INTRODUCTION AND COURSE OVERVIEW. WHAT IS LOBBYING? WHAT DOES A LOBBYIST DO? WHO DO LOBBYISTS REPRESENT?
Goals for the class
- How you advocate the government to take action
- How lobbyists are regulated
- Expansion of strategic thinking
- Consider attempting to change the law as opposed to finding ways for your client to cope with it
What is lobbying?
- An advocate who can articulate your case to a policymaker
- Very similar to a lawyer
- In DC, a lot of people are both lobbyists and lawyers
- Morrison…Lawyers represent individuals or small groups of people in a proceeding; whereas, lobbyists attempt to effectuate policies affecting large numbers of people
- Lobbyists are dealing with policy for everybody
- In some areas of the law, sound advocacy for a client can come only through a change in the law
- Hard to distinguish between lawyers and lobbyists
- In a marginal way, lobbyists may even manage to influence judges
- In some ways, lobbyists act as “mouthpieces” for interest groups
- A lot of lobbying is not done by lobbyists, but rather through direct lobbying by interested citizens supported lobbyists
- Statutory definition…Lobbyist Disclosure Act
- If you attempt to influence legislation, executive action, government policies, or government contracts… “lobbyist”
- A bit narrow…attempting to identify people who are substantially involved in “lobbying”
What do lobbyists do?
- Direct advocacy
- Relatively small percentage of time spent here
- Sometimes if other things are done correctly, direct lobbying is not needed…
- Grassroots advocacy
- Getting someone to call an elected official with regards to a given issue
- Lobbyists spend a lot of time coordinating and implementing grassroots activism
- Influencing the public or segments of the public
- Creating awareness of their views within the public
- Some may argue this is manipulative, but in reality people are just putting forth and assuring their position
- In many ways, lobbyists serve to inform the public
What is the value of lobbyists?
- Good
- Provide significantly in-depth info
- This level of research provides education to congressional staffs
- Good side of pressure…lobbyists facilitate
- Morrison…lobbyists grease the wheels
- Inertia is your enemy unless you are a lobbyist interested in maintaining the status quo
- Amplify constituency
- Drafting legislation
- Aids in the legislative process
- Fundraising
- The lobbyist also acts to educate the client with regards to the issue at hand, policy implications, and policy effects (both potential and actual)
- Bad
- Bad side of putting on pressure…
- Pressure forces decision making
- Amplifying constituency may also prove negative
- Money
- Important point
- Only people with money can employ lobbyists
- Money can be achieved for a group by numerous small contributors or a smaller amount of large contributors
- We must take into account that different types of people have different amounts of discretionary funds at their disposal
- Drafting legislation
- Compromises the legislative process
- Fundraising
Morrison and Burns articles
- Saints or sinners…judging lobbying is not really an issue of moral right or wrong
- Instead, we must look at lobbyists as protectors of our 1st right
- However, there are ways in which lobbyists can act more saint-like or more sinner-like
- Special interests…
- Often used as a pejoratively in public discourse
- This should not be the case because the term represents a wide-range of things
- Burns…special interests only prevail half the time
- .500 batting average isn’t so bad
- she argues that gains from lobbying are made the margins, when it is going to be a close call
- Burns
- Drastic change based on the circumstances
Who do lobbyists represent?
- Associations
- From the Chamber of Commerce to non-profit organizations
- NGOs
- Foreign countries/governments
- Lobbyists help foreign governments understand the inner workings of the American political system
- An example of someone who does not have a lobbyist
- Some groups may not have direct lobbyists, but they do have other options
LEGAL HISTORY, CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS AND ROLE IN A DEMOCRACY OF LOBBYING – THE “PROS AND CONS”
- Aside: if you are a lobbyist that is a lawyer, people will assume you know the applicable law (even if you do not)
Allard…
- In times of political gridlock, lobbyists are sometimes the only ones who can bridge the gap between factions and achieve some kind of political progress.
