IEEE 802.11 Interim Meeting Session #129

September 2011doc.: IEEE 802.11-11/1246r0

IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs

Minutes of the IEEE P802.11 Full Working Group
Date: 2011-11-19
Author(s):
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Stephen McCann / Research in Motion (RIM) UK Ltd / 200 Bath Road, Slough, Berkshire, SL1 3XE, UK / +44 1753 667099 /

IEEE 802.11 Interim Meeting – Session #129

Okinawa Conference Center, Okinawa, Japan

September 19th – 23th, 2011

IEEE 802 Wireless Opening Plenary, Monday, 19th September 2011

8:05802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.19, and 802.22 Chairs called the joint meeting to order (15-11-561-01). IEEE 802.11 attendance is included as Annex A

General announcements:

 Attendance will be collected via the IMAT

Straw Poll of new attendees: 17

8:19IEEE patent policy

802.15 WG chair read the IEEE-SA instructions for the WG chair and displayed the four slides explaining patent policy and informed the attendees that additional information could be found on the PatCom web site.

Chair asked participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard in the appropriate WG.

802.15 WG chair read IEEE anti-trust policy.

8:23Financial report by Jon Rosdahl, Clint Chaplin (11-11-1242-00, 15-11-0624-00)

 July 18, 2011 - $410,004.11

o IEEE Account: $340,322.79 + $276.90 = $340,599.69

o Face-to-Face: $48,868.76 + $20,535.66 = $69,404.42

 September 18, 2011 - $410,004.11

o IEEE Account: $340,599.69 + $247.24 - $18,515.00 = $322,331.93

o Face-to-Face: $69,404.42 = $69,404.42

 Okinawa

o Registration Income: $209,125

o Registrants307

o Meeting Expense Estimate: $272,570

o Surplus (Deficit)($22,669)

8:28Wireless announcements: (15-11-035-04)

Wireless Network Updates by Rick Alfvin

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8:30Review future sessions

 November 6-11, 2011, Hyatt Regency Atlanta, Atlanta, GA, USA

 January 15-20, 2012, Hyatt Regency, Jacksonville, Florida, USA

 March 11-16, 2012, Hilton Waikoloa Village, Big Island, HI, USA

 May 13-18, 2012, Hyatt Regency Atlanta, Atlanta, GA, USA

 July 15-20, 2012, Grand Hyatt Manchester, San Diego, CA, USA

 September 16-21, 2012, Hyatt Grand Champions, Palm Springs, CA, USA

 November 11-16, 2012, Grand Hyatt San Antonio, San Antonio, TX, USA

 Request for Straw poll on mandating 2 / 4 interims being outside of US

o 802.11 chair replied that a straw poll should be delayed until possible venues are available

8:25Task Group Updates

 Documents 11-11-1099, 11-11-1100, 11-11-1101 help describe 802.11

 802.11 by B Kramer (Marvell Semiconductor): 299 voters, 42 potential voters

TGmb- Revision

TGs - ESS Mesh Networking

TGaa - VIDEO TRANSPORT STREAMS

TGac - VHT L6

TGad - VHT60

TGae - QoS-MAN

TGaf- TVWS

TGah- S1G

TGai - FILS

802.15 by B Heile (211 voters, 19 nearly voters)

WNG: next generation

TG4e: MAC enhancements

TG4f: RFID applications

TG4g: SUN applications

TG4j: MBAN

TG4k: LECIM

TG4m: TVWS

TG6: BAN

SG-PSC

IG-HIP

802.18 Mike Lynch (9 voters)

 comment on Canadian TVWS regulation

802.19 Steve Shellhammer (53 voters)

 TVWS Coexistence: reviewing comments on draft and beginning resolutions

802.22 Mody (24 voters)

 working on recommended practice 802.22.2

 Enhanced MIB and Mgmt Plane 802.22a

 RASGCIM SG

8:50Joint meeting adjourned
IEEE 802.11 Opening Plenary, Monday 19th September 2011

Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell Semiconductor) opened the meeting at 09:00 Japan Standard Time (JST)

1st Vice-chair:Adrian StephensIntel

2nd Vice-chair:Jon RosdahlCSR

Secretary:Stephen McCannResearch in Motion (RIM) UK Ltd

There are 299 voting members of IEEE 802.11

There were 125 people in the room.

Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-11-1099r4)

1.1. Chair: Any modifications required at this moment?

1.2. No objection to the approval of the agenda

July 2011 Minutes (11-11-1004r1)

2.1. Review and approve joint minutes from the San Francisco, July 2011 meeting.

2.2. Any objection to approving the July 2011 minutes 11-11-1004r1 by unanimous consent

2.3. Moved Stephen McCann, 2nd: Jon Rosdahl

2.4. Following neither discussion nor dissent these minutes were approved by unanimous consent.

Notices

3.1. No photographs at this meeting and please turn your mobiles to vibrate.

Meeting Graphic

4.1. This is a summary of all room allocations for the week

Attendance

5.1. Welcome to the 2 new participants. There were 17 new participants for the earlier 802 wireless meeting.

Treasurers report (11-11-1242r1)

6.1. Vice-chair: This is a quick summary of the document which was presented earlier in the 802 wireless opening plenary.

6.2. There will be an update on this later in the week.

Call for essential Patents

7.1. The vice-chair read out the revised PatCom rules and then called for essential patents information, as shown by:

7.2.

7.3. There were no issues raised regarding the call for essential patents.

Operations Manual (11-09-0002r6)

8.1. Vice-chair: This is some early information about this document coming up for consideration during the Wednesday mid-week plenary

8.2. In addition the new 802 rules were updated at the July 2011 EC meeting. These are now available on the 802 website.

8.3. Chair: We’ll have a 25 minute slot on Wednesday to discuss the operations manual in more detail.

Status of all groups (11-11-1100r1)

9.1. Officer Updates (slide #5)

9.1.1. Please can we welcome Joseph Ming as the new TGah secretary.

9.1.2. There are several other people who cannot attend this meeting so there are some substitutes.

9.1.3. TGs has now finished its work and indeed published. Therefore there is no TGs meeting this week.

9.1.4. TGaa has no chair and so David Hunter will chair their session this week.

9.1.5. JTC1 also has no chair and so the IEEE 802.11 WG chair will run that session.

9.1.6. Please note that some groups are missing secretaries and volunteers are very welcome.

9.2. Ad Hoc groups

9.2.1. We have decided that all non-draft generating groups will now be called “Standing Committees”. This will affect JTC1, Regulatory and SmartGrid.

Announcements (11-11-1101r1)

10.1. LoA database

10.1.1. Please note that an update has been made to this database.

10.2. Buses

10.2.1. Please note that there are shuttle buses from this convention centre to downtown Naha,

10.2.2. In addition, if you require a bus ride to the airport on Friday, please can you email (Hiroshi) Mano-san.

10.3. Joint meetings

10.3.1. There are none scheduled for this meeting

10.4. New PARS

10.4.1. All the July 2011 PARs approved by the EC have now been approved by NesCom.

10.4.2. There were two withdrawals including IEEE 802.23 and also IEEE 802.1Qbh Bridge Port Extensions.

10.4.3. P802 overview and architecture PAR has been extended until December 2013

10.4.4. P802.1aq PAR also extended until December 2012

10.5. IEEE 802.18

10.5.1. Please note their room assignments. They will start at 13:30 today with looking at the new Canadian rules on TVWS which will have some interest to IEEE 802.11.

