(Just before this first PM was received, I had posted a comment on a news post asking that people not use giant images of spiders as their thumbnail images because they freak me out hugely, and I can’t avoid seeing them if they’re on the front page. DL responded by finding an image of a giant spider and posting it in reply to me along with “SPIDER!! Behind you! :D”. I asked him not to do that, and he got very defensive and personal in the comments, so I decided to move it to PM as follows.)
RG: On 4/15/2008 5:46:11 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
"SPIDER!! Behind you! :D" just lead me to believe you are making a personal attack, rather than debating the subject at hand.
I would hope that your time here at Plime would have taught you that this is not how we do things, generally. If you want to debate your post, that's one thing. If you want to engage in personal jabs, let's do it in another place.
No amount of ":D" makes you seem any less of a jerk.
DL: 4/15/2008 6:05:42 PM
Ya know what? You need to take yourself less seriously and lighten up. IT WAS A JOKE not a "personal jab". I think the weeds making you paranoid.
RG: On 4/15/2008 6:31:51 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
You are making fun of my arachnophobia. I don't think that's funny. I didn't think it was funny before I started smoking what little weed I DO smoke.
It's very interesting that you seemed apologetic in the public forum (comments in your post) but showed a very different face to me in private.
DL: 4/15/2008 6:38:25 PM
It's pretty simple, I've tried been polite to you and will continue to be publicly for the sake of other Plimates. Hell, I tried offering you some sincere advice and opened up about my addiction in a thread a little while back that you spat back in my face. You come across as someone thats really up themselves and angsty. Whatever, I don't really care. You obviously take yourself far to seriously and are in your own little world.
I sincerely apologized for you taking offense to my comment that was a light- hearted comment, that will probably be spat back at me by you too.
End of conversation from my end
(DL posted a dupe of an article on Sine Wave Speech, which I pointed out as a dupe and linked back to the original. He responded by making a personal attack on me in the comments section. I replied via PM)
RG On 4/16/2008 7:07:27 AM, Rowangrey wrote:
You just can't help yourself, can you? Notice that I didn't even downvote the post, only pointed to the previous post.
Just chill out, DL. You're going to wear yourself out snarking me at every opportunity. You shouldn't waste that much energy on someone you don't like.:
DL: 4/16/2008 7:11:28 AM
I'd really appreciate it if you didn't pm me unless of the highly unlikely event you have something nice to say, thank you so much. I like to reserve my inbox for friends and pleasant conversation.
Why would you downvote it anyway? It's been plenty of time since it was posted last time. I for one haven't seen it before. (rhetorical question)
RG: On 4/16/2008 7:14:34 AM, Rowangrey wrote:
No, see, discussion like this is not appropriate in the forums or in the news section, thus I use a PM to communicate with you without dragging this whole thing into the public forum. That's how it works. You would be better served by following this theory, as well.
I pointed it out because the most basic search of "sine" would have shown you that this was posted recently. I know you're reading the "Dupes" thread, so you know what the current opinion is.
DL: 4/16/2008 7:24:08 AM
I don't generally blindly follow "current opinion" in the vague hope it will make me popular or "cool" or get me upvotes. I'm not a Karma Whore ;)
Again, I aren't discussing anything with you in the public forums or comments as I don't really want to converse on petty shite with oyu.
You don't like me, that's cool , I guess I may get over that fact, with time and some counselling.
Just please, please, please, quit bothering me with petty rubbish, mmmmkay?
I've got 5 kids a job and a life. I come on Plime for mental stimulation and a giggle you're turning into a chore at the moment.
RG: On 4/16/2008 7:33:57 AM, Rowangrey wrote:
Which is why you constantly post dupes that are easily found. How pathetic a human being you must be.
I remind you AGAIN that YOU are continuing this argument. STOP snarking at me. STOP IT. YOU stop snarking me, I'll stop trying to rationalize with you.
If Plime is becoming a chore, then by ALL means, leave us the hell alone. Quite a handful of us think you are a piss ant, apparently.