Historical/constitutional foundations of lobbying
- Stems from the historical right to petition government and seek redress for grievances
- Starting all the way back with the Magna Carta in Great Britain
- The Bill of Rights and lobbying…1st Amendment
- Not just the right to petition government
- Cannot provide this narrow of a reading
- It is really a bundle of rights….freedom of expression; political rights
- Rights beyond the right to petition…Freedom of speech; freedom to peacefully assemble; freedom of the press
- Critical parts as the right to influence government
- Early on there we not so many hired lobbyists, as we think of them today
- Not until the 50s, 60s, and 70s that lobbyists become prevalent in Washington
- Not a coincidence that the rise in lobbyists comes with the rise in complexity of economic issues, etc.
- Right to political associations
- NAACP v. Alabama
- People have a right to associate politically with one another without the government inferring with that
- Disclosing the names of those involved in a political movement could be a “chilling” tactic of the government
- This is an important right for lobbyists because a lot of what lobbyists do is coalition building
- The release of the names of people involved may constrain their ability to freely engage in political association
- Courts are very protective in 1st cases involving freedom of speech and also lobbying/right to petition
- However, Courts are not that protective when it comes to forcing retained lobbyists to disclose names
- Lobbying in other countries
- The structure of the American government is particularly conducive to lobbying
- This is not the case elsewhere
- In Europe, the representative governments do not have the same influence in producing legislation
Federalist No. 10
- Madison is concerned with factors, and in particular keeping the majority factions in check
- Difference between a republic and a democracy
- The turmoil of a pure democracy
- So many factions would cause chaos amidst groups fighting each other
- Fear of the oppression of the majority
- Did Madison anticipate a two-party system?
- Madison seems to be accepting a premise… “factions are bad”
- A system of self-government must exist so as to counter the negatives created by factions
- Institutions have to be set up to contain the pernicious nature of factions, so as to harness them for good
- What is the state of factions today?
- Far more prevalent, pervasive (due to our greater degree of interconnection)…but what is the effect of this?
- In order to get things done in Congress, you have to accommodate a lot of factions
- In this way, you are hard pressed to get anything near a “pure product” through
Judicial review of lobbying law
- Not a lot of case law
- Strict scrutiny standard
- Lobbying cannot be restricted
- However, there are things that can be done to regulate lobbyists…possible routes…
- Prohibition of contingent fees or success fees
- The thought behind this is that contingent fees, all or nothing arrangements, put too much pressure on people to do the wrong thing
- However, there are ways to get around this
- Regulation of gifts and political contributions
- Lobbying cannot be taxed
- It would be an undue financial burden
- However, it is okay to deny a deduction for lobbying activity (as if it were a normal business expense)…but it is not okay to tax lobbying activity
- The government interest in regulating has to outweigh the impact on lobbying
- Governmental interests of regulating lobbying
- Avoiding corruption or the appearance of corruption
- Transparency creates a collective sense of confidence that people know that there is not a slew of backroom deals going on
- Beyond the public, disclosure benefits the members
- Disclosures make known who lobbyists represent and from this one can garner a better idea of what the lobbyist is about
- Furthermore, disclosure provides information to the media
- People always find ways to get around lobbying regulations, then the regulations are readjusted, then beat again…its cyclical (like most other legal phenomena)
- Take away
- Lobbying cannot be restricted by Congress, but some lobbying practices may be restricted.
- Congress can’t stop you from expressing yourself; however, Congress can regulate the practices you employ to express yourself.
POLICY MAKING PROCESS
- What we want to focus on is each point where a lobbyist could speed up (if for) or slow down (if against) potential legislation
- Your biggest enemy in failing to pass something is inertia
Idea
- Starting point
- Idea for policy/legislation could come from a lobbyist
- You can converse with staff members, etc.