10.6. IEEE 802.19

10.6.1. This was introduced at the Wireless 802 meeting earlier today

10.7. IEEE 802.22

10.7.1. Again their agenda was introduced earlier.

10.8. IEEE 802.23

10.8.1. Not more meetings for this group

10.9. November 2011 meeting

10.9.1. Please note the early-bird cut-off date for this meeting.

10.10. Room Assignments

10.10.1. Please note that there have been some room changes and please lookout for changes at the registration desk.

10.10.2. Please do not move the tables, as they have had power strips retrofitted to them.

10.11. Editor’s meeting

10.11.1. Please note the start will be at 7.15am to give time to walk here.

10.12. Breakfast

10.12.1. This is provided within the hotels, not in the convention center.

10.13. Tuesday Social

10.13.1. Please note this is on Tuesday and is in the Laguna Hotel some 10 minutes walk from the convention center.

10.14. Monday Tutorials

10.14.1. These will be in this room this evening and will be about various SmartGrid topics.

10.15. Other topics

10.15.1. Please see slide #21 for some other information.

Voting status, attendance, meeting network & documentation (11-11-0051r2)

11.1. This document provides all the information about attendance, documentation and other news about the group.

11.2. The current member situation is: 111 aspirants, 43 non-voters, 299 voters

11.3. Please note that there is a new system called “ePoll” that is being tested. It may take over some of the working group ballots (e.g. letter ballots) at some later point.

Publicity & timelines

12.1. 11s and 11z press releases

12.1.1. The 11z press release was approved by the EC in July 2011, although it’s not known whether IEEE-SA actually sent this out. An update will be provided on Wednesday.

12.1.2. Regarding the 11s press release, an update will also be provided on Wednesday.

12.2. Timelines

12.2.1. No recent changes, but please can all chairs send the secretary any required updates prior to the Thursday evening CAC meeting.

Group Summaries (11-11-110r1)
Chair: Please look at these slides which show how all the current projects fit within the proposed IEEE 802.11-2012 revision.
Editor’s meeting
Tomorrow morning at 7.15am, including the ANA status, style guides and numbering situation.
Extra notes for the following groups were made:
WNG
Two presentations are currently scheduled.
ARC Standing Committee
One meeting this week, chaired by Mark Hamilton
TGmb
They will review the latest sponsor ballot. Draft 10.0 includes the 11s roll-up.
TGs
This project has now been completed. Thanks to all the officers who have helped with the longest running project within IEEE 802.11. Dee, Guido and Donald have all helped immensely with this project. The document was published on 10th September 2011 and now you can obtain a free copy in the member’s area. There shall be some awards during the Atlanta November 2011 meeting.
TGaa
David Hunter will run this group this week at PM1 today. They are currently in sponsor ballot which closes on October 12th 2011.
TGac and TGaf held ad-hocs last week in South Korea.
Recent Letter and Sponsor Ballots (slide #28)
There were 7 ballots completed since the July 2011 meeting.

Any Other Business

14.1. Vice-chair: regarding the Friday airport bus, I have now sent an email to the IEEE 802.11 reflector. Please can you follow this information.

14.2. How many people want to take the 12:55pm flight from Naha to Narita? The bus should leave around 11:45am.

14.3. Chair: I think we should finish the closing plenary around 11.00am, so this should not be a problem. Let’s ask for a straw poll count on Wednesday as I’ll have a better idea of how long the Friday closing plenary will last.

Recess

15.1. Meeting recessed at 10:02 JST.

Wednesday, 21st September 2011

IEEE 802.11 Mid Week Plenary

Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell) opened the meeting at 10:30 JST.

144 people present.

Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-11-1099r5)