Every time you feel the need to make a jab at me in the news section or in the forums, I will send you a PM rather than bring our argument into the public attention. I imagine I'll have to do this a lot.
DL: 4/16/2008 7:54:35 AM
Pm me an abusive message like this again and I WILL report you. I've never been abusive to you or called you names. I'd love to send you some messages I've received about you but I'm not a trouble maker.
Again I ask you politely. Do not pm me any more.
(One day he upvoted me about 25 times in a row on news posts I had made way back at the beginning. This was around the same time that someone else had gottem fed up with his personal attacks in the forums and he was downvoted by a few users.)
RG: On 4/24/2008 5:18:29 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
What's with all the upvotes all of a sudden? Is it my birthday?
DL: 4/24/2008 5:21:31 PM
Nope, just spreadin the love before me departs.
(I sent this after he attacked me again in the forum for having a different opinion from his.)
RG: On 7/28/2008 8:35:19 AM, Rowangrey wrote:
Don't start with me again.
DL: 7/28/2008 8:42:06 AM
okies, I think maybe take a step back and chill eh?
I won't be getting into a little pm frenzy with you so any more I receive will be going into my Unwanted Pm section, just so as ya know.
RG: (I don’t have these PMs, as he did not quote them in his replies and the Sent Messages box only goes back a week or so.) I replied to the above with something to the effect of, “Just stop attacking me in the forum. Please attack me via PM in the future.)
DL: 7/28/2008 9:05:57 AM
Like I said, I'm moving any message that you send straight to the trash bin, I just don't want you wasting your time typing them if I'm not gonna read them.
RG: (At this point I knew he was reading them, so I told him I would reply to every one of his PMs until he got tired of playing this game with me.)
DL: 7/28/2008 9:35:49 AM
Again, trash bin. I don't know why you're still sending them when I'm not reading them :S
RG: (Same PM as last time)
DL: 7/28/2008 10:04:25 AM
Trash bin, again.
Last time I'm gonna bother reminding you, hopefully it'll sink in this time round.
(This is after I downvoted him to a 30.)
DL: 7/28/2008 2:07:14 PM
You are at best laughable
Seriously, did you think that dropping me a level will make any difference at all to my life or me being on plime?
You have issue and everyone on plime knows it.
RG: On 7/28/2008 2:08:35 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
D'oh! I guess you ARE communicating with me again. That was easy.
You need knocking down. I just did my little part
DL: 7/28/2008 2:12:42 PM
Seek help. I presume you just have feelings for me which is why you pay me so much attention. Just give in to your feelings and admit it.
Funny how you don't have what it takes to admit you dropped me in public and that you had to anonymously create doggleave to whine. You're a sad coward who has to hide behind anonymity for fear of being disliked, laughable.
Who's the karma whore who can't take the chance at not being liked now eh?
Do you really think I care one bit if you downvote me another 5 levels even. Unlike you I have a life outside of my computer.
You make me lmao.
All future pm's are going in the trash bin so knock yourself out
RG: On 7/28/2008 2:14:01 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
I trash you publicly, not sneakily
DL: 7/28/2008 2:25:57 PM
Yeh, I'm reading this as you're giving me a giggle with your bitter rantings :D
It's funny how you talk big about how you open and how much you speak your mind yet you don't have the balls to say in public you dropped me a level ;)
Like I said, laughable.
(Immediately after having accused me of being secretly sweet on him, he posted a comment in the forum that read, “Did anyone else, when they were a kid, have a boy/girl who was really mean to them who you then found out had a huge crush on you?”, which was clearly a jab secretly made at me and meant to piss me off. You probably saw my reply to him and the ensuing disapproval of me from the masses.)
(This was received after I downvoted something he said in the forums that was a personal attack on someone else.)
DL: 7/31/2008 4:52:28 PM
Eye <3 You
RG: On 7/31/2008 4:52:52 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
Die in a fire.
DL: 7/31/2008 4:56:09 PM
I knew you loved me too.
RG: On 7/31/2008 4:58:55 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
How's that fire coming?