- Advocating for a given client
- Doing to research before pen is put to paper
- Lobbyists have at times written bills (very rare), but more often consult with regards to the writing of bills
- Legislation is rarely written by members or staff
- Lobbyists generally sends a memo to a given legislative counsel
- Legislative counsels create a draft bill and send it back to the lobbyists and also shop it around
- Lobbyists remain in the loop in terms of consultation
- The consultation may go on briefly or for years
- Beyond this back-and-forth, you want to go get co-sponsors
- Bi-partisan co-sponsors are particularly helpful
- The objective is to develop a constituency with as many co-sponsors (other members, other Ss if you’re an S; other Hs if you’re an H) as you can
- A bill being dropped with a significant number of co-sponsors (and diversity of ideologies) gives the bill a more serious tone
Introduction of a bill
- “Drop it in the hopper” or electronic delivery
- A serious, attention-getting bill will get a statement on the floor along with the coordination of the press
Referral to committee
- As an L (lobbyist), you can try to work the referral of the bill
- However, Ls do not have much sway here
- Most times nothing happens when a bill goes to committee
- Further referral goes to subcommittee
- Sometimes a bill that ordinarily would go to subcommittee is not referred because the chairman fears what would happen
- Lobbyist have some influence here
- Bills can be referred to multiple committees
- This multiplies the complexities of the process
- Two parallel processes of the path converge and have to meet again
- Hearings
- Good time for Ls to influence
- With regards to witnesses, what they say, and what questions members ask
Mark-up
- Session were the bill is debated and talked about
- L are important here
- You can attempt to influence the members, provide data, discuss points
Chairman’s mark
- Vote in committee and if author is lucky to bill will make it out of committee
Calendar
- Bill sits here until the leadership wants it to move
- Ls may have some influence in getting the bill moving
Rules Committee
- Adopts a rule to consider the bill
- Members in the H place procedural votes with regards to amending, etc. of the bill
- Using majority and minority members follow suit
- Whether it will be open or closed to amendments, debate, etc.
- No completely open rules in the past two years
- Some modified open rules
- Controlled by the majority leadership
- Potential for Ls to influence
- Amendments could occur at this stage in the process
- The most junior member in the S could really slow down a bill in hopes to kill it or try to reach more of a consensus
- Filibuster
- Not available to the H
- S is much more difficult and different from the H
- S needs unanimous consent; H needs majority
- However, S agree to time limits in lieu of rules
- Any S could really hold up anything
- An important thing a L can do is persuade a friendly Senator to put a (“secret”) hold on a bill
- Cloture
- A vote to end debate
House votes/Senate votes
- H passes
- S passes
Conference Committee
- Conference does not have to occur if S takes up an H bill or if H takes up and S bill
- This is protocol for all bills except appropriations bills
H votes/S votes
- Conference report
- Effectively the new law
- Compromise made between the H and S
- Conference report is arguably the most important piece of legislative history for lawyers
- Opportunity here for Ls to persuade
President
- (1) Signs
- L may try to have some influence at the signing ceremony (which are rare as is)
- Signing statements are viewed more importantly by some than others
- (2) Returns veto
- chance for override
- Room for influence here
- Lobby for or against P’s veto
REFER TO FLOW CHART ON BACK OF SYLLABUS IN FOLDER
- Aside: State of the Union
- Lobbyists will try and get the P to say certain things
Lobbying the administration (post-passing legislation)
- P has the power of the executive order
- The P has extraordinary power
- Especially in wartime
- Lobbying the executive branch is often still congressional lobbing because it is more influential for a member of Congress to attempt to persuade the administration
- Appropriations committees can influence the agencies
- And appropriations committee members can be lobbied
- Another instance of lobbying Congress to influence the executive
- Office of Management and Budget
- Makes announcement about what a new law’s empirical effects may be
- You can try to lobby them, but in a limited way
- Rulemaking process
- agency wants to promulgate a regulation/rule
- the first thing the agency does is offer an opportunity to comment
- if you are a L, you can ask a member to write a letter on your behalf
- a rule can be influenced or even held back
- There are many routes (some backdoor) for influencing the regulatory system
- Lobbying agencies directly
- Getting members to write letters
- Getting members to hold hearings
- Members of affected districts will probably listen most fervently
- There is a lot of congressional input into regulatory decisions
Going back to the legislative process
- a report on the bill is written after members come out of committee
- report language
- report has language in it with regards to how Congress sees the agency dealing with the bill
- clearing up intent
- getting the agency to do what you want
- they do not want to fail to do what the congress put forth
- not binding, but has value
- colloquy
- a member will discuss the bill’s language on the floor
- a lot of nitpicking on the language of the bill
- clearing up intent
- getting the agency to do what you want
- they do not want to fail to do what the congress put forth
- Presidential appointments and confirmations
- A lot of lobbying here
- Big policy implications
- Confirmation hearings
- Lobby Senators to ask particular questions
- Put nominee on the spot
- Hold up nominations until the question is answered
COMPONENTS OF A LOBBYING CAMPAIGN[22-29]
- Components of a lobbying campaign (direct lobbying, building public support, grass-roots lobbying, media, pollsters, policy/legal/economic analyses)
Digression
- A former US Senator is banned from lobbying anybody in the Congress for two years
- The key question to ask is “what is lobbying?”