16.1. Chair: There are some changes required to the agenda, resolving typos and some room changes.

16.2. Chair: Are there any more adjustments required?

16.3. Any objection to accepting the changes to the agenda?

16.4. No objection, so moved and approved.

Call for Essential Patents

17.1. Chair: please can I remind you about Letters of Assurance (LoA) that are required for the IEEE-SA.

17.2. Also the Call for essential patents from Monday still applies

17.3. Comment: There was a statement from Qualcomm in TGai regarding a future LoA submission.

18.1. Reminder about 19.30 Japan Time meeting on Thursday

Other Announcements

19.1. Social: There is no social tonight, as it was last night.

19.2. No questions

Liaisons

20.1. IEEE 802.18 : Radio Regulatory Tag (11-11-1295r0)

20.1.1. Reviewing the Canadian consultation on TV White Spaces use. A response document is being produced.

20.1.2. No questions

20.2. IEEE 802.19 : Co-existence Working Group (11-11-1304r0)

20.2.1. All the work is currently occurring in 802.19.1

20.2.2. There is now an initial document 802.19.1 Draft 0.0

20.2.3. Question (Q): Now that they have a draft. Do we have an opportunity to comment on it from IEEE 802.11?

20.2.4. Answer(A): I believe that this is an informal review, so I don’t think they are expecting comments from IEEE 802.11?

20.2.5. Chair: Does anyone want to participate in this?

20.2.6. No response

20.2.7. Q: What impact will this draft have on the work in TGaf?

20.2.8. A: There are ongoing discussions between 802.19 and TGaf. Perhaps have a look at 11-11-1272r0 and 11-11-1274r0 for some more detail.

20.2.9. Chair: ok, but these documents are exclusive to TGaf?

20.2.10. Q: So, should we expect a co-existence assurance from 802.19?

20.2.11. A: No, as they are not defining a new physical (PHY) layer.

20.2.12. Comment (C): These documents may be useful for 802.19.

20.3. Bluetooth SIG

20.3.1. No update this time

20.4. Wi-Fi alliance (WFA)

20.4.1. There have been no major updates in the WFA since the last report, as WFA has not met since the IEEE 802.11 July meeting.

20.4.2. Certifications: security technical, TDLS

20.4.3. Technical Group: 60 GHz, VHT5, Hotspot 2.0

20.4.4. Various other non-IEEE 802.11 related activities as well.

20.4.5. Newer groups: SmartGrid, Power Conservation and TVWS

20.4.6. Next face to face meeting is week of October 17th 2011 in Taipei, Taiwan.

20.4.7. No questions.

20.5. IETF (11-11-1308r0)

20.5.1. There have been some activities since the last IEEE 802.11 meeting.

20.5.2. Activities have occurred in the following groups “paws” regarding TV White Spaces.

20.5.3. Next meeting is in November 2011 in Taipei, Taiwan.

20.5.4. No questions

20.6. 3GPP

20.6.1. No update this time

20.7. SC 6 (11-11-1101r2)

20.7.1. Update on SC 6 activities

20.7.2. CRM = comment resolution meeting

20.7.3. Q: The spring 2012 SC6 meeting is at the same time as the next Wi-Fi Alliance meeting. Is there any chance of moving this meeting?

20.7.4. A: I have spoken to the host and they will not be able to move the date.

20.7.5. Chair: I have also spoken to the Wi-Fi Alliance chair and they are also unable to move their meeting, so there is still a collision.

Wednesday tutorial (11-11-1101r2)

21.1. Chair: I would just like to mention that there is still a tutorial today.

21.2. C: There is a document that has been uploaded on the server 11-11-1305r0 and also 11-11-1243r1.

IEEE 802.11s press release (11-11-0984r8)

22.1. Regarding the 11s press release, an update has just been received from Shaung Yu, IEEE-SA marketing manager correcting the boiler plate text. This will be updated on the server as document 11-11-0984r9.

22.2. No questions

Operations Manual (OM) (11-09-0002r7)

23.1. Vice-chair: There have been some updates to this document.

23.2. Initially there is a new section regarding the mandatory draft review (MDR) that all our drafts have to go through.

23.3. The other new section discusses the types of balloting and votes that are used in IEEE 802.11.

23.4. On Friday, I’ll bring document 11-09-0002r8 for approval at the closing plenary.

23.5. No questions

TGad re-circulation ballot

24.1. Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from LB 183 on P802.11ad D4.0 as contained in document 11/1113r5, Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 5.0 incorporating these resolutions and, Approve a 15 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11ad D5.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?”