DL: 7/31/2008 5:00:16 PM
Toasty, I've got marshmallows going now
RG: On 7/31/2008 5:05:57 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
That vow to no longer read my PMs was short lived, huh?
DL: 7/31/2008 5:18:29 PM
yeh, I just can't get enough of you.
RG: On 7/31/2008 5:19:01 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
I'm starting to get that. Please do me a favor and go fuck yourself.
DL: 7/31/2008 5:22:06 PM
Love you too.
I'll go fuck myself when you stop lavishing your attention on me in the form of downvotes.
You're super groovy Rowangrey
RG: On 7/31/2008 5:23:18 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
Hey, I use 'em as I see fit. I can answer your PMs all day.
DL: 7/31/2008 5:25:42 PM
Good, cos I can't get enough of you, you wonderful, popular, well-balanced individual :D
Wuv yoooooo!
RG: On 7/31/2008 5:34:49 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
If you think attempting to make me feel bad by mocking my mental state is going to work, you haven't been paying attention.
How about making fun of something that isn't already obvious to everyone. It'll make you feel and seem more witty.
Start with my weight. You could call me fat-ass or tubbo. Or you could ridicule my lack of a college education. Is dunce too old-fashioned for you, or would you prefer something like "'tardo"?
DL: 7/31/2008 5:39:31 PM
I wouldn't resort to comments like "die in a fire" or other equally wonderful statements.
Who mentioned you having "issues" by the way? You say mocking your mental state? What does that mean.
At least I'm not calling you a complete bitch like others do, that's just uncalled for in my opinion.
RG: On 7/31/2008 5:46:00 PM, Rowangrey wrote: See, I don't give two shits what you or anyone else thinks of me.
DL: 7/31/2008 5:48:08 PM
Good job really eh sweetheart?
xxx
<3 <3
xxx
RG: On 7/31/2008 5:49:44 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
No, come on... you can do better than that. Insult my intelligence or something
DL: 7/31/2008 5:56:48 PM
You can't insult the non-existent.
LOVE YOU!!
I'm gonna dream about you tonight I think
RG: On 7/31/2008 6:06:48 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
That was close, but not great. I think if you tried harder, we might get somewhere.
That's really more on the level of "I know you are, but what am I?"
Try something like this: "Now, now Rowan... you shouldn't enter a battle of wits unarmed!"
or
"Are you lost in thought? I know it's unfamiliar territory..."
Now, copy and paste these into another PM and send them back to me.
DL: 7/31/2008 6:09:56 PM
Love you, for someone who hates me you sure do type a lot to me :D =] I loves you.
Did I mention I love you?
RG: On 7/31/2008 6:14:28 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
You are aware that you are the one who started PMing me today, right? I type a lot to you because it gives me great pleasure to not only insult you, but to waste your time.
And by all means, please continue to assume I have a giant crush on you. It makes you look wonderfully pathetic.
DL: 7/31/2008 6:15:56 PM
Do the terms PARANOID and EGOTISTICAL mean anything to you? Jeez, get over yourself already
RG: On 7/31/2008 6:17:32 PM, Rowangrey wrote:
Now you can't even remember WHAT you have used to insult me in the recent past.
This is a direct quote from you:
"I presume you just have feelings for me which is why you pay me so much attention. Just give in to your feelings and admit it."
Again with the backtracking.
DL: 7/31/2008 6:18:45 PM
Like I said, paranoid, maybe it's too much weed.
From here on out he has downvoted every post I’ve made in the forums or in comments on news posts. I continue to downvote any snarky comments he makes toward others or toward me.
These are not the only times DL as gone out of his way to insult me, but these are the only ones I have evidence of. I ignore 75% of the attacks he makes on me.
DL has a long history of going back and editing his posts after the fact to remove personal attacks, change wording, and add in information that was not there to begin with. He goes out of his way to play the family sympathy card. He even went back after I dv’d and replied to one of his veiled attacks at me and added in the “my daughter is in the hospital” line to garner sympathy.