- Lobbying…a communication intended to influence a fed official
- What is a communication intended to influence fed official?
- They may become strategic advisors
- Former members can talk to one another, they just cannot communicate with the intent of influencing
- They may simply be attempting to obtain information from a current senator
- Numerous attempts at obtaining info may be construed as more than just regular “communication”
- Interpretation and/or recollection of a conversation may differ in great degree between two people
- Look at the obvious, how it could appear
- For instance, take into account a former senator may be getting funded by a lobbying firm
- What does it mean to not be able to lobby?
- This post-employment restriction is broader than the Lobbying Disclosure Act
- Former Senators can become lobbyists, but cannot lobby
- Political activity is a very regulated activity now
- What, where, and how you say something can get you in trouble
Birnbaum article
- Setting the stage
- 9/11 had a devastating impact on US travel
- tightening of visas
- fear
- coming into and going out of two big recessions
- Disney employee starts the lobbying efforts
- Big idea is to get US gov’t to pay for international advertising campaign
- Really big Ask
- The Ask is not received, but a more permanent lobbying faction is created
- Lobbying efforts are not always completely successful and often take several years
- Managing a coalition is very difficult because there is so many competing interests
- It is hard to get new money out of Congress
- The only way you could get new money is to take it away from somebody else
- Here, not a whole lot of fighting the 9/11 sentiment, they tried to go around it
- Not a particularly good move
- Tom Ridge
- Acts as a validator
- Particularly important if pushing a counterintuitive or unattractive idea to the people you are trying to sell to
- Funding your own study, even if completely legit, undermines it somewhat
Coalitions
- Here, who is in this travel coalition?
- Hotels
- Airlines
- Travel agents
- Rental car agencies
- Amusement parks
- Restaurants
- Counties and cities
- Especially those with travel destinations
- Labor unions may apply to all of the above factions?
- In many cases the unions will not work out with these issues because industries generally have adversarial relationships with organized labor
- Has changed a bit over the years?
- Competition in one arena and cooperation in another
- I.e., strange bedfellows
- Who (members, other executives, etc.) wants what we want? Whose objectives overlap with our objectives? Whose are at odds? Who is persuadable?
- Sometimes you find strange bedfellows
- Everything revolves around competing interests
- “if you ever want to run for President, you’re going to have run through Iowa, and it doesn’t help to lose the Iowa caucuses.”
- Political leverage…members often do not vote against IA on issues that their state has no real interest in
- E.g., ethanol tax credits
- Putting together a coalition
- Start with a meeting
- Money
- Deeper pockets pay more
- Coalition building is about as important as anything
- Who does the coalition need to talk to?
- Members; the public; the press
- Both from the right and the left
- What do you use as talking points?
- Polling; academic studies; validators
- What if you don’t win?
- Often times, restart and try to get further the next campaign around
- “You never want to achieve all your clients goals…”
- Doesn’t really make sense.
- There is always more work and you will get more if you do your job well.
- This is without even mentioning ethics.
- Overall…
- You bring in your team, then you find out the team against you.