CHEMICAL PROCESSING

OCTOBER 2015

UNCONFIRMED

UNCONFIRMED MINUTES

OCTOBER19-22, 2015

PITTSBURGH, PA, USA

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

MONDAY, OCTOBER 19 to THURSDAY, OCTOBER 22

1.0OPENING COMMENTS

1.1Call to Order / Quorum Check

The Chemical Processing Task Group (CPTG) was called to order at 8:00 a.m., 22-Jun-2015.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME / COMPANY NAME
* / Hal / Abel / Raytheon
* / Tomohiko / Ashikaga / Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.
* / Cary / Baker / The Boeing Company
* / Malik / Boutoba / Airbus Helicopters
* / Craig / Bowden / BAE Systems
Michael / Brewer / Spirit AeroSystems
Jonathan / Chung / UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)
* / Ron / Cohen / Israel Aerospace Industries
* / Mike / Coleman / The Boeing Company
* / Katelyn / Crowley / Bell Helicopter
Karen / Dannis / BAE Systems
* / Karyn / Deming / UTC Aerospace (Goodrich) / Chairperson
Kevin / Dowling / Spirit AeroSystems
Frédéric / Duhamel / Thales Global Services
* / Robert / Faticanti / Textron Defense Systems
Jenny / Fullum / Parker Hannifin
* / Laurent / Geerts / SONACA
Doug / Hahn / Gulfstream AerospaceCorporation
Paul / Hogben / The Boeing Company
Johanna / IdungCarlsson / GKN Aerospace Sweden AB
David / Isenberg / Parker Aerospace Group
* / Kazuhiro / Kajima / Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.
* / Martin / Kolinko / Eaton, Aerospace Group
Takuya / Konno / Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.
Ronald / Kramer / Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
* / Caroline / LeClair / U. S. Air Force
Marc-André / Lefebvre / Héroux-Devtek Inc.
Cheryl / Lewis / UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)
* / Susan / Lewis / Lockheed Martin
* / Mihaela / Lupu / SAFRAN Group
Adrien / Maffre / Airbus
* / Nick / Magnapera / BAE Systems
* / Veronique / Marcel / SAFRAN Group
Dawn / Mastin / UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)
* / Steve / McDonough / Triumph Group
* / Marc / Montreuil / Héroux-Devtek Inc.
* / Andrew / Murphy Jr / The Boeing Company
* / Raj / Nagarajan / Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
Timothy / Nance / Rockwell Collins
* / Jerker / Nordh / GKN Aerospace Sweden AB
Jim / O'Shea / GE Aviation
* / Jeremy / Phillips / Textron Aviation - Cessna
* / Josefa / Rodriguez-Baena / Airbus Defense and Space
* / Jonathan / Scudder / Pratt & Whitney
Dennis / Slattor / Bell Helicopter
* / Barry / Snitzer / Rolls-Royce
Xiaohang (Mike) / Song / Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation
* / Steven / Starr / Honeywell Aerospace
Thomas / Stevick / UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)
* / Michael / Stolze / Northrop Grumman / Vice Chairperson
* / Yuhui / Sun / COMAC
Jeffrey / Torone / Triumph Engine Controls
* / Zia / Usmani / BAE Systems - MAI(UK)
* / Shawn / Vierthaler / Spirit AeroSystems
* / Michael / Vosatka / Rockwell Collins
* / Gene / Wallace / Triumph Group
Patricia / Wesemann / The Boeing Company
Rick / Wire / The Boeing Company
Kimberly / Woodside / Parker Hannifin
* / Sergey / Yesilevich / UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME / COMPANY NAME
* / Mark / Airey / Robert Stuart Ltd.
Matthew / Akin / TrueLogic Company, LLC
Jesse / Alberto / Connecticut Tool & Manufacturing, LLC
Leandro / Aparicio / Advanced Coating Techniques
* / Daniel / Backus / Har-Conn Chrome Company
Tammy / Baker / In Tolerance Contract Manufacturing
Ali / Bakr / Nico Products, Inc.
Dragan (Charlie) / Bencun / Painting Technology Inc.
Marc / Blanchette / CT Tool & Mfg. Co. LLC
* / Phillip / Bratton / Hohman Plating & Mfg. Inc.
* / Phillip / Brockman / TECHMETALS Inc.
Timothy / Brooks / Advanced Integration Technology
Tom / Burgess / Amphenol Aerospace
