June 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/2038r2
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2007-06-26
Author(s):
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Peter Ecclesine / Cisco Systems / 170 W. Tasman Dr.
MS SJ-10-5
San Jose, CA 95134-1706 / +1-408-527-0815 /
Minutes from June 26th 2007 TGy Teleconference Call
Agenda:
Preliminary26 June Agenda:
1) Roll call
2) Approval of agenda
3) "Are you aware of, and understand the IEEE patent policy",
if not "Refer the correct section or IEEE Patcom URL"
http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
4) Review Monteal minutes, 07/0783r1, and 5 June teleconf minutes, 07/1974r0
5) Review of comment validity rules
6) Discussion of LB-94-104 Comment spreadsheet 07/0602r7, and submissions 07/0603r0, 07/06783r2, 07/0674r3 and 07/0801r1
7) Discussion of LB-94-104-106 Comment spreadsheet, LB106 comments, 07/2019r0, P802.11y D3.0 (07/1971r0 is redline doc)
8) Plans to work at San Francisco session and after San Francisco
9) Any other discussion – nextteleconf3 July,13:00 ET for up to two hours
10) Adjourn at or before15:00 ET
Proceedings:
§ Chair calls telecon to order 13:03 ET
§ Roll call – Dan Lubar (Relay Services), Eldad Perahia (Intel), Peter Ecclesine (Cisco), Bruce Kraemer, Marvell, Rich Kennedy (ETS-Lindgren), Jim Raab (Dell), Doug Chen (Cisco) and Scott Blue (In Motion Technology)
§ Chair reviews proposed telecon Agenda and asks for approval of same
§ Hearing no objections, the telecon agenda is approved
§ Chair reads IEEE patent policy statement (Patcom Statement)
§ Chair asks: "Are you aware of, and understand the IEEE patent policy? If not refer the correct section or IEEE Patcom URL: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt ”
§ Chair asks: “..does anyone not understand the IEEE patent policy as read?" No reply is heard
§ Chair asks: “Are there matters that the WG chair needs to be informed of?” No reply is heard
§ Chair asks: “Are there matters arising from the minutes of the Montreal meeting?” No reply is heard
§ Chair asks: “Is there an objection to approving the minutes from the Montreal meeting?” No reply is heard
§ Chair notes that there is an error in Dan Lubar’s affiliation in the June 5th minutes, and states it will get corrected if the minutes are revised. Chair asks “Is there an objection to approving the minutes of the June 5th teleconference?” No reply is heard.
§ Web conference http://meetingplace.cisco.com worked, sharing views of files being discussed.
Discussion of IEEE SA rules for recirculation ballot comments
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual 5.4.3.2
http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect5.html#5.3
During a recirculation ballot, balloting group members shall have an opportunity to change their previously cast ballots. A change to "do not approve," which is submitted with comments, shall be based only on the changed portions of the balloted document, clauses affected by the changes, or portions of the balloted document that are the subject of the unresolved negative votes. If a change to "do not approve" is based solely on comments concerning previously approved portions of the balloted document, the balloter shall be informed that the comments are not based on the changed portion of the balloted document and, therefore, those comments may not be addressed in the current ballot and may be considered for a future revision of the standard. If the balloter does not agree to change the negative ballot, the ballot shall be recorded as an unresolved negative without comment.
Discussion of Editorial vs Technical comments and their resolution.
In the end, the comment resolution group has to approve all changes, so it does not matter whether the editor or someone else proposes them.
Chair asks “Do we all agree that the editor will review all Editorial comments, prepare a submission and make recommendations for their resolution?” No dissent was heard.
Mentioned LB104 submissions 07/0674r4 Editorial comments and 07/0673r3 Non-editorial comments, with Chair stating that similar submissions will be created to resolve LB106 comments.
Discussion of 802.11 P&P 07/0360r3 section 6.4 Voting Rights Dismissal
Chair showed the text from the 802.11 P&P, stating each member must return mandatory letter ballots, or lose their voting rights.
Discussion of LB-94-104-106 Comment spreadsheet, comments, 07/2019r0
Showed all outstanding Required Comments from No Voters on LB 94-104-106 sheet, Comment Resolution column has DCN of approved resolution for each comment.
We went clause by clause through all seventy seven LB106 comments received.
Bjorn Bjerke, Brian Hart, Eldad Perahia and Vinko Erceg volunteered to review ECSA comments 2002, 2075, 2076, 2077 and 2078 and PHY comments 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 and 2071. They may discuss them in the next TGn Coex teleconference, and may have a submission before the July 3rd teleconference.
Chair intends to write a submission responding to comments 2052 and 2061 (11.14 general rewrite), and will work with Scott Blue on changes to Clause 5 describing Enablement, and may have a submission before the July 3rd teleconference.
Chair or Editor will write submissions covering all other comments.
Discussion of schedule through San Francisco.
TGy has teleconferences scheduled for July 3rd and July 10th leading up to San Francisco. At San Francisco TGy has Tuesday AM1 timeslot and Thursday PM2 timeslot. We will use the Tuesday timeslot to look at LB106, LB104 and LB94 results, submissions addressing comments, and hopefully in the Thursday PM2 timeslot, make motions to ask the WG to approve using Procedure 20 Conditional Approval to go to Sponsor Ballot, and hold another recirculation letter ballot after San Francisco.
Chair asked if there is objection to adjourning at 14:23 ET
No discussion, we stand adjourned.
