BOARD MEETING STATE OF CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
JOE SERNA, JR. BUILDING
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY CENTRAL VALLEY AUDITORIUM, SECOND FLOOR
1001 I STREET
SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, MARCH 27, 2003 9:00 A.M.
JAMES F. PETERS, CSR, RPR
CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER
LICENSE NUMBER 10063
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BOARD MEMBERS
Dr. Alan Lloyd, Chairperson
Dr. William Burke
Mr. Joseph Calhoun
Ms. Dorene D'Adamo Supervisor Mark DeSaulnier Professor Hugh Friedman Dr. William Friedman
Mr. Matthew McKinnon
Mrs. Barbara Riordan Supervisor Ron Roberts
STAFF
Ms. Catherine Witherspoon, Executive Officer
Mr. Tom Cackette, Chief Deputy Executive Officer
Mr. Mike Scheible, Deputy Executive Officer
Ms. Lynn Terry, Deputy Executive Officer
Ms. Kathleen Walsh, General Counsel
Dr. Alberto Ayala, Manager, Alternative Strategies
Section, MSCD
Ms. Analisa Bevan, Manager, ZEV Implementation Section,
MSCD
Mr. Richard Bode, Chief, Health and Exposure Assessment
Branch, Research Division
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STAFF
Mr. Craig Childers
Mr. Bart Croes, P.E., Chief, Research Division
Mr. Bob Cross, Chief, MSCD
Ms. Krista Fregoso, Air Pollution Specialist, Planning and
Regulatory Development Section, MSCD
Mr. Tom Jennings, Senior Staff Counsel
Ms. Diane Johnston, Senior Staff Counsel Dr. Norman Kado, Air Pollution Specialist
Ms. Renee Kemena, Manager, Planning and Regulatory Development Section, MSCD
Mr. Jack Kitowski, Chief, On-Road Controls Branch, MSCD
Mr. Bob Nguyen, Air Resources Engineer, Alternative Strategies Section, MSCD
Mr. Chuck Shulock, Vehicle Program Specialist, MSCD
Dr. Barbara Weller, Manager, Population Studies Section,
Research Division
ALSO PRESENT
Mr. Tom Addison, Bay Area Air Quality Management District
Dr. Menahem Anderman, Consultant
Ms. Marilyn Bardet
Ms. Clare Bell, E-Vet
Mr. John Boesel, Calstart/Westart
Mr. Thomas Bradley, Self
Mr. Scott Briasco, Los Angeles Department of Water and
Power
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ALSO PRESENT
Mr. Kelly Brown, Ford Motor Company
Dr. Louis Browning, ICF Consulting
Dr. Nicholas Carter
Mr. Steve Casner, Self
Mr. Michael Coates, Green Car Group
Mr. Michael Conlon, Automotive Engine Rebuilders
Mr. Steven Dibner
Mr. Armando Flores, Latino PAC, Stansilaus County Hispanic
Chamber of Commerce
Mr. Tom Fulks, Green Car Marketing & Communications
Mr. Andrew Frank, U.C. Davis
Mr. S. David Freeman
Mr. Tom Gage, AC Propulsion
Mr. Marc Geller
Mr. Robert Gibney, Avestor
Mr. Tim Hastrup
Mr. Steve Heckeroth, 02
Mr. David Hermance, Toyota
Mr. Henry Hogo, SCAQMD
Mr. Steve HOEK, Automotive Engine Rebuilders Ms. Bonnie Homes-Gen, American Lung Association Mr. Steve Hurd, Caterpillar
Mr. Rolad Hwang, NRDC
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ALSO PRESENT
Mr. Carl Johnson, NYS Department of Environmental Conservcation
Mr. Mike Kane, Self
Dr. Douglas Kerr, Self
Ms. Christine Kirby, Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection
Mr. Robert P. Kittell, Electricab Energy
Mr. Ed Kjaer, SCE
Mr. Ben Knight, American Honda
Ms. Gretchen Knudsen, International Truck and Engine
Corporation
Ms. Patricia Lakinsmith, Monterey Technologies
Ms. Elaine Lissner, EV Driver
Mr. Jason Mark, UCS
Mr. Daniel McCarthy, Evercel Inc.
