Questions for Sue Gilliatt

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Bob, there is no set pattern of answers from Sue Gilliatt such that I can give you one set of contiguous questions to ask her. So, please observe that some expected answers will make a few of the suggested questions below unnecessary. Her answers, will of course, partially determine the course of your questioning:

Question Set #1 : Objective: to show, if we can, what is true -- that Sue Gilliatt did purchase H3O, but that she never actually used the product.

  1. "Did you (Sue Gilliatt) ever purchase a product from Alpha Omega Labs called H3O?

[Expected answer: 'Yes']

  1. "Is it not true that in January, 2003, you attempted to return H3O to get a refund?"

[Truthful answer: 'Yes' --- if she says 'No' go to #3.]

  1. "I have a Sworn Affidavit from a Tabetha Ladoux, a former employee of Alpha Omega Labs, that you called the company and requested a refund for your purchase of H3O. Is it your position then that Tabetha is lying?"
  2. "You never actually used H3O, did you?"

[Truthful answer: 'No' … ]

Question Set #2: Objective: To show that the timeline of her May 29th Sworn Affidavit wherein she claims that Dan Rabur's product caused the damage to her nose is entirely inconsistent with the claims she made with respect to Cansema Salve doing the "damage."

Question Set #3: Objective: To illucidate the nature of her conversations with "James Carr" (myself, Greg Caton) concerning her use of Cansema Salve.

  1. "Do you have any recollection concerning any discussions with someone at Alpha Omega Labs known as 'James Carr'?

[Truthful answer: 'Yes' Her answer: undeterminable]

2. "How many times did you speak with James Carr by phone? … by email?"

  1. "Did you ever make a complaint to Alpha Omega Labs via email about any injury that any of their products caused you?" [Truthful answer: No … but if she says 'Yes' ask for copies, which, of course, do not exist].
  2. "Did you place your Alpha Omega orders by phone or via email?"

[Truthful answer: her first order by made on the internet, subsequent orders were made via phone].

5. [Presuming a truthful response to #3 above:] "Why didn't you ever think to complain about

your missing nose to James Carr or to anyone else at Alpha Omega Labs?"

6…. "Isn't it true that in speaking to James Carr about your response to Cansema Salve, the only

complaint you ever lodged was that it was taking longer than usual for the decavitation to

heal over?" [Truthful answer: True]

7. [Assuming a truthful response:] "Why didn't you think to ever complain to the company

prior to filing a lawsuit?"

  1. "When you called Alpha Omega Labs and spoke to James Carr about your nose, how did he

respond to you? Did he give you any kind of comment or recommendation?"

  1. "Did you follow those recommendations?"

Question Set #4: Objective: To illucidate the nature of her conversations with "James Carr" (myself, Greg Caton) concerning her use of Cansema Salve.

  1. "Your attorney indicates in this prepared 'timeline' that you telephoned Alpha Omega Labs

on October 1, 2001 and spoke to a "George" at the 888 number." [Show her the timeline,

page 2, third from last entry]. Your attorney indicates that George told you that you needed

to correct your skin pH because of an ongoing 'neoplastic problem'? Do you still agree with

this testimony?" [ Probable answer: "yes" ]

  1. "Do you agree with the statement that George told you that your skin pH is too acidic?"

[ Probable answer: "yes"]

  1. "Is it possible that spoke both to George and to James Carr, also known as Greg Caton?"

[ Probable answer: "No" … truthful answer: "Yes"]

  1. "Isn't it true that you called the company to complain that your eschar wasn't healing fast enough and you asked how the healing process could be speed up?"

[ Probable answer: "No" … truthful answer: "Yes"]

  1. "This sounds like very strange advice. Did you really believe that your skin might be too acidic?"

[ Probable answer: … something to the effect that we should know what we're talking about ]

  1. "Is the George that you are referring to the same as the George Ackerson which your attorney, Joe Young, worked with in making its complaint to the U.S. Food & Administration against Greg Caton?"

[ don't know how she'll respond ]

7. "What communications have you had with George Ackerson? What has been the nature of

your communications with him? The content?"

[Go for each instance … the content in each instance … how communications took place

{phone, letter, fax, email, etc.}].

