July 2011 doc.: IEEE 802.11-11/0837r7

IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs

March-May Teleconference Minutes
Date: 2011-07-01
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / email
Hitoshi Morioka / ROOT Inc. / 2-14-38 Tenjin, Chuo-ku, Fukuoka 810-0001 JAPAN / +81 92 771 7630 /

Tuesday May 17, 2011

9:00am EDT

1.  Attendee

1.1.  Marc Emmelmann (Fraunhofer FOKUS)

1.2.  Tom Siep (CSR)

1.3.  Hitoshi Morioka (ROOT)

1.4.  Dwight Smith (Motorola Mobility)

1.5.  Carl Kain (Noblis)

1.6.  Jihyun Lee (LG)

1.7.  Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.8.  Sungeun Jin (ETRI)

1.9.  Robert Moskowitz (Verizon Business)

1.10.  Akira Ohara (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

2.  Meeting call to order at 9:05am.

3.  Vice chair (Marc) reminder on meeting and patent policy.

4.  Agenda 11-11/831r0 was unanimously approved.

5.  July San Francisco meeting

5.1.  8 slots including 1 ad-hoc slot will be assigned.

6.  11-11/819r0 Text for Call for Technical Contributions by Tom Siep

6.1.  Marc: Is “July 1st” only for July presentation?

6.2.  Tom: Yes.

6.3.  Marc: We’d like to know who intend to contribute TGai.

6.4.  Straw Poll

6.4.1. Are you in favor of issuing the call for technical input?

6.4.2. Result: 8/0/1

6.5.  Reviced version will be uploaded as 819r1 by Tom.

7.  Plan for next teleconference

7.1.  Start discussion about evaluation methodology

7.2.  Any technical contributions

7.3.  Technical contributions should be based on the latest TGmb draft D8.01.

8.  Adjourn at 9:38am


Tuesday May 24, 2011

9:00am EDT

1.  Attendee

1.1.  Hiroshi Mano (ROOT)

1.2.  Tom Siep (CSR)

1.3.  Hitoshi Morioka (ROOT)

1.4.  Dwight Smith (Motorola Mobility)

1.5.  Carl Kain (Noblis)

1.6.  Jihyun Lee (LG)

1.7.  Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.8.  Robert Moskowitz (Verizon Business)

1.9.  Lee Armstrong (US DoT)

1.10.  Konstantinos Geirgantas (Helsinki Institute for Information Technology)

2.  Meeting call to order at 9:07am.

3.  Chair reminder on meeting and patent policy.

4.  Agenda 11-11/831r1 was unanimously approved.

5.  Marc doesn’t come. So his presentation 11-11/841r0 has been postponed to the next week.

6.  Adjourn at 9:31am


Tuesday May 31, 2011

9:00am EDT

1.  Attendee

1.1.  Hiroshi Mano (ROOT)

1.2.  Marc Emmelmann (fraunhofer FOKUS)

1.3.  Tom Siep (CSR)

1.4.  Hitoshi Morioka (ROOT)

1.5.  Dwight Smith (Motorola Mobility)

1.6.  Carl Kain (Noblis)

1.7.  Jihyun Lee (LG)

1.8.  Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.9.  Sunggeun Jin (ETRI)

1.10.  Akira Ohara (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.11.  Konstantinos Geirgantas (Helsinki Institute for Information Technology)

2.  Meeting call to order at 9:03am.

3.  Chair reminder on meeting and patent policy.

4.  Agenda 11-11/831r2 was unanimously approved.

5.  11-11/841r1 Verification of TGai Requirements by Marc

5.1.  Not uploaded at the time.

5.2.  It will be uploaded.

6.  Adjourn at 9:47am


Tuesday June 14, 2011

9:00am EDT

1.  Attendee

1.1.  Hiroshi Mano (ROOT)

1.2.  Marc Emmelmann (fraunhofer FOKUS)

1.3.  Tom Siep (CSR)

1.4.  Hitoshi Morioka (ROOT)

1.5.  Dwight Smith (Motorola Mobility)

1.6.  Carl Kain (Noblis)

1.7.  Jihyun Lee (LG)

1.8.  Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.9.  Sunggeun Jin (ETRI)

1.10.  Akira Ohara (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.11.  Lee Armstrong (US DoT)

2.  Meeting call to order at 9:02am.

3.  Chair reminder on meeting and patent policy.

4.  Agenda 11-11/831r3 was unanimously approved.

5.  Verification of TGai Requirements by Marc

5.1.  Not uploaded at the presentation time.

5.2.  “IP address assignment” should be changed to “upper layer setup”. (Hitoshi)