Will / Calvert / Consulting
Lawrence / Carlson / PPI Aerospace-A Division of Integrity Aerospace
* / John / Carpenter / US Chrome
Jennifer / Carpenter-McTyer / Chrome Plus International, LLC
* / Stephane / Chaumeil / Galion
Charles / Costello / Sun-Glo Plating Company
Neil / Cowan / Nadcap Auditor
* / Peter / Cox / Central Metal Finishing, Inc.
Todd / Crawford / GKN Aerospace - St. Louis
* / Jim / Denton / B-D Industries Inc.
Sandra / Emery / Absolute Metal Finishing
Sheldon / Emmanuel / DCI Aerotech
Joe / Flaugher / Lord Corporation
* / Gary / Fox / Anodyne Inc.
* / Michael / Francisco / Stabile Plating
* / Christopher / Fredrickson / TECHMETALS Inc.
* / Nathan / Gangloff / RBC Aircraft Products Inc.
Tony / Garcia / Blanchard Metals Processing
David / Gray / Mitchell Laboratories Inc.
Paul / Grillo / Geater Machining & Mfg. Co.
Mike / Guthmiller / Applied Aerospace Structures
Debra / Hagar / NORDAM Interiors and Structures
* / Jonathan / Hebben / Circor Aerospace
Don / Horzewski / ATI Forged Products
James / Howarth / Advanced Coating Techniques
Gene / Hubbard / RBC Aircraft Products Inc.
Katie / Jensen / Magellan Aerospace
Amanda / Kirchner / beyondRelations LLC
Cindy / Klingler / Quality Systems Coaching, LLC
Charissa / Kobyluck / Coating Technologies
* / Keven / Kudelka / Westfield Electroplating Company
Casey / Kulhanek / Mico Machine Company
Mike / Kulhanek / Mico Machine Company
Superemaneyam / Kuppusamy / Upeca Aerotech Sdn. Bhd.
Yanick / Lavallée / Alcoa Titanium & Engineered Products
Angela / Leone / Lord Corporation
Dusty / Little / Ducommun Aerostructrues
* / Jeff / Logan / Saporito Finishing
Frank / Lopez / Semiray Special Process Division
Stefan / Lukas / BohlerSchmiedetechnik GmbH & Co KG
Jason / MacQuarrie / Lord Corporation
Rich / Madsen / Blanchard Metals Processing
Rosa / Martin / Superior Plating
Juan / Moreno / Omni Metal Finishing
Mark / Mougey / TECHMETALS Inc.
* / Simone / Murphy-Fickenworth / Chrome Plus International
* / Abdul / Nathani / Hi-Tech Metal Finishing
* / Dinh / Ngo / GKN Aerospace Chem-tronics, Inc.
* / Julie / Nguyen / Element Rancho Dominguez
Robert / Nixon / PRI
* / Mike / Noettl / Magnetic Inspection Laboratory Inc.
Chad / Norton / Asco Aerospace USA
Brynn-Marie / O'Neil / Ellison Surface Technologies
* / Gregory / Penny / Black Oxide Industries Inc.
John / Peterson / Wolkerstorfer Company, Inc.
* / Kim / Porter / Poly Metal Finishing
* / Dennis / Reidy / C.I.L. Inc.
* / Ken / Rettger / Lord Corporation
* / Jim / Ringer / Tech Met
* / Cindy / Roth / Team Industrial Services
Frank / Saenz / Hi-Tech Metal Finishing
Victor / Salazar / NTS (Nexus Tactics & Solutions)
* / Tammi / Schubert / Helicomb
* / Dave / Serbousek / Olympic Scientific
* / Ken / Shouse / Lord Corporation
* / Stephen / Simacek / Hytek Finishes Company
David / Small / West Penn Testing Group
John / Smith / Synergy Metal Finishing
* / Milton / Stevenson / Anoplate Corporation
Dawn / Stokes / PTI Industries Inc.
* / Steve / Stone / Saporito Finishing
Gigi / Streeter / Barnes Aerospace
Bill / Strong / Epner Technology Inc.
* / Mitch / Tanner / Triumph Processing, Embee Division
David / Thompson / DCI Aerotech
* / Jim / Tuminello / Tech Met
* / Awwen / Tyrsson / Barnes Aerospace - Ogden
Victoria / Van Patten / SPS Technologies
Costantino / Volpe / Senior Operations LLC
* / Gerald / Wahlin / AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.
Wilfriend / Weber / PFW Aerospace GmbH
Noel / Wessely / Rexnord Industries
Noel / Wessely / Rexnord Industries
Nathan / Wheeler / RAM Company
David / Winter / Olympic Scientific
Chris / Wolkerstorfer / Wolkerstorfer Company, Inc.
Drew / Wysocki / H & H Engineered Coatings
* / Matt / Zanolli / Alcoa Howmet Dover Castings
* / Brian / Zentis / Lord Corporation
* / Blanca / Zilli-Huerta / Bowman Plating Company

