MARCH6, 2017
Quo Vadis, Papa Francisco?
44-ARE THESE RUMOURS OR ARE INTERRELIGIOUS MASSES NEXT?
Bergoglio preparing for “Intercommunal liturgy”
Caution: This is from a Sedevacantist source
By Fr. Cristoforo, February 6, 2017
Foreword by Fr. Paul Kramer: THE ENTIRE "PONTIFICATE" OF FREEMASON BERGOGLIO HAS BEEN A PREPARATION FOR INTERCOMMUNION -- TO UNITE THE "CHURCHES" WITH A COMMON LITURGY.
This is incredible. It's already happening. A secret committee set up by Bergoglio to "reform" the Mass into a common ecumenical "memorial", which will be invalid. The agenda to allow communion to adulterers is also for this purpose: not just a common liturgy, but a merger of the Catholic Church with the Protestant sects. Any priest who refuses to celebrate the new sacrilegious rite will be declared "outside the Church".
Source: “Spifferi da Santa Marta sull’intercomunione”
Loosely translated from the original Italian
"Drafts from Santa Marta intercommunion" of Fra Cristoforo
The chronicles of Santa Marta never end. Here is a statement that has nothing short of grotesque.Meanwhile, today Bergoglio received a delegation "Ecumenical" of the German Evangelical Church ... read here(
Apart from the usual syrupy speeches here is the usual "beatification" of Luther and his reformation blah blah blah.But there's more. Meanwhile already it circulated the news that the Bishop of Rome has given directions for a change of "Eucharistic Liturgy".He gave some tips, which then pass his scrutiny to change in a nutshell the rite of Holy Mass.I quote only an article on this, but the net is full of sources( confidential source of Santa Marta, referring heard some discussion - between lunch and the other - he told me that in fact the change of the Mass, wanted by Bergoglio, has one PURPOSE ONLY: IS ECUMENICAL i.e "create" a Mass that is not in opposition to the Protestants and then a liturgy that we can celebrate "in communion".And 'This is the truth. And this is his intention. A perennial liturgy that is ecumenical, however. Obviously I predict that Bergoglio to do this will also change the text of the "Consecration".Which would make the Mass invalid. And I predict that even those who will refuse to celebrate with this "new rite" will be considered out of the Church.The Bishop of Rome wants to become "el presidente" of the various denominations; and to do that he is selling Jesus Christ at a price much lower than Judas.As for me, since I am a priest, I will refuse to celebrate this type of liturgy. And I tell you that you will return to being Christians in the "catacombs."The intent of Bergoglio, change to "unite."Even now, in the discourse of those Lutherans, he has already mentioned that the liturgical division between Catholics and Protestants hurts especially the "couples" mixed ( it seems to want to also accelerating them.My "source" tells me that is what almost done.Only a matter of time.I suggest to all readers to pray to the Madonna with many Rosaries. And to be persevering in time of persecution that will come soon.
Fr. Cristoforo
False Prophet Coming: Formalized One World Ecumenical Church
Caution: This is from a Sedevacantist source
By Maurizio d’Orlando, March 1, 2017
Dear friends,
The Vatican Anonymous blog provides further classified reports from the confidential committee established by Bergoglio.
The new rumours are concerning the total change of the concepts of parish and of confession and the very name of the Mass.
Catholic parishes shall be morphed into “ecumenical communities”, with members of other Christian denominations, Anglicans and Protestants.
They will not be any longer presided by the Catholic parish priest but by a team of ecumenical “pastors”. Lay member of the community may be part of the presiding team.
Also the Sacrament of Penance, the confession, shall be changed. Those who may wish, shall still be able to go to a private confession. However, there shall be new “community penitential liturgies” for the public community confession, providing the pardon of the community.
As informed already, the main change shall affect the Eucharistic Liturgy.
The Holy Communion shall be substituted by a unified rite. Consequently the Holy Mass shall be called “sacred memorial”.
It is expected that the vast majority of the Catholics shall follow and conform to the planned changes, which shall be introduced softly.
As mentioned, Bergoglio in exchange for the achievements should be recognized as the President of all the Christian denominations.
The blogger cites the visions of the blessed Catherine Emmerich.
Greetings
In Christo Rege per Mariam Reginam
Maurizio d’Orlando
Vatican reportedly working on “Ecumenical Rite of Mass” for joint Worship with Protestants
Caution: This is from a Sedevacantist source which cites a Catholic author, Marco Tosatti
March 6, 2017
Teddy bear “Mass”
What difference, at this point, would it make?
The times we live in are such that it is increasingly difficult to distinguish fact from fiction, truth from satire.
A few days ago a rumor began to spread on the internet to the effect that the Vatican is working on drafting a new, ecumenical rite of “Mass”, onethat can be attended by “Catholics” (i.e. Novus Ordos), Anglicans, and other Protestants, andthat can also be concelebrated by “clergy” from these three groups. In other words, it would be a lowest-common denominator worship service that presents no doctrinal obstacle to Novus Ordos, Anglicans, or other Protestants (the Eastern Orthodox areconspicuously absent from this project).
This wouldn’t have to be terribly different from what the Vatican II Sect uses now (the 1969Novus Ordo Missaeor“New Mass” of “Pope” Paul VI). After all, the Novus Ordo“Mass” already fulfils these requirements in large part. As Cardinals Alfredo Ottaviani and Antonio Bacci, along with other Roman theologians, stated in their open letter to Paul VI:
…[T]he Novus Ordo Missae — considering the new elements widely susceptible to widely different interpretations which are implied or taken for granted — represents, both as a whole and in its details, a striking departure from the Catholic theology of the Mass as it was formulated in Session 22 of the Council of Trent.