References:
FCC 05-56 ( http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf )
FCC 07-99 ( http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-99A1.pdf )
IEEE 802.11 Drafts (in IEEE 802.11 Member Area)
802.11-2007
P802.11k-D7.0
P802.11n-D2.02
P802.11r-D6.0
P802.11y-D3.00.pdf, 07/1971r0 TGy redline between draft 3.0 and 2.0
TGy Reference Docs: (in ftp.802wirelessworld.com)
11-06-0571-00-000y-cbp-tg-telecon-minutes-19-april.doc
11-06-0607-00-000y-TGy-telecon-minutes-3May.doc
11-06-0668-01-000y-3650-3700-mhz-fcc-action.ppt
11-06-0680-01-000y-may-chairs-report.ppt
11-06-0740-00-000y-joint-tgy-rr-tag-may-minutes.doc
11-06-0855-03-000y-Annex-and-J-3650-MHz-band.doc
11-06-0863-02-000y-tgy-june-14th-2006-conference-call-minutes.doc
11-06-0864-04-000y-3650-mhz-mobile-service-enablement.doc
11-06-0867-02-000y-references-mobile-service-enablement.doc
11-06-0873-00-000y-tgy-june-28th-2006-conference-call-minutes.doc
11-06-0922-00-000y-tgy-july-11th-2006-conference-call-minutes.doc
11-06-0955-03-000y-ofdm-phy-3650-mhz-band.doc
11-06-1023-01-000y-proposal-tgy.ppt
11-06-1024-02-000y-tgy-july-chairs-report.ppt
11-06-1120-00-000y-Minutes-from-San-Diego-Plenary-2006.doc
11-06-1374-00-000y-aug15th-and-aug29th-2006-conference-call-minutes.doc
11-06-1427-00-000y-sept12th-2006-conference-call-minutes.doc
11-06-1432-01-000y-extended-channel-switch-announement-normative-text.doc
11-06-1433-00-000y-extended-channel-switch-announement-presentation.ppt
11-06-1466-01-000y-TGy-September-chairs-report.ppt
11-06-1536-00-000y-proprosed-draft-revision.doc
11-06-1537-00-000y-melbourne-minutes-september.doc
11-06-1561-00-000y-tgy-sept-26th-2006-conference-call-minutes.doc
11-06-1609-04-000y-tgy-internal-review-comment-submissions.xls
11-06-1830-00-000y-dse-in-licensed-band-operations.doc
11-06-1675-02-000y-tgy-November-chairs-report-ppt.ppt (from Dallas Plenary)
11-06-1865-00-000y-tgy-brief-intro-to-tgy.doc
11-06-1871-00-000y-TGy-2006-Dallas-Plenary-Minutes.doc
11-06-1934-05-000n-tgn-opening-report-london-jan-07
11-07-0008-09-000y-tgy-lb94-comment-spreadsheet
11-07-0098-03-000y-tgy-january-chairs-report
11-07-0121-00-000y-tgy-meeting-minutes-from-jan-2007-london-interim-session
11-07-0224-00-000y-TGy-Jan-30th-Telecon-Minutes.doc
11-07-0245-02-000y-TGy-LB94-7-10-11-Submission.doc
11-07-0251-00-000y-TGy-February-13th-Telecon-Minutes.doc
11-07-0270-00-000y-TGy-LB94-3-4-5-6-9.8-Submission.doc
11-07-0271-01-000y-11-07-0271-00-000y-TGy-LB94-a-d-i-j-submission-doc.doc
11-07-0272-00-000y-phy-comments.doc
11-07-0282-00-000y-TGy-LB94-17-etc-Submission.doc
11-07-0291-00-0007-TGy-February-27-telecon-minutes.doc
11-07-0373-01-000y-tgy-march-opening-report
11-07-0392-00-000y-tgy-redline-between-draft-d1-0-and-d1-1
11-07-0395-00-000y-tgy-meeting-minutes-mar-2007-orlando-plenary
11-07-0401-03-000y-long-slottime-option-rtscts-procedure
11-07-0473-00-000y-tgy-lb94-submission-editors-resolutions
11-07-0479-00-000y-tgy-redline-between-d1-0-and-d1-2
11-07-0602-06-000y-d2-comments
11-07-0603-01-000y-lb104-dse-reporting-cid-1093
11-07-0673-03-000y-lb104-non-editorial-comments
11-07-0674-04-000y-lb104-editorial-comments-submission
11-07-0679-04-000y-tgy-may-opening-report
11-07-0783-01-000y-meeting-minutes-may-2007-montreal-interim
11-07-0801-01-000y-3-and-11-14-submission
11-07-0821-00-000y-tgy-may-closing-report
11-07-1974-01-000y-tgy-june-5th-telecon-minutes.doc
11-07-2038-00-000y-tgy-june-26th-telecon-minutes.doc
Acronyms/Abbreviations
CBP – Contention-Based Protocol
CCA – Clear Channel Assessment
CSA – Channel Switch Announcement
CSMA/CD – Carrier Sense Multiple Access/Collision Detect
DFS – Dynamic Frequency Selection
DSE – dependent station enablement
E-CSA – Extended Channel Switch Announcement
ED – Energy Detect
LCI – Location Configuration Information
PICS – Protocol Implementation Conformance Statement
STA – Station
TPC – Transmit Power Control
Submission page 1 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems