, WE WANT THE SAME FOR DeLEON SPRINGS. YOU'VE HELPED US ALREADY IN EXPANDING THE ZONING THAT WE'VE REQUESTED A SHORT TIME AGO. BUT THAT'S ONLY STEP ONE. STEP TWO, WE NEED THEDOWNFIELD DESIGNATION IN OUR AREA IN ORDER TO GET THE FINANCIAL AID TO HELP CLEAN UP THE AREA THAT THROUGH NO FAULT OF THE PRESENT OWNERS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR. THUS MAKING IT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR FUTURE GROWTH. WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF SEVEN GAS STATIONS OR AREAS WHERE BURIED FUEL TANKS BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE -- OUT IT TO THE NORTH AND FAIR PORT AVENUE AND 17 WHERE THEY INTERSECT TO THE SOUTH. STEP THREE, WE NEED WATER AND SEWER, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF DeLAND. AND WHEN THESE ARE ALL COMPLETED, VOLUSIA COUNTY WILL HAVE SAVED THIS AREA FROM CONTINUING TO DETERIORATE TO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF. THIS AREA WAS ONCE A PRIME TOURIST AREA. THE SPRINGS BEING THE WINTER DESTINATION VIA THE RAILROAD FROM UP NORTH. WE HAD AT ONE TIME THREE HOTELS IN DAY-DAY LEONE SPRINGS -- DeLEON SPRINGS PLUS ONE AT THE SPRINGS ITSELF. WE WANT TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY REVIVED AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT NEED TO BE PROVIDED. ONLY WITH YOUR HELP CAN THIS COME TO FRUITION. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US ALL WORK TOGETHER TO GET THE JOB DONE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. LYNN LIT WINNIACK. I PROBABLY JUST BUTCHERED YOUR NAME AND I APOLOGIZE. WE TRY TO BREAK THINGS DOWN INTO SIMPLE, UNDERSTANDABLE SYLLABLES. SORELY ABOUT THAT. WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT 5750 BOX HOLLOW ROAD, DeLEON SPRINGS. I AM GOING TO TAKE THE OPPOSITE VIEWPOINT THAN MR. HOBLICK LICK. I AGREE WITH HIM ON EVERYTHING EXPECT WE DO NOT NEED A BROWNSFIELD DESIGNATION. YOU OWN THE HOTEL IN DeLEON SPRINGS. I KNOW THE TOWN. I DON'T THINK THERE IS CONSENSUS. I QUESTION THE PROCESS. WE WERE ALL SENT POSTCARDS FOR THE OPT IN OR OUT. WHEN I WAS REZONING OUR MOTEL I HAD TO SEND CERTIFIED LETTERS TO ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS. AND I FEEL THAT AT THE LEAST, AT THE LEAST WE NEED TO SEND CERTIFIED LETTERS TO ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT A BROWNS FIELD DESIGNATION DOES TO THEIR PROPERTY. IN MY KNOWLEDGE, YOU CAN'T SELL YOUR PROPERTY WITHOUT IT BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE. SO THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY GO TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY FIND OUT THEY CAN'T SELL IT, THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE WITH PITCH FORKS AND SHOVELS AND LAWYERS. THAT'S MY OPINION. I DON'T BELIEVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW WHAT A BROWNS FIELD DESIGNATION IS, AND I, MYSELF, DO NOT. I HAVE RESEARCHED IT. I AM NOT A LAWYER. BUT I THINK WE MIGHT AS WELL BE TALKING CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS OR DERIVATIVES BECAUSE I SURE DON'T GET IT. AND I BET YOU MOST OF YOU PEOPLE UP THERE DON'T GET IT. LET'S SEE. OUR MOTEL GENERATES ABOUT $5,000 A YEAR IN SALES TAX AND TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX, BUT WE ARE NOT A DAD AREA. 220,000 PEOPLE COME TO THE SPRINGS EVERY YEAR. $8 MILLION IS GENERATED FROM THAT, THOSE 2 IT $20,000 -- I'M SORRY, 220,000 PEOPLE, AND THAT $8 MILLION IS SPENT IN THE WHOLE DeLAND AREA. WE ARE NOT A DEAD AREA. I AGREE WITH MR. HOBLICK. WE NEED YOUR HELP. BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE NEED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. ROSE LADWINICK. I'M GETTING BETTER AT IT.
