This just came in from Bob West at Saint Simons Island GA. He passed Mr. Kennedy's work with researching Hawk ADA sites in Korea. So for those of you who served a tour or two in Korea with a Hawk Battery, may want to contact Mr. Kennedy with your knowledge of the site you served with.
The C7/2 site near Namyang was C1/2 when I was there 1976 to 1977. So you can see how tough this research can be. Also you can link to the map they have at -
and see how hard it is for them to work with it.
Trapper
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38th Air Defense Brigade (HAWK) Battery Locations - Korea - 1960's
William Kennedyhawkvets@... Wrote:
Sorry to take so long to answer, I have been in the hospital for the past two months.
There would be two cord. for each site. The admin site and the TAC site would be different. You would spend so many days on the admin site and so many on the TAC site depending on your site and the distance between them. Your on time and off time. I have never seen the TAC and site numbers being different. I know there were TAC sites 1 through 5 but I don't think they belonged to us.
Bob West Wrote:
That would be a damn good question to put out on the forum! What does the TAC 5, Site 44 mean in the case of B-6-44 HAWK & likewise for TAC 5, Site 33 for D-7-2 HAWK? The numbers cover 1-5.
Ken Legacy
I have your site listed as TAC 5 Site 44. I have no clue as to what the numbers 1 through 5 means on the listings I have.
I have D-7/2 as TAC 5 Site 33 (Nov 71).
Bottom of page, Suwon map section. Looks like 1 is admin and the other the site.
Click for larger view. Sorry, that's the best it looks. Even the original map can't be read any better.
Something I never noticed before. A lot of the site listings have 2 coordinates. Maybe 1 for admin and 1 for actual site. I may have to look into that further.
Ken
From: Bob West
A couple of years ago, at the suggestion of an alumni friend from Battery B-6-44, I started a project of accurately locating all of the U.S. Army HAWK batterys in S. Korea & associated administration areas of that period. I used "Google Earth" plus old maps, personal accounts & flight charts. I value most highly the wonderful people with whom I have connected during this time from the Army, Air Force, Koreans, both here & abroad, & computer wizards. They were such great help. It's been quite an education for me & it's kept me off the streets for a right good while too!
I was fortunate to travel (TDY) a lot when I was in Korea during 1968 - 1970, which greatly helped me with the geography. Many folks didn't really have much of an idea where they were over there and didn't have too much chance to move around, except on truck runs, so I am attempting to help with that. I notice that as more people retire they become more interested in these things, as I did. I just wanted to pass along some of the things that I learned.
All locations are given in WGS-84 format (current GPS standards). Comparing this against old charts & maps, that you might have, will reveal some error but this is the way of today's navigational standards. Using my information should enable one to see where his old missile site and barracks were or are located. Some areas haven't come into clear focus yet but will in time. I'm trying to keep up with the changes. If you ever get a chance to travel overseas, back to the "Land of the Morning Calm", you will be able to put these numbers into your own GPS and actually get to your old unit location (if desired!)! I have included a number of other locations, such as "Villes", that I have come across (& things found while looking for other things).
Any corrections or additions are always appreciated. I know that I have made some mistakes & omissions so please feel free to contribute.
This information is for anybody who finds it interesting. I also intend to forward it to the Korean War Project, Hawkvets, Tour of Duty, Agent Orange folks, etc. Distribution, advice and feedback is encouraged.
Bob West - 23R20, B-6-44 Kunsan AB 1968, 38th Bde AMU & 8th Army AMU
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Headquarters Battery 1/2 Admin.: There is already confusion on this one as I understand that there have been two admins. (also 7/2) there at 37° 27.0'N / 126° 54.0'E or near Siheung, app 10 mi. S of Seoul. This is a very developed area now.
A-1-2 Admin. (A-7-2 Admin. also): I have an Admin. at 37° 4.354'N / 127° 9.674'E and this is confirmed by "Google". Nearby is Songun-ni.
A-1-2 Tac site (A-7-2 Tac also): 70's 37° 4.588'N / 127° 10.467'E confirmed
B-1-2 Admin.: There is more confusion here at 37° 21.855'N / 126° 46.547'E. This conflicts with B-7-2, which I understand was here first. "Google" confirms this and states that it has been returned to the Koreans. I can't identify the nearest village name but notes tell me that it is "Wonha-Ri". There is lots of development toward the Yellow Sea.
