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Dear Almitra,

Just to say thanks for your hints.

Best wishes,

Roberto

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Roberto J Martin Hurtado

Policy and Economics Unit - Environment Department - The World Bank

MSN MC5-511, 1818 H St NW, 20433 WashingtonDC

Phone + (001) 202 4731451 Fax + (001) 202 5221735

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Subject: waste management,

financial aspects

Dear Roberto CC Ramaswamy, Ramesh

Interesting project. Yes, that's the best you'll get, from me or anyone else: %

of municipal budget spent on SWM or % of cost recovered. The estimates you

quoted look about right to me. I do not open attachments and have no-one really

to send them on to, but I suggest one or two other methodologies, for which you

may get help from Cities Alliance or say the City Managers' Assn of Gujarat

(dont know their email) or all India Inst of Local Self-Govt:

Take a typical city's population. Guesstimate its Solid Waste generation (no

city weights it accurately, nor collects it all!). The city will give you its

budget spent on SWM, so you have a fugure of Rs/ton spent for that. This gives

you an approx per-capita cost. Then see the city's average per-capita property

tax collection, and the add-on % of it which is a "Conservancy Cess" (i.e. for

garbage collection and sanitation). The difference will give you a rough idea

of the subsidy, but qualitatively not too good. Of course the poor and homeless

in slums (between 10-25-55 or 60% of a city's population, as city size

increases) pay no official property tax or conservancy cess. This subsidy (for

a service that is often nonexistent for them) will show up in the overall

per-capita estimates.

I am sorry I have neither the time nor expertise to do the intensive digging

(even in my own voluminous files and case responses) required to give you a

better answer. But I am forwarding this to Mr Ramaswamy who has done in-depth

analysis of Bangalore budgets and may be able to help, and Mr Ramesh Ramanathan

who has worked on accounting for Bangalore city. Perhaps PAC may have some

data, or interest in this area if you seek a local project partner.

Best wishes,

Almitra

Mrs Almitra H Patel, Convener INTACH Waste Network and Member, Supreme Court

Committee on Solid Waste Management

50 Kothnur Village, Bagalur Road, Bangalore 560077

tel 0091-80-8465365 or 8465195, fax 8465195 with any luck,

otherwise c/o 0091-80-5483458 "Attn Mrs Patel 8465365" (nearest STD booth in

town)

E-mail : (opened weekly)

PLEASE AVOID SENDING ATTACHMENTS WITH EMAIL - PASTE THE MATTER ON THE EMAIL

ITSELF. THANKS.

>From: "Hanns-Andre Pitot"

>To: "Udo Theilen" , "Rien Boterman" , "Neena Gulabani" , "nadine dulac" ,

"Chris Furedy" , "anjana mehta" , "Almitra Patel"

>Subject: Fw: waste management, financial aspects

>Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:28:09 +0100

> > >From:

> > >I'm a research assistant at the Environment Department, World Bank. For a

> > >report on "Innovative financing for sustainable development", we would

> >like to

> > >perform a rough scoping of subsidies embedded in solid waste management

> >in

> > >developing countries. The (somehow simplistic) approach would be to

> >compare

> > >fees charged to cost of provision.

> > >So far, I've only been able to get general statements, such as "cost

> >recovery is

> > >less than 10% in many cases", or "cost of waste disposal amount to

> >between 30

> > >and 50% of municipal budgets". I'm exploring the path of asking waste

> >management

> > >experts for more specific figures (either official data or personal

> >estimates).

> > >Adrian Coad (SKAT) has suggested me to ask you to send out a general

> >request via

> > >your mailing list. I would appreciate if you could do so. The request

> >is

> > >attached. In addition, any other leads will be most welcome.

> > >Many thanks,

> > >Roberto Martin-Hurtado

> > > (See attached file: WB request for WEDC.doc)

> > >______

> > >Roberto J Martin-Hurtado

> > >Policy and Economics Unit - Environment Department - The World Bank

> > >MSN MC5-511, 1818 H St NW, 20433 WashingtonDC

> > >Phone + (001) 202 4731451 Fax + (001) 202 5221735

> > >Attachment Converted: "C:\pceudora\WB request for WEDC.doc