CONFIRMED MINUTES
OCTOBER, 23 2013
PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, USA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the CP-SAT at a subsequent meeting.
1.0 CALL TO ORDER
1.1 Opening Comments
1.2 Routing of attendance list
1.3 Introductions
1.4 Review of “Rules of Conduct”
1.5 Approval of June 2013 Meeting Minutes
Proposed: Jim Ringer
Seconded: Jonathan Hebben
Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME / COMPANY NAME* / Mark / Airey / Robert Stuart Ltd.
Matthew / Akin / TrueLogic Company, LLC
Leandro / Aparicio / Advanced Coating Technique
* / Lee / Bruce / Robert Stuart Ltd.
Eric / Carlson / Esterline - Hytek Finishes
* / Stephane / Chaumeil / Galion
* / Steve / Crest / Stabile Plating
* / Jim / Cummings / Metal Finishing Co.
Jeremie / Gerten / Metal Finishing Company, Inc.
Tim / Hamlett / Certified Metal Finishing Inc.
* / Jonathan / Hebben / Ducommun AeroStructures Gardena
* / Bill / Heeter / Skills Inc.
* / Eric / Jacklin / F.M. Callahan & Son Inc.
Jeff / Jones / Alloy Processing
Cindy / Klingler / Triumph Processing, Embee Division, Inc.
Dustin / Little / Ducommun AeroStructures Parsons
Sharon / Mack / PM Testing Laboratory, Inc.
Julie / Mahan / Unison Engine Components - Terre Haute
* / Mike / Noettl / Magnetic Inspection Laboratory Inc.
* / Greg / Penny / Triumph Processing - Embee Division, Inc.
* / Kim / Porter / Poly-Metal Finishing
* / Jim / Ringer / Tech Met
Cindy / Roth / Team Industrial Services TCM Division
Victor / Salazar / OMNI Metal Finishing Inc
* / Tammi / Schubert / LMI Finishing, Inc.
* / Stephen / Simacek / Hytek Finishes Company
* / Greg / Smotherman Jr. / Ozark Mountain Technologies LLC
Greg / Smotherman Sr. / Ozark Mountain Technologies LLC
* / Vitorio / Stana / Avcorp Industries Inc.
Debbie / Sykes / Hixson Metal Finishing
* / Mitch / Tanner / Triumph Processing - Embee Division, Inc.
* / Jerry / Wahlin / AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.
Michael / Wolf / Finishing Professionals, LLC
PRI Staff Present
William / CalvertNigel / Cook
Robert / Nixon
2.0 NEW MEMBER ORIENTATION
Review Functions and Operation of the Nadcap CP Task Group as well as the role of this committee in support of the Task Group.
3.0 REVIEW CP-SAT MISSION STATEMENT
4.0 STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS FROM PREVIOUS MEETING
SSC Meeting Presentation: The SSC did not include this item in the October 2013 agenda and it is not a CP-SAT responsibility. Action: Closed
AC7108 App B Test Methods: The suppliers are finding it difficult to understand which section in Appendix B should be used for certain tests. Can staff review the sections and add CAG to clearly describe what tests are applicable to a given section of AC7108 App B. Ask for this to be included in the strategic plan and included in the new AC7108/4. Action: Open
AC7108 App B Test Methods: CP Task Group to be requested to set up a sub-team to identify additional test methods for inclusion in AC7108/4, e.g. surface roughness, electrical continuity testing. Action: Open
NOP-002 Compliance: Definition of requirement proposal was actioned by the Task Group. Action: Closed
5.0 NEW BUSINESS / OPEN SESSION
Checklist Strategy: Concern about how audit duration will be addressed for audits with an audit count greater than 5 days. Can feedback be obtained from auditors on audit duration. The issue is actually about selection and number of job audits. The programming in eAuditNet limits any single CP audit to 5 days maximum. Action: Concern to be expressed in the Task Group meeting.
Supplier Feedback: Since June 2013 the supplier feedback is no longer visible to the auditor. This was a management decision and is the same for all commodities. Any concerns on this will need to be raised through the SSC.
2014 Auditor Conference: A sub-team was appointed to write a presentation for the change from technical datasheets to a process control document (PCD) but the checklist is not yet amended. Need to reconsider as a training item, can a PCD be considered equivalent to a TDS (auditor advisory). Action: Concern to be expressed in the Task Group meeting.
REACH: All suppliers should sign-up to NASF.
CP-SAT Chair: Since Jim Cummings has been appointed NMC Representative for the CP Task Group he may not be available to support the CP-SAT meeting so a new Chair may need to be appointed.
REACH: The CP Task Group has requested the CP-SAT provide their method for compliance with REACH and give some examples. The following people volunteered. (Jerry Wahlin, Mike Noettl, Jim Cummings, Debbie Sykes, Stephane Chaumeil, Steve Simacek)
6.0 DEVELOP AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING
Please send requests for items to Jim Cummings
ADJOURNMENT – 23-Oct-13 – Meeting was adjourned at 6:30 p.m.