20 August 2014 doc.: 18-14/0062r00
IEEE 802.18
Radio Regulatory-TAG
Date: 20 August, 2014
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / email
Author(s):
Jay Holcomb, Secretary, RR-TAG / Itron / Liberty Lake, WA / 509-891-3281 /
Officer presiding:
Michael Lynch,
Chair, RR-TAG / MJ Lynch & Assoc. / Allen, Tx / 972-814-4901 /
Abstract
Minutes of the IEEE 802 RR-TAG Teleconference, 20 August, 2014
These are the minutes of IEEE 802.18 Teleconference; 20 August, 2014.
Wednesday, 20 August, 2014
1. The Vice-Chair called the meeting to order at 14:10 ET.
2. The Vice-Chair reminded the members to send an email if they attended the call with their name and affiliation.
3. The current agenda is document 18-14/0056r01.
a. The Vice Chair reminded members all normal notices on anti-trust provisions of IEEE 802, the Patent questions and Policy, inappropriate topics per the IEEE requirements, and Letters of Assurance (LOA), are in affect. Slides were shown.
b. The agenda was reviewed, the Chair asked if any voter has any updates to the agenda.
i. No one spoke up. With that the agenda was approved by consent agenda, as posted and presented.
ii. The secretary made r02 removing the draft watermark and posted on mentor.
4. First agenda item: Any FCC, ITU or regulatory organization activity needing to be discussed?
a. Discussed the FCC granting of waivers to different cable companies to use U-NII-1 band. No action is needed by the RR TAG.
b. The USDOT NHTSA released an ANPRM just recently on the 5.9GHz ITS band for V2V communications, that 802.11p is using and 802.11ac will be using. The due date for comments is 20October, 2104.
i. 802.11/15 Reg. SC has a DSRC team is reviewing and will likely be addressing this ANPRM. The RR TAG may see a draft on the next teleconference.
ii. There is concern we could lose access to the band, if we don’t act.
c. Ofcom had a consultation on spectrum release for TDD-LTE in the 2.3 and 3.4GHz bands. They realized 2.3GHz is too close to 2.4GHz license exempt band including Radio Local Area Networks. Ofcom was assuming 2.4GHz would be abandon, which was a poor assumption.
i. Ofcom has made some measurement and saw blocking into 2412, 2422, 2437 MHz RLANs, report is due out by November/December time frame. They are asking how they can co-exist with 2.4GHz systems,
ii. There are several Ofcom reports on Bluetooth and Wi-Fi being affected by TDD-LTE signals in 2.3 GHz band. Healthcare industry has long equipment lifetimes.
iii. Work is progressing in the 802.11/15 Reg. SC on this as it could cause serious interference to the bottom ½ of the 2.4GHz band.
iv. The EC 2.3GHz cellular consultation will go for public comments in October and IEEE 802 should comment.
d. It was brought up about ECO SE24 sharing in 5725-5925 MHz (FSS, Road Tolling, ITS, Wireless Industrial Automation, Broadband Wireless Access, Short Range Devices). There will be a report out of their August meeting that should be reviewed.
5. Agenda item: FCC Part §15.9 to deal with drone-based imagery.
a. See the blog at the following URL for more details: http://www.marcus-spectrum.com/Blog/files/drones%20and%20Part15%20214.html
b. Mike Marcus addressed the call on the concerns of a threat to the unlicensed bands due to drones.
c. First point was that use of the ISM bands from the higher altitude, will increase the range beyond what most un-licensed systems were designed around.
d. Second point is the possible use of jammers used to block the drones with cameras, by the public that is concerned with the imagery that a drone can get.
e. The suggestion is to push the FCC to amend rule 15.9 to protect the license exempt band from these. Some questions were raised if IEEE is the best place to address this issue.
f. Looking at the concern on altitude, there are other cases where Part 15 uses, e.g. WiFi, can be at high points now, and unlicensed systems have to consider this already.
g. For jammers, they are not allowed today, so how much can IEEE 802 do.
h. Discussion continued and in the end no action was taken.
i. For the minutes: § 15.9 Prohibition against eavesdropping.
Except for the operations of law enforcement officers conducted under lawful authority, no person shall use, either directly or indirectly, a device operated pursuant to the provisions of this part for the purpose of overhearing or recording the private conversations of others unless such use is authorized by all of the parties engaging in the conversation.
6. Agenda item: The Report ITU-R M.[LOCAL_COVERAGE], w.r.t. IMT and M.1802 in WP5A.
a. A document on this was not found, and it was reported because it is being worked on.
b. Key point of concern is a proposal to add “Fair and Equitable Access to Unlicensed Spectrum Assets” to resolve the issue of reflecting radio technologies listed in Rec. M.1802.
i. There is some questions on how IMT is treated .vs. license exempt users.
c. M.[LOCAL COVERAGE] text will appear as CPM text in March 2015 ahead of WRC-15 September(prep), October(meeting).
d. For now this is an awareness item and we should monitor as it progresses.
7. Agenda item: Text to 911 2nd R&O, 3rd FNPRM
a. The ruling is posted on mentor: 18-14-0059-00-0000-fcc-2ndRO-3rdFNPRMadopts-rules-to-promote-widespread-text-to-911-availability.pdf
a. From the R&O: “In the Second Report and Order, we require that Commercial Mobile Radio Service (CMRS) providers and other providers of interconnected text messaging applications (collectively, “covered text providers”) be capable of supporting text-to-911 service by December 31, 2014.
b. In the end this is for information and awareness of something coming.
8. Agenda item: Discuss electronic meetings and Study Groups .vs. WGs.
a. Through emails over the past weeks, it was determined that a TAG does not need a 30day notice for a teleconference like the sponsors and WGs, actually only 5 days.
b. However, it was clear from those attending we should maintain 10 days minimum notice, and the RR TAG will do that.
c. From the LMSC P&P, sub clause 5.5 on TAGs, item e) for reference:
e) Between plenary and interim meetings, the TAG Chair is empowered to schedule teleconference meetings to allow the TAG to conduct business as required, provided that the date and time of the teleconference and agenda are published on the TAG website and e-mail reflector at least 5 days before the meeting."
9. Status on 802.18 Operation Manual.
a. Some progress, and will have a draft at the San Antonio F2F in November.
10. Chair asked if any other business to discuss?
11. The next IEEE RR TAG 802.18 teleconference will be 03September, 2014 at 14:00 ET, per the meeting call sent on 21July, 2014.
12. With no further input the Chair adjourned the meeting at 15:29 ET.
13. The next IEEE RR TAG 802.18 face to face meeting will be the Plenary from 03 – 06 November, 2014, at the Grand Hyatt, San Antonio, TX, USA.
Attendees
Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems, Inc.
John Notor, Notor Research
Paul Nikolich, Self-employed, YAS BBV, Samsung, Huawei, Intel, Silver Spring Networks, HP
Rich Kennedy, MediaTek, Inc.
Jay Holcomb, Itron, Inc.
Mike Marcus, Marcus Spectrum Solutions
Kathryn Bennett, IEEE Staff
Pat Thayer, Broadcom Corp.
Ben Rolfe, Blind Creek Associates
Vijay Auluck, Intel Corp.
Victor Hou, Broadcom Corp.
Mike Lynch, MJ Lynch Associates
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