Together for Vanier
Working Group on Drugs and Prostitution
Tuesday, October 30th, 2007 - 5:30 to 7:30 pm
City Church – 155 Carillon Street
Draft Agenda
1. Welcome and Introductions
Nancy Welcomed everyone and introductions were done from each participant
2. Approval of the Agenda
Agenda was approved with additions. Foyer Fatima surroundings-security
3. Approval of Past Minutes
Minutes were approved by members
4. Committee Objectives
a) Micro-neighbourhood level organizing
Andrew explained the procedure for micro-neighbourhood, a street by street then a sector by sector approach (i.e Neighbourhood Watch like on Emond Street) – Residents to contact Marianne at 236-1222 ext. 5823 for more information
CSC Vanier to hire a coordinator- some of his responsibilities will be:
· Meet each residents get to know their needs
· Help them organize street or community fairs, Block Parties-way to meet your neighbours
· Be available for people of the community
· Give residents the information they need
· Need to break down the isolation and build a stronger neighbourhood
Discussion:
· Marilyn Hart said that there is already an informal street network (South of Beechwood Community Association-SOBE)
· One participant said she sits on her porch for 20 minutes a day and the Sex Trade Workers don’t come around no more, they don’t like to be identified-the more you stay outside the more they will stay away. Say Hi to your people when walking
· A Landlord school would be a good idea for Vanier landlords-a lot of absentee landlords
· A Drug Treatment Centre is needed-to be discussed at next meeting
· Elizabeth-Fry Society: Sex Trade Workers are your neighbours, they belong to the community like any other resident– there is different kind-Specifics about their behaviour (i.e crack) and it leads to a level of violence-They are sensitive about their needs-E. Fry is ready to work with community members
· Residents don’t want them in the neighbourhood
· Residents should show less respect for the Sex Trade Workers
· If you get a Drug Treatment Centre, the John’s and pimps will be around because the clients are vulnerable people
· Sex Trade Workers will go where the drugs are
· People to gather together on street and walk or talk and the dealers will be intimidated
Is there guidelines for Landlords-application forms?
-If your tenant is on Ontario Works you can communicate with their social worker
-Marianne (OPS) said there is 2 things a landlord can do to check new tenants:
1. Criminal Check: Go to Police station and have a criminal check on the person (would cost the landlord)
2. Agent Status: letter signed by landlord that gives the authority to the police to remove the people on their property without having the landlord present
*Residents to contact Community Police Marianne at 236-1222 ext. 5823 for more information
b) A Property by Property approach
· Problem address Task Force was created from Councillor Bédard’s office
· Stakeholders get together and go after the problem addresses (Fire, By-Law, Public Health, Police, Waste Management-They go after the landlords to repair certain problems
· Landlords and Tenants are uncomfortable having the Task Force around
· People need to report the problem addresses (broken porches, yards not being cleaned, etc)
· Crack houses take a long time to close down
c) The need for a Neighbourhood Community Association
· Vanier has a history of being a small community
· Gap in community building
· Community Association to report back to Council-more power
· Tools: Neighbourhood Watch, Block Parties, (i.e. Tea or walk with neighbours)
· Brings community members together
· Manual on how to set up a Community Association-George Bédard’s office - 580-2482
· Councillor’s office willing to facilitate meetings
· Marilyn Hart said that “South of Beechwood Community Association- SOBE) exists already-John Nolan is the president-has been existing for 3 ½ years-have bylaws-not registered with City of Ottawa-why re-invent the wheel when there is already an Association existing. We can learn from the existing association.
· Michael Horne thanked “City Church” for hosting tonight’s meting and said that people need tools and education. The residents are also in need of community changes.
· Lise Couture said that they closed a crack house on Park Street. Neighbours got together
d) Services and outreach for people with addictions in Vanier
· If you get a Drug Treatment Centre, the John’s and pimps will be around because the clients are vulnerable people
· Need a champion for a Drug Treatment Centre
· Drug Treatment Centre- To be brought forward to another meeting
· Needs political lobbying
e) Foyer Fatima surroundings-security
· Residents from Foyer Fatima (corner of Bradley and Montfort) are tired of having garbage in front of their building.
· They have been calling Ottawa Community Housing and they come the next day.
· Residents are scared to go out at night because of the loitering and noise and people hanging around at night.