24.1.1. Moved by Eldad Perahia on behalf of TGad

24.1.2. [TGad vote: Moved: Carlos Cordeiro, Seconded: James Yee, Result: 17-3-5]

24.1.3. For: 70, Against: 8, Abstain: 1 (Motion passes 89.74%)

Room Changes

25.1. TGad chair: I would like to adjourn TGad.

25.2. Chair: Is there any objection to adjourning TGad for the week and releasing its rooms.

25.3. TGad releases the rest of its slots.

25.4. TGmb requests Thurs AM2 and PM2

25.5. Chair: Is there any objection to these changes?

25.6. No objection

25.7. Chair: so the allocated rooms are TGmb AM2 = “waiting room 0”, PM2 = “make up 1”

25.8. TGaf chair: I’ve also asked Arinex to change the TGaf room A2 to room A1 on Thursday? This is in progress and I’ll send out an email once this happens.

25.9. TGac chair: TGac also have room A1 at one of these times.

25.10. Chair: Therefore TGaf can only have A1 on Thursday AM1

Any Other Business

26.1. Meeting recessed at 11:30 JST.

Friday, 23rd September 2011

IEEE 802.11 Closing Plenary

Call to order at 08:00 JST by Bruce Kraemer (Marvell Semiconductor).

46 people present in the room.

Agenda (11-11-1099r7)

27.1. Chair: There have been some changes due to the addition of motions etc.

27.2. Any objection to adopting the changes to the agenda.

27.3. None seen

Call for Essential Patents

28.1. Call for Essential Patents and Letters of Assurance (LoA)

28.2. No questions

Announcements (11-11-1101r4)

29.1. Chair’s minutes, reports and web pages

29.1.1. Please can you send these to the secretary

29.1.2. Please be aware of the Chair’s schedule for the chair’s committee meetings (CAC)

29.2. November 2011 Meeting (Atlanta)

29.2.1. Chair: please note that room allocation plan is being arranged for the November 2011 meeting and this will be distributed soon. The schedule will be tight, so please can all the chairs send in their requests

29.2.2. Vice-chair: Please note the REG/TGai joint session has not been highlighted correctly on the draft plan and will be updated shortly.

29.2.3. Chair: Please can the chairs remember to update their web pages.

29.3. Letters of Assurance (LoA) (slide #34)

29.3.1. Chair: please remember about the LoA requirements. There have been 19 LoAs received so far in 2011.

29.4. IEEE Shop

29.4.1. Chair: There has been a cleanup of drafts available in the shop, as shown in the slide. Note, that 11.2 refers to the IEEE 802.11T draft document that is archived.

29.4.2. The 11s version is actually 12.0, but that will disappear as its now been published.

29.4.3. The shop will now point you to the free “Get 802” web site, where documents are freely available 6 months after publication.

29.4.4. There should be the addition of 11aa and 11ae shortly.

29.5. ISO SC6 (slide #37)

29.5.1. Chair: we are also continuing to send our new drafts to ISO SC6.

29.6. Tutorials in November 2011

29.6.1. Chair: there is one tutorial request at the moment about an update of SmartGrid activities.

Meeting Location

30.1. Chair: I would like to mention all the hard work from Mano-san.

30.2. C: Also thanks to one of our members for organizing the bus today.

30.3. Chair: Can I have a show of hand to see who is in favor of returning to this location again?

30.4. For: 16, Against: 11

Documentation & Attendance (11-11-1342r1)

31.1. Vice-chair: The system appeared to have run smoothly this week.

31.2. The presentation also shows the attendance breakdown.

31.3. C: thank you for this information, it’s very interesting to know where the main interests are.

WG Reports

32.1. Publicity

32.1.1. Secretary: This week there was just the 802.11s press release as mentioned on Wednesday, now updated as 11-11-0984r9.

32.1.2. No questions.

32.2. Timelines

32.2.1. Secretary: updates to the TGaf and TGai timelines have been suggested by those groups. The web timeline chart will be updated either later today or over the weekend.