  1. "Did you tell any one at Alpha Omega Labs that concurrent with your use of Cansema Salve

that you were also using Dan Raber's bloodroot product?"

[ Probable answer: don't know how she'll respond … but if she says, "No" ask "Why not?"]

  1. "Are you aware that H3O is an acidic product?"

[ Probable answer: "yes"]

  1. "Then why would you order a product that is acidic, when being told that your skin is too acidic?"

[ YOU NEED TO PIN HER DOWN on her false statements. No one at Alpha Omega, even my old nemesis, George Ackerson, would have told her that her skin is too acidic.

That's just ridiculous. If she believed that her skin, as told to her was too acidic, why would she proceed to order both a highly acidic and a highly alkaline product? It makes no sense.

This is complete cognitive dissonance. GET TO THE ROOT OF IT … Her statements on this H3O / HRx purchase issue do not at all make any sense.]

Question Set #5: Objective: Sue Gilliatt and/or her attorneys gave information to the media that was reported in an article called "Herbal Nightmare" (Make sure you have this document handy when you do the deposition). The information they provided the media was chockful of completely fictitious information and the inference can be made if she provides information she knew, or should have known, that it is false to the media, why wouldn't she do it within this case?

  1. "Do you recognize this HealthScene Special Report, which is downloadable from the internet?"

[ probable answer: "Yes"]

  1. "Whose picture do you see on the first page of this Report?"

[ probable answer: "Mine"]

  1. "Whose name is printed underneath this picture?"

[ answer: "Sue Gilliatt"]

  1. "Are you familiar with the contents of this article?"

[if she says "no," give her time to read the article … which is just over two pages, in its entirety, so she can't come back and say she doesn't know what it says]

  1. "Were you interviewed specifically for this article?"

[ answer: "yes" … since she is quoted throughout the article, she's going to have major problems is she says, "No."]

  1. "This article states, 'The Armstrong forensic lab report revealed the Cansema salve had a high level of zinc chloride, acidic enough to burn skin.' So, it is your understanding then that zinc chloride is acidic -- is that what the lab told you?"

[ Probable answer: "yes"]

  1. "Do you know whether or not zinc chloride is a strong acid?"

[ Probable answer: "no"]

  1. "Do you know the pH of Cansema Salve? OR zinc chloride?"

[ Probable answer: "no"]

  1. "Can you give me a copy of the Armstrong forensic lab report?"

[ Where we're going with this: Zinc chloride (or ZnCl2) is not a true acid … and it is not corrosive to normal skin tissue. In fact, it has quite stable and has a mildly acidic pH of 5 -- more alkaline than tomato sauce. Although it is rated as mildly corrosive, it is nothing like they characterize in this interview. For complete data on ZnCl2, including its chemical characteristics, please see: ]

Possible follow-up question: "Did you know that zinc chloride has a pH of about 5 and that it is not considered an acidulent by any respectable chemist?"

[ True: zinc chloride has a pH of 5. … although it is mildly corrosive, it is only mildly acidic. It is a mild, not a strong, acid.]

  1. "Did Armstrong really tell you that Cansema was acidic enough to burn skin -- or did you make that up?"

[ Sounds nasty, I know … but she made it up and I'd like to see how she answers. Cansema Salve has a pH of about 6.5. It is barely acidic, but not caustically so. It's visually "corrosive" action against skin cancers is unrelated to pH. Completely and totally. These people are making things up as they go along and I want you to nail them on it.]

11. "How did Armstrong know that Cansema was acidic enough to burn skin? Did they

conduct any kind of skin sensitivity test? What did you pay them to do?"

[ We want to know what they paid the lab to tell them. I believe we can show that she is making up information that the lab supposedly TOLD her that she didn't even pay the lab to uncover in the first place. If you don't pay a lab to run skin sensitivity tests, no respectable lab is going to tell you that a given substance will "burn skin." Again --- you are showing that she makes things up as she goes along. She is an orchestrator of willful and malicious injury -- to MY reputation. ]

12. "It says here that 'You looked on the internet for conventional and non conventional

treatments' …. Can you name some of the treatments you looked at -- besides Alpha Omega

Labs and Dan Rabers' company --- any at all?"

[ My guess: She will have trouble giving you others. ]

  1. "Where did you get the information that zinc chloride was either 'very potent' or that it was

'toxic to cell structures' ? Who told you this?"

[ Scientifically, none of this is true at all -- so I want to know where she's getting it ]

  1. "It says here that 'What they found was shocking' and then it proceeds to mention the presence of zinc chloride. Exactly, what was it that was discovered to be shocking?

Are you saying it was shocking that these products contain zinc chloride?"

[ Truth: this is language that is inserted for dramatic effect. I believe she will get emotional and take this opportunity to attach some characteristic of the product and attribute "shocking" to it … let's see what is so "shocking" to her. No idea what she'll come up with. The only 'logical' response, given her pattern, is that it contained "zinc chloride" … and that's what I HOPES she says … let's continue … ]

  1. "Are you aware that Alpha Omega Labs' web pages, and their product brochure on Cansema, AND Dan Raber's web pages have always admitted the presence of zinc chloride as an ingredient in their respective products?"

[ Have no idea how this loony-bin will answer this one … will formulate more questions after I get an answer from her … It doesn't matter whether she says "yes," or "no," because if she says, "Yes," then she was totally lying in her media interview. If she says "No," show her the web pages, and then you can attack what OTHER instructions in Cansema use is she totally disregarding. Either way, she looks completely disingenuous. ]

  1. "Did you tell the press that you thought the makers of 'the products' confused zinc chloride with zinc oxide?"

[ probable answer: "yes" … otherwise, she is saying that the press lied or misquoted her]

  1. "Since you yourself are a registered nurse and a health care professional, on what basis do you make this formulary advise? What makes you think that both Alpha Omega Labs and Dan Raber are both simultaneously confused on this issue?"

[ I know the chemistry and the phytopharmacology. Using zinc oxide would do nothing for this product. Again -- she is just mouthing off with no science behind her. I want you to show the truth : that she doesn't know what she's talking about. What is her basis? I'll tell you: there is a product on the market that helps dry up balmy skin called "Skin Zinc." It contains zinc oxide. No escharotic skin product uses zinc oxide. Not a one. You would never put zinc oxide in an escharotic skin preparation or similar product to remove a skin cancer. If you "follow" this one you'll be able to show that she makes things up as she goes along without any basis in science or fact.]

  1. "Did you tell the media that hydrochloric acid is found in H3O?"

[ She will have to either say "Yes," or that "No… she was misquoted.]

  1. "Where did you get information that H3O contains hydrochloric acid?"

[ Don't know what she'll say … because, as with the other issues above, this IS a lie.]

  1. "Would it surprise you to hear that H3O contains no hydrochloric acid whatsoever?"

[ Don't know … truth: H3O, when analyzed shows has having only water and a residual level, from 7 - 9%, sulphuric acid … there is no hydrochloric acid … this is not a small difference]

  1. "It says here that 'a cache of weapons' was found on 'Caton's property, so he was jailed on charges of violating terms of his parole.' Did you say this?"

[ She probably say "yes" ]

22. "Where did you get information that Caton was on parole? Who or what told you this?"

[ I have NEVER been on parole. When this interview took place, I had last been on PROBATION in 1993 in relation to my 1989 conspiracy charge. Again -- it shows that she just makes things up as she goes along. Her goal was to 'tar and feather' me … the problem is that she was just committing one act of slander after another and this speaks to credibility.]

  1. "It says here that 'Some of the money from Alpha Omega Labs may be in numbered accounts in the Bahamas.' Did you actually say this during the interview?"

[ Probable answer: "yes."]

  1. "Where did you get information that Mr. Caton had numbered accounts in the Bahamas?

Who told you this?"

[ I didn't have ANY offshore accounts. The FDA thought so … and I want to find out who was feeding whom this fictitious information. In fact, the FDA is STILL convinced that I may have offshore accounts and they now want me to take a polygraph. My attitude is 'Let them knock themselves out.' Still --- I want to know where this fiction is coming from and who put it out. Did the FDA or someone else in the government tell Gilliatt and/or her attorney this? Or did they make it up and excite the salivary glands of the Fed? Or did the information come from George Ackerson? PLEASE PURSUE THIS VIGOROUSLY FOR ME. ]