· They should fill out an agent status and call OCH to come and install camera’s
· Franceska to contact Ottawa Community Housing and get the reports and see what else can be done for the seniors
Discussion:
· Marilyn Hart said that there is already an informal street network (South of Beechwood Community Association-SOBE)
· One participant said she sits on her porch for 20 minutes a day and the Sex Trade Workers don’t come around no more, they don’t like to be identified- the more you stay outside the more they will stay away. Say Hi to your people when walking
· A Landlord school would be a good idea for Vanier landlords-a lot of absentee landlords
· A Drug Treatment Centre is needed-to be discussed at next meeting
· Elizabeth-Fry Society: Sex Trade Workers are your neighbours, they belong to the community like any other resident– there is different kind-Specifics about their behaviour (i.e crack, condoms on grounds, needles in playgrounds) and it leads to a level of violence-They are sensitive about their needs-E. Fry is ready to work with community members
· Need more safe needle disposals in Vanier
· Message from Dr. Salisbury from Public Health:
o Black boxes-need some in Vanier areas
o By-law officers have training and supplies to pick-up needles-residents to call 311 for pick-up
· Residents don’t want them in the neighbourhood
· Residents should show less respect for the Sex Trade Workers
· The girls will go where the drugs are
Is there guidelines for Landlords-application forms?
· If your tenant is on Ontario Works you can communicate with their social worker
· Marianne (OPS) said there is 2 things a landlord can do to check new tenants:
Criminal Check: Go to Police station and have a criminal check on the person (would cost the landlord)
Agent Status: letter signed by landlord that gives the authority to the police to remove the people on their property without having the landlord present
*Residents to contact Community Police Marianne at 236-1222 ext. 5823 for more information
· Inspector Alain Bernard explained a few items regarding Police issues:
o A drug bust was made recently and they arrested 30 people- 38 years of age was the average age
o There is 2 sides to every newspaper article
o Reporting is important-people are afraid to call-Crime Stoppers is anonymous-contact community Police-Reporting tips has numbers for residents to call.
o After a lot of calls, police will follow up
o Street Level Unit in downtown area, starting the 3rd week of November
o Neighbourhood Watch is a community taking back their neighbourhood
o Police need grounds before they arrest someone-need to put all the pieces together to take down a crack house
o Community is feeding the police information-good
o Need more information sessions for residents-(Police and Together for Vanier/Ensemble pour Vanier groups to work together)
o Picked up a women recently-she was ready to clean-up but there was no place to send her
· Jina Rodas-Wright from E-Fry said that they are sending clients to Thunder Bay-no facilities in Ottawa-takes time-a lot of paperwork-Clients could go to Grand Valley Institute but its very expensive-they are being sent to OCDC
· Problem properties are confidential-Residents can call George Bédard’s office at 580-2482 or e-mail to
· Marianne-Community Police:
o If you clean up the drugs, you’ll solve some of the Sex Trade Workers problems
o Crack sells from $2.00 to $10.00
o Need to catch them with drugs on hand to charge-Most of the time they swallow the crack before the police catches them
· Sex Trade Workers move from one place to another-one of them moved 4 times without paying rent-she was in the paper this week.
· Residents reporting then they move to another location
· How do we change their behaviours?
· No laws for standing on corner, it’s the soliciting that is illegal
· Drug treatment is needed more than once, just like trying to quit to smoke, you try and try again until you quit.
· Make the residents safe, have laws and police to implement them
· Prosecutor, judges need to attend the meetings
· Elizabeth Fry is an area of resources and referrals for Sex Trade Workers
5. Next steps and Committee Chair
· Group not ready to have a Committee chair- brought forward to another meeting
6. Safer Communities and Neighbourhoods Legislation
· Crack houses take a long time to close down-Police can only do so much
· Legislation will make it easier on the Police to close down crack houses
7. Next Meeting
Wednesday, November 28th, 2007-5:30 to 7:30
City Church-155 Carillon St. at Durocher. There is parking at the back (on Ethel St) as well as along the side of the building, and on the street.