5.3.  Preamble length should be specified. (Hitoshi)

5.4.  “Synthetic scenario” should be changed to “Artificial scenario”. (Tom)

5.5.  It will be uploaded as xxxr0.

5.6.  Continue discussion about this document in next teleconference.

6.  Reminder: proposal submission deadline is 1st July.

7.  Adjourn at 9:35am


Tuesday June 21, 2011

9:00am EDT

1.  Attendee

1.1.  Hiroshi Mano (ROOT)

1.2.  Tom Siep (CSR)

1.3.  Hitoshi Morioka (ROOT)

1.4.  Dwight Smith (Motorola Mobility)

1.5.  Carl Kain (Noblis)

1.6.  Jihyun Lee (LG)

1.7.  Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.8.  Lee Armstrong (US DoT)

2.  Meeting call to order at 9:02am.

3.  Chair reminder on meeting and patent policy.

4.  Agenda 11-11/831r4

4.1.  Timeline reviewing has been added.

5.  Verification of TGai Requirements by Marc

5.1.  Marc cannot join this teleconference.

5.2.  He will upload revised version.

6.  Timeline

6.1.  8 slots in San Francisco session.

6.2.  Discuss and complete the evaluation methodology.

7.  Adjourn at 9:13am


Tuesday June 28, 2011

9:00am EDT

1.  Attendee

1.1.  Hiroshi Mano (ROOT)

1.2.  Tom Siep (CSR)

1.3.  Hitoshi Morioka (ROOT)

1.4.  Dwight Smith (Motorola Mobility)

1.5.  Carl Kain (Noblis)

1.6.  Jihyun Lee (LG)

1.7.  Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

2.  Meeting call to order at 9:08am.

3.  Chair reminder on meeting and patent policy.

4.  Agenda 11-11/831r5

4.1.  Power saving feature discussion has been added.

5.  Power saving feature by Tom

5.1.  In WFA, FILS is interested at the point of view of power saving.

5.2.  How FILS can contribute power saving.

5.3.  Low latency AKM is very interesting for power saving.

5.4.  NTT docomo made presentation about power saving in Singapore. As the result, power saving is out of scope of FILS. (Hiroshi)

5.5.  It may contibute to power saving. (Dwight)

5.6.  Not necessary. (Tom)

5.7.  Please invite a WFA person to San Francisco meeting for presentation about it. (Hiroshi)

5.8.  Yes, I ask him. (Tom)

6.  Verification of TGai Requirements by Marc

6.1.  Marc cannot join this teleconference.

6.2.  He will make a presentation in next week teleconference.

7.  Adjourn at 9:30am


Tuesday July 5, 2011

9:00am EDT

1.  Attendee

1.1.  Hiroshi Mano (ROOT)

1.2.  Marc Emmelmann (fraunhofer FOKUS)

1.3.  Tom Siep (CSR)

1.4.  Hitoshi Morioka (ROOT)

1.5.  Dwight Smith (Motorola Mobility)

1.6.  Carl Kain (Noblis)

1.7.  Jihyun Lee (LG)

1.8.  Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.9.  Sungeun Jin (ETRI)

1.10.  George Calcev (Huawei)

1.11.  Akira Ohara (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

2.  Meeting call to order at 9:03am.

3.  Chair reminder on meeting and patent policy.

4.  Agenda 11-11/831r6

4.1.  Unanimously approved.

5.  841r0 Verification of TGai Requirements by Marc

5.1.  Marc will upload the revised document as 841r1.

5.2.  Chair requests for comments about this document by the next teleconference or San Francisco session.

6.  Adjourn at 10:05am


Tuesday July 12, 2011

9:00am EDT

1.  Attendee

1.1.  Marc Emmelmann (fraunhofer FOKUS)

1.2.  Tom Siep (CSR)

1.3.  Hitoshi Morioka (ROOT)

1.4.  Dwight Smith (Motorola Mobility)

1.5.  Jihyun Lee (LG)

1.6.  Katsuo Yunoki (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

1.7.  Sungeun Jin (ETRI)

1.8.  Akira Ohara (KDDI R&D Laboratories)

2.  Meeting call to order at 9:04am.

3.  Vice chair reminder on meeting and patent policy.

4.  Agenda 11-11/831r7

4.1.  Unanimously approved.

5.  811r1 TGai Evaluation Methodology by Marc

5.1.  Discussion of “Robustness” criteria – general theoretical approach instead.

5.2.  Use case based performance (section 4.2) will remain a place-holder.

5.3.  Marc will upload the revised document as 811r2

5.4.  Tom will add introductory material as 811r3.

5.5.  Vice chair requests for comments about this document by San Francisco session.

6.  Adjourn at 9:46am

Submission page 9 Hitoshi Morioka, ROOT