B-1-2 Tac. site 42, Another site # change: B-7-2 was here first and replaced by B-1-2, I understand. Pos. is 32° 22.057'N / 126° 46.879'E. confirmed
C-1-2 Admin.: 37° 11.825'N / 126° 50.241'E, 1970's confirmed
C-1-2 Tac. site: 37° 12.326'N / 126° 50.882'E, 1970's confirmed
D-1-2 Admin.: Appears to be at same location as tac. site
D-1-2 Tac. site: 37° 28.270'N / 127° 0.543'E confirmed by Google
Headquarters Battery 7/2 Admin.: I've found two locations - both very industrialized and close together at 37° 26.251'N / 126° 53.222'E and 37° 27.058'N / 126° 54.026'E on opposite sides of the canal - help me somebody! I show Songon-Ni as the nearest village but it has probably been covered by growth. Siheung is nearby.
A-7-2 Admin.: 37° 4.354'N / 127° 9.674'E, in 60's, see B-1-2, became A-1-2, in 70's confirmed. Songon-Ni was the nearest village and is at 37° 4.434'N / 127° 9.432'E
A-7-2 Tac. site: 37° 4.572'N / 127° 10.467'E, confirmed
B-7-2 Admin.: 37° 21.832'N / 126° 46.532'E, became B-1-2 in 70's confirmed
B-7-2 Tac. site 41: 37° 22.057'N / 126° 46.879'E, became B-1-2 in 70's confirmed, nearest village was Soreapo-Gu?
C-7-2 Admin.: 37° 11.798'N / 126° 50.156'E, confirmed, nearest village is Namyang at 37° 12.538'N / 126° 49.121'E, from the 60's
C-7-2 Tac. site: 37° 12.291'N / 126° 50.902'E, from the 60's, confirmed
D-7-2 Admin.: from the 60's, unable to locate
D-7-2 Tac. site: unsure location of 37° 26.545'N / 126° 57.104'E This was an Army coordinate and shows nothing there. Gwachon shows as the nearest village at 37° 25.759'N / 126° 59.258'E but it's a big place now! Highest hill in area is at 37° 26.723'N / 126° 57.818'E at 2000 ft., help!
Headquarters Battery 7/5 admin. : app. location is 37° 52.963'N / 127° 43.344'E at Camp Page, Help somebody, it's a big place! Nearest "village" is Chuncheon. It surrounds Camp Page.
A-7-5 admin.: unable to locate
A-7-5 Tac.: unable to locate
B-7-5 Admin.: 37° 53.603'N / 127° 33.518'E, closest village is Hwaak-Ni (sp) or Gapyeong at 37° 49.916'N / 127° 30.572'E ?
B-7-5 Tac. site: 38° 0.063'N / 127° 32.416'E, confirmed,Mae Bong mountain - highest HAWK site in the world (4645 ft.)!
C-7-5 Admin.: 37° 49.718'N / 127° 47.145'E, confirmed, Chuncheon - nearest "village" that I see.
C-7-5 Tac. site 40: 37° 49.831'N / 127° 48.992'E, confirmed, I have a (nearby) village named Hwacheon that's actually closer to D-7-5. See following.
D-7-5 Admin.: 38° 3.345'N / 127° 41.779'E This position only shows a big scrape mark although I received good verbal information on this one. Hwacheon is close by on the river at 38° 6.351'N / 127° 42.485'E. confirmed
D-7-5 Tac. site: 38° 3.006'N / 127° 41.683'E Strange looking site. confirmed
Headquarters Battery 6/44 Admin. "Reno Hill": 36° 31.949'N / 126° 37.490'E, confirmed, very little to recognize now, nearest villages are Hongseong & Gwangcheon - both app. 5 mi. N & S of unit on main road.
Reno Hill Tac. site (Radar only): 36° 31.820'N / 126° 36.355'E, confirmed by survey & aerial photographs, very little to recognize now
A-6-44 Admin.: 36° 57.046'N / 126° 57.453'E , I understand that this was D-7-2 previously. I'm told that the nearest village was Tok-ma-Ni, but it is Deokmok-Ri now.
A-6-44 Tac. site: 36° 56.619'N / 126° 57.751'E, confirmed, Old D-7-2 I'm told. Nearest village is Anjung-Ni.
B-6-44 Admin.: 35° 54.753'N / 126° 37.081'E on Kunsan AB, confirmed, nearest city is Kunsan
B-6-44 Tac. site 44: 35° 54.214'N / 126° 40.707'E confirmed, nearest village is Okku at base of hill. My site!
C-6-44 Admin.: 36° 56.74'N / 126° 34.324'E confirmed, village nearby is Dangjinpo-Ri at 36° 53.61'N / 126° 37.70'E & Janghang-Ri at 36° 56.809'N / 126° 34.898'E
C-6-44 Tac. site: 36° 56.579'N / 126° 34.124'E confirmed
D-6-44 Admin.: 36° 8.363'N / 126° 36386'E, confirmed, nearest village is Piin at 36° 8.316'N / 126° 36.234'E
D-6-44 Tac. site: 36° 9.208'N / 126° 33.769'E, confirmed
Headquarters Battery 2/71 Admin.: I have Camp Richmond at app. 37° 31.775'N / 126° 48.693'E as a "non-firing position". It is south of the SE end of Kimpo ramp. I also have a HHQ/DSP 2/71 at Camp Red Cloud (Oijongbu City) at 37° 45.130'N / 127° 1.827'E, confirmed. There was a search radar (at 37° 45.791'N / 127° 0.164'E) that seldom worked, I heard, confirmed. This is confusing.
A-2-71 Admin.: 37° 37.417'N / 126° 42.404'E or off the NW end of Kimpo ramp, surrounded by Gimpo City, confirmed (slight change thanks to 1Lt. Steven Smith - Ex TCO from the day)
A-2-71 Tac. site 42: 37° 36.997'N / 126° 42.560'E, confirmed
B-2-71 Admin.: 37° 54.035'N / 127° 5.059'E Nearest "ville" is Tokari at 37° 53.742'N / 127° 5.100'E, just S of Camp Hovey. I'd love to find "Mickey Mouse Corners". Pobwon-Ni is located at app. 37° 50.944'N / 126° 52.381'E. I understand that this group was located in five different places over the years. confirmed
B-2-71 Tac. site 32A: 38° 3.787'N / 127° 15.367'E, SW of Camp Kaiser at one time, other site is an area NE of C-2-71
C-2-71 Admin.: This is a tedious one as things have changed. I have B & C admins. combined at 37° 51.148'N / 126° 52.714'E, Camp Irwin. I also have a position of C-2-71 at 37° 51.271'N / 126° 52.695'E, Camp Warner - C admin. confirmed
C-2-71 Tac. site 36: 37° 50.501'N / 126° 56.154'E, still not a good picture, confirmed
D-2-71 Admin.: 37° 55.117'N / 127° 3.757'E confirmed. Another location was app. 5 mi. W of Camp Red Cloud (1972).
D-2-71 Tac. site 34: unclear exposure but I am advised that it is 37° 44.970'N / 126° 55.838'E. It is app. 6 mi. W of Uijongbu. confirmed
38th Brigade Headquarters at Osan AB: 37° 4.844'N / 127° 2.155'E confirmed. The nearest Cities are Songtan and Osan
AADCAP 1(S), site 91?: unclear photography but I'm advised that it is near 36° 55.705'N / 126° 26.442'E
OP CEN 71?: Hill 468 at HHB 2/71, I'm unsure of the terminology. Is this the erratic search radar SW of Camp Red Cloud at 37° 45.791'N / 127° 0.164'E?
AADCAP 2(N), site 92?: 37° 29.866'N / 126° 32.266'E on Walmi-Do, just NE of Inchon International Airport, I got this by word of mouth - any help is appreciated.
Sea Range, site 2, Camp Holiday: 36° 17.988'N / 126° 31.440'E, The location is confirmed from flight charts, eye witnesses and photographs. Nice place to visit.
This finishes up my report but for those that are interested, I am throwing in a few more locations that may be of some value to those who might have been there and would like to see what their old
location looks like today.
HERC Tac site E-4-44: 35° 46.869'N / 126° 55.880'E, unclear image but this will be improved with time. The site was near Gimje
Yongsan Bus Station: 37° 32.173'N / 126° 58.769'E, confirmed,same old place & the police station is still next door.
YDNCOOM (Yongsan District Non-Commisioned Officers Open Mess) "The Country Club of the Orient": 37° 31.950'N / 126°59.225'E, confirmed
Panmun-jom: 37° 57.345'N / 126° 40.639'E, confirmed
Freedom Bridge: 37° 53.440'N / 126° 43.985'E, confirmed
U.S.S. Pueblo, in Pyongyang now, no longer in Wonson: 38° 59.457'N / 125° 43.530'E, confirmed
Paris Highpoint site (for the AF guys): 36° 47.787'N / 127° 12.476'E
I'd also like to locate the Ascom Reception Center, if anyone is up on that one.