PRI Staff Present

Ethan / Akins
Joyce / Benkart
Nigel / Cook
Robert / Nixon

1.2Safety Information:

Reviewed Fire Exits from Meeting Room.

Informedattendees to contact Performance Review Institute (PRI) staff person with any emergencies.

1.3Reviewed Code of Ethics (Referenced: Attendees’ Guide) and Meeting Conduct.

1.4Presented the Antitrust Video (only at the first open and first closed meeting of the week for each Task Group).

1.5Approval of the minutes of the previous meeting.

Motion made by Cindy Rothand seconded by Mike Coleman to approve the minutes of the last meeting. Motion Passed.

1.6Reviewed Agenda.

2.0REVIEW DELEGATION STATUS– CLOSED

The delegation trackers, t-frm-07s, of the delegated audit report reviewers, Mike Graham, Nigel Cook, Bill Dumas, and Robert Nixon were reviewed. They all exceeded criteria for maintaining delegation and the Task Group voted to continue their delegation.

Motion made by Susan Lewis and seconded byJeremy Phillips for delegated reviewers to maintain delegation. Motion Passed.

The tracker for the non-delegated reviewersJohn (Jack) Holman and Ethan Akins were also reviewed. There were no issues of concern.

Some of the delegation trackers were not completed correctly, they did not include Non-conformance Report (NCR) numbers or the actual comments made by reviewers.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to train the Chemical Process Staff Engineers and Consultant Reviewers on the correct completion of the delegation tracker. (Due Date: 30-Nov-2015)

3.0SUBSCRIBER AUDITS – CLOSED

There are no open scope exceptions.

4.0AUDITOR CONSISTENCY (OP 1117) - CLOSED

Mike Stolze reviewed the auditor consistency presentation. The Task Group were green for all dashboard metrics.

It was asked if the list of 2016 targeted auditors could be identified by the end of 2015.

ACTION ITEM: Auditor Consistency Team to look into the possibility of identifying the 2016 targeted auditors by the end of 2015. (Due Date: 15-Nov-2015)

If you want to observe an audit then please contact Robert Nixon, , to help identify suitable audits.

5.0RISK MITIGATION (OP 1110)- CLOSED

Open discussion on how risk mitigation is going.

Risk mitigation is a process used to close the NCRs on failed audits. Rather than being reviewed by staff engineers the NCRs are reviewed by a sub-tem of Task Group subscriber voting members. In Chemical Processing the typical mode for failure of an audit is excessive NCRs so there is significant workload associated with reviewing and responding to the NCRs. A large number of the subscribers present have participated in the risk mitigation process.

The risk mitigation cycle time is often significantly longer than the defined guidance in OP 1110. The work required to support it is beyond what people have available. The level of involvement mandated by OP 1110 cannot be achieved by the subscriber representatives and needs to be reduced.

Nadcap Management Council (NMC) are reviewing amendments to OP 1110 which will reduce the subscriber time required to review an audit.

Motion made by Hal Abel and seconded by Susan Lewis to notify the NMC (Planning and Operations Meeting) that we cannot support the process as presently defined due the time/cost required to support it. Motion Passed.

If you have ideas on how to improve the navigation menus and screen content, e.g. have the supplier discussion thread visible in risk mitigation team review, then please let Nigel Cook,, know.

6.0RESOLUTION BY TASK GROUP ISSUES – CLOSED

(Nigel Cook) Audit 167136: Nigel Cook reviewed the findings from audit 167136, RAIL item 145. It was agreed to close the RAIL item.

(Susan Frailey) Observing Conjoined Aerospace Quality Systems (AQS) Audits: The AQS Task Group have asked me to remind audit observers to also sign-up to the AQS audit if they are observing a CP audit that has a conjoined AQS audit. You need to click on the linked AQS audit and complete an observation request, and observation feedback form, for that audit also.

(Nigel Cook) Complaint: A complaint was received from a machining company about the finish of anodized and colored parts received from a Nadcap accredited processor. The parts were initially rejected because the colors did not match that of the samples provided and then came back pitted after re-processing. The letter of complaint and the purchase orders and samples were reviewed.

None of the subscribers present had issues with this processor. It was agreed that there are difficulties in color matching of anodize and reprocessing of parts.

(Nigel Cook) Audit 170513: The auditor raised an observation because equipment used to control or monitor the control of a process did not have a calibration label. The equipment was uniquely identified, calibrated, traceable to its calibration record, and in the recall system. Neither AC7108, AS9100 nor ISO 17025 require calibration labels.

AC7108 para 3.10.1.a states: “Is there evidence of current calibration on all shop equipment used to set, control or monitor the control of a process?”

The Task Group’s understanding is that the operator must be able to determine the calibration status of the equipment by looking at it. The NCR is to be reopened.

(Nigel Cook) Audit 166702: The Supplier has had a fire at their facility which has shut down some of their processes (Types 1, II and III Anodize, Silver, Zinc and Electroless Nickel) but they plan to have them back up and running by the end of the year. Their present accreditation expires on 31-Jan-2016 so the plan is to grant them a 3 month extension and re-schedule the audit to January/February 2016.

Motion made by Jim O’Shea and seconded by Susan Lewis to accept a 3 month extension.Motion Passed.

(Nigel Cook) Appeal 2015-035: Supplier previously appealed against their audit failure but this was denied (2015-033). The Supplier is now appealing so that their audit, 166435, which is now “Risk Mitigation – Suspended”, is taken out of suspension so that they can respond to the NCRs within the risk mitigation process.

Motion made byMike Coleman and seconded by Gene Wallace to take the audit out of suspension so that the Supplier can respond to the NCRs. Motion Passed.

(Nigel Cook) IR888 – Information was provided to the Task Group about a Nadcap accredited Supplier:

Supplier processes parts to AMS QQ-P-416 but the required stress relief of 4hrs at 375°F was not performed prior to plating as required by para 3.2.2. and has never beenperformed. The parts audited are customer hydraulic aircraft parts and 4 different part numbers made from 15-5PH CRES were all found to have not been stress relieved.

Hydrogen embrittlement bake after plating was performed incorrectly. For the parts audited QQ-P-416 required 8 hours at 375°Fbut the Supplier only heat treated for 4 hours.

Baking procedure control was not performed per AMS2750. AMS2759, no records of furnace traces have been retained. Customer requested for the heat treatment furnace traces/records for engineering to make a decision based on the data. As per AMS2759 there is requirement for records of time & temperature to be stored for future reference; however the Supplier admitted they did not keep any records for Customer’s parts.