(Alfredo Ottaviani et al.,Brief Critical Study of the New Order of Mass, Sep. 25, 1969)
But not only high-ranking Vatican prelates noticed the Protestantism of the New Mass. Even more importantly, thecommon folk in the pew did, too.
In any case, when we heard rumors that “Pope” Francis was looking to create another, even more “ecumenical” liturgical rite, we were skeptical at first and heldoff on reporting on ituntil we could get some sort of confirmation.
At this point, the matter has been reported by mainstream Vaticanist Marco Tosatti,albeitasa rumor. As the journalisthimself says, however, “[M]y sources are usually good”, and he surely has no interest in hurting his own credibility.
Tosatti’s piece appeared on March 1, 2017, and can be readin the original Italian here. An English translation of this article is providedhere:
Ecumenical Mass, a work in progress? The consecration makes the Protestants uncomfortable. The ployof silence…
By Marco Tosatti
These are only rumors, so we should only take them with a grain or even two or three of salt. But the mere fact that these allegations are circulating is a signal; and my sources are usually good.
We will write everything in theconditional. A mixed commission of Catholics, Lutherans, and Anglicans, boundto secrecy, is working on implementinga kind of rite ofmass that can be attendedby people from all three [of these] Christian denominations. There is no mention of the Orthodox. There is no written document yet, it’s all byverbal [i.e. oral] communication.
The hypothesis regards a first part with a “liturgy of the word”, which does not pose any problem; after the confession ofsins, asking God for forgiveness, and reciting the Gloria, there would be the readings and the Gospel.
The commission is allegedly studying the problem of the Creed. Protestant churches prefer to pray the Apostles’ Creed, although they do recognizethe Nicene Creed. The Catholic Church alternates between them. So not even this point should be a major problem.
Even the presentation of the gifts,although it must be studied with care,does not appear to present a major obstacle to the project.
The central issue is that of the Eucharist. The Catholic understandingof the Eucharist is profoundly different from that of the Lutherans or of other Protestant denominations. And of course atthis crucial moment, whenfor Catholics (but not for Protestants) transubstantiation takes place,the liturgycannot be different for the various celebrants.
Buthow can a common liturgy be celebrated that clearly differs in the wordingright at the most important pointof the event?
One of the proposed possible solutions would be silence. It would mean that after the Sanctus, atthe moment in which normally during the Mass the priest would say the words: “Father, you are holy indeed…” the different celebrants would keep silent, everyone mentally repeating “his own” formula.
The silence is broken inthe congregation with the recitation ofthe Our Father. It is still not clear how thelines forCommunion would be formed.
This is the information we got, and we pass it on. A partial confirmation that these works are in progress comes from an article byLuisella Scrosati inBussola Quotidiana, in which she presents a stratagem “found” by the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, then headed by Cardinal [Walter] Kasper. This stratagem acknowledged the validity of the Anaphora of Addai and Mari (eucharistic prayer of the Oriental Assyrian Church, aka the Nestorian Church). This is a prayer that does not contain any words of consecration, “except ‘in a dispersed euchological way’, i.e. not in an explicit way (‘This is my Body… This is the chalice of my Blood’), as a[Vatican] document from 2001 says[–link added by Novus Ordo Watch]. This could therefore be extremely useful as a justifying principle for a new eucharistic prayer without any words of consecration that could upset the Protestant brethren”. That liturgy was exclusive to the Chaldean Church and the Assyrian Church, in case there were pastoral problems. But just imagine if such a minor detail could turn out to have great significance in the present ecumenical climate.De minimis non curat praetor[“The chief magistrate does not concern himself with trifles”]…
(Marco Tosatti,“Messa Ecumenica, Lavori in Corso? La Consacrazione Imbarazza I Riformati. L’escamotage Del Silenzio…”Stilum Curiae, March 1, 2017; translation by Novus Ordo Watch.)
For all those who now think, “There is no way this will ever happen!”, we would like to remind you that the man currently in charge of the Vatican II Sect is Jorge Bergoglio; andhere is a comprehensive listof all the things you used to believe could never happen, thathavesince happened.
In light of thiswell-founded rumor, “Cardinal” Francesco Coccopalmerio’s recent remarks take on even greater significance: The Vatican “cardinal” has suggested that we stop thinking of sacramentsso rigidly as only either valid or invalid. For the sake of ecumenism, heopined that we should start looking into sacraments perhaps having “imperfect” or “partial” validity….
You simply can’t make it up, folks.
By the way, regarding that heretical-schismatic “Mass” without a consecration,what Tosattidid not mention in his article is thattheAnaphora of Addai and Mari, that consecration-less “Eucharistic prayer”, wasconfirmed as validby “Cardinal” Joseph Ratzinger (who was then the head of theCongregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) and “Pope” John Paul II! Don’t you hate it when that happens?!
As the officialVatican document states:
…a long and careful study was undertaken of the Anaphora of Addai and Mari, from a historical, liturgical and theological perspective, at the end of which the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith on January 17th, 2001 concluded that this Anaphora can be considered valid. H.H. Pope John Paul II has approved this decision.
(“Pontifical” Council for Promoting Christian Unity,“Guidelines for Admission to the Eucharist between the Chaldean Church and the Assyrian Church of the East”, Oct. 25, 2001)
The Vatican II Church is one heck of a joke.
But what do you know: After decades of frowning on the traditional Catholic practice of pronouncing the words of consecrationin a low, almost-inaudible voice, the Vatican may just go back to promotingsilence at the most important part of the liturgy — except, this time, at the expense of the verywords of consecration! Minor detail!
Just wait till they draw the logical conclusion from having anecumenicalliturgy and come up with aninterreligiousworship service. After all, the groundwork has already been laid: As they freely admit, they do alreadyworship the same god as the Muslims…
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