YES. I AM GLEN'S WIFE. MY NAME IS ROSE LATWINICK. I HAVE LIVED 22 YEARS IN DeLEON SPRINGS.
WE NEED YOUR ADDRESS.
5750 FOX HOLLOW ROAD, TA LEONE SPRINGS.
3 MINUTES.
WE TOOK THE SMALL MOTEL IN DELAY OWN SPRINGS. IT WAS BASICALLY A CRACK HOUSE. WE TURNED IT INTO A BEAUTIFUL MOTEL WHERE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND DIFFERENT COUNTRIES COME AND STAY. WE HAVE TAKEN OUR PROPERTY AND IT TOOK US A YEAR TO RENOVATE IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN POSSIBLY CONSIDER ME A BROWNSFIELD. HOW YOU COULD PUT ME IN A BROWNSFIELD DESIGNATION WHEN I AM WORKING UP THERE EVERY DAY. I AM BEATIFYING THE AREA. LYNN AND I, MY HUSBAND, WE WERE THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE DeLEON SPRINGS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. WE STARTED THE ASSOCIATION AFTER THE SECOND BROWNSFIELD MEDIA MEETING AT THE METHODIST CHURCH. WE WERE NICELY ASKED TO STEP DOWN, WHICH WE HE DID. AND WE DON'T -- WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BROWNSFIELD DESIGNATION. IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT WE, LIKE EVERYONE, I BELIEVE UP THERE, WE WANT THE BEST FOR DeLEON SPRINGS. I AM 100% FOR CLEANING UP THE CONTAMINATION UP THERE FOR OUR SPRINGS, WHICH IS VITAL TO ALL OF THIS WHOLE ENTIRE AREA. MY HUSBAND AND I ATTENDED THE SEPTEMBER COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION MEETING. THERE WERE THREE LANDOWNERS THERE THAT ARE BUSINESS OWNERS UP AND DOWN THE DeLEON SPRINGS STRIP, WHICH IS TO BE CONSIDERED A BROWNSFIELD. TWO OF THE THREE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WERE THERE WAS MY HUSBAND AND I. THERE ARE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF BUSINESSES IN THE AREA OF DeLEON SPRINGS THAT IS TO BE CONSIDERED A BROWNSFIELD THAT ARE PART OF THE ASSOCIATION. I FEEL LIKE THE ASSOCIATION IS MOVING FOR THIS AND IT'S REALLY NOT THE BUSINESS OWNERS UP THERE. I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT THE BUSINESS OWNERS CAN DESIGNATE THE AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE A BROWNSFIELD. I HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME TO MY MOTEL. THEY SHOWER. THEY USE MY WATER. MY MOTEL, MY AREA IS NOT CONTAMINATED. OUR WATER IS CHECKED EVERY THREE MONTHS. IT'S A CLEAN AREA. I DON'T AGREE THAT DeLEON SPRINGS IS AN AREA WHERE NOTHING IS HAPPENING. WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY GOT A DOLLAR GENERAL, BUT YET THE SMALL STRIP MALL ACROSS FROM OUR MOTEL ON 17 HAS SEVEN DIFFERENT STORES IN IT. IT HAS NEVER BEEN VACANT ONCE. THERE IS A RESTAURANT ACROSS FROM OUR MOTEL. IT IS -- IT DOES INCREDIBLE BUSINESS. IT'S CHANGED HANDS TWICE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE ARE -- I WANT THE BEST FOR DeLEON SPRINGS. AND IF A BROWNSFIELD IS THE BEST FOR IT, THEN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW. AND I'LL BE ALL FOR IT. THANK YOU.