Produced falsified process records. It was requested while onsite that process records of batches produced were shown. After about 2 hours of waiting a record was shown, however this was found to have been just created, and had been falsified due to the fact that the original record could not located. The next day the original record was found and shown. The Supplier’s special process manager admitted to the occurrence of falsifying records, it seemed they had no issue with creating false records and for Customer it has bought their integrity into question as a Nadcap certified company.

Review of the Supplier’s Nadcap audits indicated that they have only one customer. In their Initial Audit there is a note at 6.1.3.3 that states, “During the audit, the supplier contacted their customer, the customer replied that the part need not stress relief since there is no machining/operation after part were heat treated.”. Review of all the Supplier’s Nadcap audits showed cadmium plated parts were de-embrittled for 24 hours at 375°F.

The body providing the informationto be requested to carry out an impact evaluation and if there is any impact then they need to notify the effected customers.

Motion made by Mike Stolze and seconded by Jeremy Phillips to form a sub-team and treat this issue as an allegation of wrong doing. Motion Passed.

Sub-Team: Mike Stolze (Lead), Nick Magnapera, Michael Vosatka, Yuhui Sun, Nigel Cook.

ACTION ITEM: A sub-team consisting of Mike Stolze, Nick Magnapera, Michael Vosatka, Yuhui Sun and Nigel Cook appointed to review IR888 and report back at the next meeting. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

Risk Mitigation Training – Does anybody want Risk Mitigation training, if so take names and pass them to Mike Graham. (Yuhui Sun, Caroline Le’Clair, Dawn Mastin, Doug Hahn)

7.0VOTING MEMBER APPROVAL & COMPLIANCE WITH VOTING REQUIREMENTS – OPEN

The following requests for voting membership were received:

Title / First Name / Surname / Company / Voting Member Type / Meetings Attended
(Month/Year)
Mr. / Barry / Snitzer / Rolls-Royce Corp / Subscriber Voting Member (UVM) / June 2015 / October 2015
Mr. / Peter / Cox / Central Metal Finishing / Supplier Voting Member (SVM) / October 2014 / October 2015
Mr. / Andrew / Murphy / The Boeing Co / Alternate Subscriber Voting Member (ALT/UVM) / June 2015 / October 2015
Mr. / Matt / Zanolli / Alcoa Howmet Dover Castings, Inc. / Supplier Voting Member (SVM) / October 2014 / October 2015
Mr. / Ron / Cohen / Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) / Subscriber Voting Member (UVM) / June 2015 / October 2015
Mr. / Steve / McDonough / Triumph Group / Alternate Subscriber Voting Member (ALT/UVM) / June 2015 / October 2015
Mr. / Michael / Francisco / Stabile Plating Co., Inc. / Supplier Voting Member (SVM) / October 2014 / October 2015

Motion made by Susan Lewis and seconded by Cindy Roth to approve the above voting members. Motion Passed.

The meeting membership was requested to submit requests to become voting members using m-frm-01 at least 2 weeks prior to the meeting.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to arrange for eAuditNet to be updated for the new voting members. (Due Date: 15-Nov-2015)

Greg Penney has moved from Triumph Group to Black Oxide Industries Inc.

Jonathan Hebben has moved from Ducommun to Circor.

Thecompliance to voting requirements or present voting members was reviewed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to check on the meeting attendance records and voting records for Dave Serbousek and act accordingly. (Due Date: 30-Nov-2015)

Jonathan Hebbenreviewed the presentation on the Supplier Mentoring Program.

8.0Water Purity for AMS2700 – OPEN

Mike Noettlgave a presentation on issues regarding the quality of water used for the various corrosion tests called up in AMS2700. Because of the relationship between dissolved ions and conductivity it would be acceptable to do a conductivity test to demonstrate the low concentration of ions (e.g. sodium, chloride). However the test standards for conductivity testing at low conductivity values are difficult to meet (re ASTM D1125 and ASTM D5391).