Working group for Drugs & ProstitutionTuesday, October 30th-5:30 to 7:30
City Church-155 Carillon
Name/Nom / Telephone/telephone /E-Mail/Courriel
/Present
/ Allen, Marianne / 744-8259 / 1/ Anderson, Roy / 747-9687 / 1
/ Augstman, Ashley / 613-237-7427 ext. 204 / / 0
4. / Bealle, Fred / 613-842-3367 / / 1
5. / Bealle, Mireille / 613-842-3367 / / 1
6. / Bélanger, Mauril / 613-992-4766 / / 0
7. / Bernard, Alain / 613-236-1222 ext. 5232 / / 1
8. / Berthelet, Hélène / / 0
9. / Bonenfant, Yvette / 842-4462 / 1
10. / Branco, Jose / 741-1162 / / 1
11. / Coutu, Diane / 563-0456 / / 1
12. / Couture, Lise / 613-745-8044 / / 1
13. / Crépin, Jacqueline / 237-7427 ext. 206 / / 1
14. / Demers, Annette / 745-2567 / 1
15. / Demers, Francine / / 1
16. / Derry, Geoff / 613-748-1091 / / 0
17. / Deschamps, Eric / 740—0607 ext. 229 / / 1
18. / Deschamps, Angela / 740-0607 / / 1
19. / Desjardins, André / 747-3611 / / 1
20. / Devoy, Desmond / / 0
21. / Diaz-Granados, Elvira Maria / 1
22. / Dutrisac, Ronald / 993-3503 / 1
23. / Dutrisac, Pierrette / 613-746-5127 / none / 1
24. / El Yacoubi, Kim / 613-741-0562 / / 0
25. / Flight, Barbara / 590-0830 / / 1
26. / Foisy, Monique / 749-9198 / / 1
27. / Franklin, Irene / 613-746-9771 / / 1
28. / Fraser, Sarah / / 0
29. / Gariepy, Lise / 744-4340 / / 1
30. / Gauld, Norma / 613-842-4668 / / 1
31. / Gazley, Anne / 819-827-2653
His Wild Flowers Ministry / / 1
32. / Gnarowski, Franceska / / 1
33. / Grandmaitre, Denis / 613-748-0726
613-286-8757 cell / / 0
34. / Gravelle, Pierrette / 613-741-0158 / none / 0
35. / Graves, Peter / 613-842-5395 / / 1
36. / Guillemette, Arnel / 613-742-0988 / / 0
37. / Hamlin, John / 0
38. / Harrison, Debbie / 740-0987 / / 1
39. / Harrison, Thomas / 740-0987 / / 1
40. / Hart, Marilyn / 842-4334 / / 1
41. / Hefferman, Jamie / / 0
42. / Hocking, John / 746-5274 / / 1
43. / Horne, Michael / 613-744-1148 / / 1
44. / Hum, Jamie / 613-746-6227 / / 0
45. / Johnston, Staff Sergeant Paul / / 0
/ Justinich, Justinich / / 0
/ Kaulback, Deborah / / 0
48. / Keir, Catherine / 748-9778 / / 1
49. / Laberge, Jeannette / 749-8418 / 1
50. / Larochelle, Superintendant Gilles / / 1
51. / Laver, Marianne / / 1
52. / Leuty, Andrew / 613-745-8026 / / 1
53. / Liew, Jamie / / 0
/ Litchfield, Sadi / 613-237-7427 ext 301 / / 0
/ Lopez, Leticia / 328-5832 / / 1
/ MacDonald, Sharon / 748-9778 / / 1
57. / McConville, Bruce / 613-298-1984 ( c)
613-748-7731 (w) / / 0
58. / McNeilly, Joyce / 613-680-3027 / / 0
59. / Meilleur, Madeleine / 613-744-4484 / / 0
60. / Morin, Christine / 613-762-6799 / / 0
61. / Morin, Vivianne / 745-7731 / 1
62. / Minifie, Noreen / 749-8146 / / 1
63. / Olumide, Ade / 421-1210 / / 1
64. / O’Neil, Brooke / 795-3957 / / 1
65. / O’Reilly, Jill / 613-746-5999 / / 1
66. / Parrott, Parrott / / 0
67. / Poole, Father Bob / 744-8974 / / 1
68. / Poulin, Bruce / / 0
69. / Proulx, Eloi / 613-746-4003 / none / 1
70. / Reynolds, Dana / / 0
71. / Rheaume, Andrew / / 1
72. / Rodas-Wright, Jina / 613-237-7427 ext. 301 / / 1
/ Silver, Bill / 749-9752 / / 1
/ Smyth, Samantha / / 0
/ Soikie, Evan / 613-745-0405 / / 0
/ Stethem, Diane / 613-741-7851 / none / 1
/ Stethem, Richard / 613-741-7851 / none / 1
/ Toole, Grant / / 0
79. / Tousignant, Marcel / 744-0040 / / 1
80. / Woodill, Joanne / tel: 613-239-1455
fax: 613-239-1120 / / 0
81. / Woods, Jennifer / The Ottawa Inuit Children's Centre / / 1
82. / Worsfold, Nancy / / 1
83. / Yull, Kim / 565-6709 / / 1
84. / 54