Mr. Rick McCourt, Company Construction
Ms. Amanda Miller, EPRI
Mr. Clayton Miller, Construction Industry Air Quality
Coalition
Mr. Diego Miralles, EV Works
Mr. Bill Mirth, Federal-Mogul
Mr. David Modisette, California Electric Transportation
Coalition
Mr. Dana Muscato, Phoenix Motor Cars
Ms. Mary Nickerson, Toyota
Mr. Mark Nordheim, WSPA
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ALSO PRESENT
Councilman Henery Perea, City of Fresno
Ms. Kimberly Rogers
Mr. Serge Roy, Capitech
Ms. Bev Sanders
Mr. Paul Scott, PEVDC
Ms. Zan Dubin Scott, Self
Mr. Bill Smith, Virtual Agile Manufacturing
Ms. Sandray Spelliscy, PCL
Mr. Dan Sturges, Mobility Lab
Mr. Dean Taylor, SoCal Edison
Mr. Mike Thompson, Self/Air Breather Mr. Edward Thorpe, PEVDC
Mr. Joe Tomita, Toyota
Mr. Jay Wagner, Dana Corporation
Mr. Bill Warf, SMUD
Mr. Reagan Wilson, Stanislaus County
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INDEX
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Pledge of Allegiance 1
Roll Call 1
Item 03-2-1 5
Chairperson Lloyd 5
Executive Officer Witherspoon 5
Staff Presentation 6
Q&A 10
Item 03-2-2 18
Item 03-2-3 18
Chairperson Lloyd 18
Executive Officer Witherspoon 20
Staff Presentation 21
Q&A 36
Mr. Michael Conlon 43
Mr. Steve HOEK 52
Mr. Bill Mirth 54
Mr. Jay Wagner 55
Mt. Steve Hurd 56
Mr. Clayton Miller 58
Mr. Rick McCourt 60
Ms. Gretchen Knudsen 62
Ms. Sandra Spelliscy 63
Ms. Bonnie Holmes-Gen 64
Mr. Mark Nordheim 65
Mr. Dean Taylor 70
Mr. Tom Addison 72
Mr. Henry Hogo 88
Motion 99
Vote 101
Item 03-2-4 101
Chairperson Lloyd 101
Executive Officer Witherspoon 108
Staff Presentation 110
Mr. S. David Freeman 161
Ombudsman Tschogl 168
Q&A 170
Dr. Menahem Anderman 195
Councilman Henry Perea 212
Dr. Andrew Frank 214
Dr. Louis Browning 220
Ms. Amanda Miller 224
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Mr. Joe Tomita 226
Ms. Mary Nickerson 229
Mr. David Hermance 235
Mr. Ben Knight 250
Mr. Kelly Brown 266
Mr. Reagan Wilson 294
Mr. Scott Briasco 301
Mr. Bill Warf 305
Mr. John Boesel 311
Mr. Ed Kjaer 314
Mr. David Modissette 317
Ms. Bonnie Holmes-Gen 331
Mr. Jason Mark 337
Mr. Roland Hwang 345
Mr. Tom Gage 352
Mr. Dana Muscato 358
Mr. Dan Sturges 363
Mr. Tom Fulks 373
Mr. Michael Coates 376
Mr. Diego Miralles 377
Mr. Robert P. Kittell 379
Mr. Tom Addison 384
Mr. Henry Hogo 387
Mr. Carl Johnson 391
Mr. Paul Scott 394
Ms. Zan Dubin Scott 395
Mr. Mike Kane 397
Ms. Christine Kirby 402
Mr. Armando Flores 404
Mr. Tim Hastrup 406
Mr. Robert Gibney 408
Mr. Daniel McCarthy 411
Mr. Serge Roy 413
Mr. Mike Thompson 415
Ms. Marilyn Bardet 420
Ms. Bev Sanders 425
Ms. Clare Bell 429
Ms. Elaine Lissner 431
Ms. Kimberly Rogers 435
Ms. Patricia Lakinsmith 438
Mr. Edward Thorpe 444
Mr. Steve Heckeroth 446
Mr. Thomas Bradley 450
Mr. Stephen Casner 453
Dr. Douglas Kerr 454
Dr. Nicholas Carter 459
Mr. Marc Geller 464
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Mr. Bill Smith 469
Recess 473
Reporter's Certificate 474
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1 PROCEEDINGS
2 CHAIRPERSON LLOYD: Good morning. The March
3 27th, 2003 public meeting of the Air Resources Board will
4 now come to order.
5 Mr. Calhoun, would please lead the Board in the
6 Pledge of Allegiance.
7 (Thereupon the Pledge of Allegiance was
8 Recited in unison.)
9 CHAIRPERSON LLOYD: Thank you.
10 Will the clerk of the Board please call the roll.
11 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Dr. Burke?
12 BOARD MEMBER BURKE: Present.
13 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Mr. Calhoun?
14 BOARD MEMBER CALHOUN: Here.
15 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Ms. D'Adamo?
16 BOARD MEMBER D'ADAMO: Here.
17 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Supervisor DeSaulnier?
18 BOARD MEMBER DeSAULNIER: Here.
19 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Professor Friedman?
20 BOARD MEMBER HUGH FRIEDMAN: Here.
21 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Dr. Friedman?
22 BOARD MEMBER WILLIAM FRIEDMAN: Here.
23 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Mr. McKinnon?
24 BOARD MEMBER McKINNON: Here.
25 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Supervisor Patrick?
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1 Mrs. Riordan?
2 BOARD MEMBER RIORDAN: Here.
3 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Supervisor Roberts?
4 BOARD MEMBER ROBERTS: Here.
5 BOARD CLERK DORAIS: Chairman Lloyd?
6 CHAIRPERSON LLOYD: Here.
7 Thank you.
8 Good morning again.
9 First of all I would like to welcome our new
10 Executive Officer, Catherine Witherspoon. It's her first 11 Board meeting.
12 So we're delighted to have you here, Catherine,
13 and we're delighted to be working with you. It's a tough 14 start to a career in this job, but I know you can handle 15 it.
16 EXECUTIVE OFFICER WITHERSPOON: Thank you.
17 CHAIRPERSON LLOYD: Before we get started, just
18 note about today's proceedings.
19 We are postponing Agenda Item 03-2-2 until next
20 month regarding appointments to the Research Screening
21 Committee, to give staff a little more time to talk to 22 potential candidates.
23 So after our regular health update we'll go
24 directly to Agenda Item Number 3, the Carl Moyer, school 25 bus Item. We're expecting that discussion to take about
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1 an hour, as we're hoping. So if you're here for the Zero
2 Emission Vehicle Regulation, which obviously is the
3 highlight of the day for many of us, you have a bit of
4 time to get some coffee, work on testimony, talk to staff,
5 et cetera.
6 Then once we get started with ZEV, we proceed
7 straight through the rest of the day, only taking short
8 breaks for the court reporter every two hours.
9 That's to accommodate the large list of witnesses
10 we're expecting today. We don't have an idea of the
11 number of witnesses at this time, but obviously in the
12 next few hours we'll have a pretty good idea.
13 If need be we'll extend the hearing to tomorrow. 14 But my colleagues now will have to gauge that to see how 15 long and how fast we can get along. And clearly, in that 16 context, I'm already under significant pressure by my
17 colleagues here to limit the testimony, given that we may 18 have a large number of people. And so, as you can see the 19 pincer movement here, it's likely that I will have to
20 exert three minutes or so if we have a large number of 21 witnesses. But we won't know that, and I've give the
22 witnesses plenty of time. Clearly, the testimony up front 23 from the major stakeholders, that will not be impacted by 24 the three minutes because these are some critical issues, 25 and we'll need adequate response to the staff presentation
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1 as well.
2 I'd also like to ask anyone in the audience who
3 wishes to testify today, as I indicated, keep comments as
4 brief as possible. The other part of it I think, and
5 consistent with this, you know, we've had hundreds of
6 letters, many of which repeat the same message. So people
7 who are testifying who all have the same message, it would
8 be helpful, in fact, if you just highlight any
9 differences. Believe me, as I've indicated when I was
10 flooded the last time with E-mails, it's like a dessert. 11 You know, the first few teaspoons or tablespoons are
12 excellent. But after, you know, a truckload of that, it 13 doesn't have the same impact.
14 So I think it's important that we focus some of
15 those so we add on. And the Board again has read a lot of 16 the material here, and I think we're smart enough to be
17 able to digest the key parts.
18 But as I indicated, until we know the number of
19 people signed, we will not have a good idea of where we
20 are.
21 So with that I guess we will proceed to the first
22 agenda item today. Reminding anybody who wishes to sign 23 up, please see the attendant outside. And if you have
24 copies of the written statements, provide 30 copies if you 25 can.
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1 The item here is the recent health research
2 conducted in the Netherlands regarding the association
3 between traffic-related air pollution and mortality in an
4 elderly population.
5 At this point I'd like to turn it Ms. Witherspoon
6 to introduce the item and begin staff's presentation.
7 EXECUTIVE OFFICER WITHERSPOON: You're going to
8 have to get used to saying that. It's a longer name.
9 Good morning, Dr. Lloyd and members of the Board.
10 This a particularly interesting health study
11 because it adds to our understanding of particulate matter 12 and its effect on the elderly. Over the past few years we 13 have talked to you many times about children's unique
14 vulnerability to air pollution. This study reminds us 15 that there are other sensitive populations at risk.
16 This study also has an environmental justice
17 angle because it involves near-roadway and near-highway 18 exposures, something that many California communities are 19 concerned about.
20 We talked about some of these issues at the
21 January meeting, and we will be addressing the subject of 22 environmental justice research and data needs again in
23 April.
24 Dr. Norman Kado will make the staff presentation
25 this morning.
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1 Dr. Kado?
2 DR. KADO: Thank you very much, Ms. Witherspoon.
3 Good morning, Chairman Lloyd and members of the
4 Board.
5 (Thereupon an overhead presentation was
6 Presented as follows.)
7 DR. KADO: Investigators have previously reported
8 associations between long-term exposure to particulate
9 matter, air pollution and mortality. The Air Resources
10 Board has recently adopted new annual PM10 and PM2.5
11 standards and continues to review the latest information 12 to protect the most sensitive members of the public from 13 chronic and cute health effects related to particulate air 14 pollution.
15 The presentation this morning is a discussion of
16 a study evaluating the association between long-term
17 exposure to traffic-related pollutants and cardiopulmonary 18 mortality in a cohort of individuals, age 55 to 69.
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20 DR. KADO: Results of three previous studies
21 presented in an earlier health update have suggested that 22 long-term exposure to particulate matter air pollution is 23 associated with increased mortality from respiratory and 24 cardiovascular disease and from lung cancer.
25 For estimating exposure to air pollutants in
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1 these studies, investigators compared several large,
2 usually metropolitan regions with different ambient air
3 pollution concentrations, with the assumption that
4 exposure is uniform within each region. This assumption,
5 however, may not accurately reflect exposure, especially
6 for pollutants with important local sources.
7 Investigators in Europe reported that
8 concentrations of nitrogen dioxide, an important
9 traffic-related pollutant, for example, varied between
10 small regions within cities. They indicated that traffic 11 intensity and distance to major roadways are important in 12 assessing long-term exposure to this pollutant.
13 Investigators have further reported that chronic
14 respiratory disease in children is associated with living 15 near major roadways.