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COA Curriculum Committee - Minutes
Meeting: Feb. 15, 2004 A144 2:00 to 3:30 pm
· Call to order
o 2:00pm - Called to order by Chair B. Grill
o Present: S. Robinson; R. Brem; M. Jones; L. Bollentino; P. Simon; A. Roberts; K. Compton; and J. Jackson
· Agenda Review
o Approve minutes from February 1st
o Fee-based Classes
o Articulation Items
o Selected Topics
o Catalog Committee
o Items from previous meeting
· Motion - Approval of minutes – B. Grill (A. Roberts)
o Objection to wording in section 5 of previous minutes.
§ Read: “L. Bollentino noted she would not know if it met CSU requirements until the fall.”
§ Should Read: “L. Bollentino noted CSU GE requirements are not approved until fall 2006.”
o Comment on Speech 20
§ Speech 20 class mentioned in notes is for nursing students
· Minutes should reflect that this class is not primarily for business and work related speech.
· Selected Topics (ST) Courses
o Introduction of handout showing the number of times ST courses have been offered. Notes that ST should be limited to 3 offerings and then either eliminated or made permanent. ST courses are meant to be experimental. This meeting “a first reading” – decision on how to proceed later.
o Some of the courses listed have already been eliminated
o ST courses should be made into three categories:
§ Definitely Don’t want
§ Still Developing - Continue
§ Offered long enough to be permanent
o Meeting on March 1st should include a discussion of a list of current selected topics courses
o Need to create a “Sanitized list.”
§ No longer offered
§ Already made permanent
§ Those continuing in Fall or appearing for first time
o Some ST courses have been offered between 10 and 14 semesters
· Fee-Based Classes
o Discussion of a possible 1-hour/week art class for ASTI program.
§ Potential fee-based art class paid for by grant.
§ No “off-the-shelf” course will work
o Handout - Program of Course Approval Manual
§ According to manual new fee-based classes are subject to “review” by curriculum committee
§ Meaning of “review” unclear
· Larger issue of procedures for approving new fee-based courses
o Converting non-core curriculum classes to fee-based. Also converting selective audience classes such as the Cisco program
o Ed2go - another topic for discussion on fee-based classes
§ Ed2go does not fit into this category
§ Ed2go does not use Alameda’s instructors, we pay a fee to them, and does not count as fee-based
o Moving non-core curriculum classes to fee-based would clarify what “core” classes are, and raise needed revenue for equipment etc.
§ New federal budget will cut funding and fee-based course could help replace that revenue
· Back to proposed fee-based art class
o Offering the proposed art class as fee-based class may be a problem because credit will not be given.
o Fee-based would not offer students credit for class, but is not a “long-term solution.”
§ Alameda offers a similar PE class, but could use an “off-the-shelf” class for that purpose
§ Art 20 – Will not work because it is more hours than needed
o A .5 unit art classes possibly be used for this purpose. Students would get credit for class.
o Proposed money could be used for other purposes.
o Money for proposed class could come from Gates Grant
o Giving students credit could cause concurrent enrollment problems
o Can offer credit for some courses without concurrent enrollment issues
§ ADA will not fund for time the student is in COA classes
§ “Very precise language” about what classes can be offered this way
· PE will definitely not work for this purpose
o Need clarification on possible concurrent enrollment problems with proposed course
o Parents may object to students not getting credit
o Not so much concerned about this particular class, but larger issue of how these classes should be approved
· Ed2go is raised again
o Ed2go does not fall in the same category
§ Contract with an institution
§ They hire, pay, and monitor faculty
o Issue raised about the way Ed2go is listed in catalog. Appears as fee-based
o These types of classes used to come to committee for approval
o Would like to have clarification of this issue
§ Ed2go does not use COA faculty. Should it need committee approval?
o There have been previous attempts to increase contract education at COA
o Program of Course Approval Manual does not mention “curriculum committee” for review of fee-based courses. Clarification on fee-based procedures is needed.
· We will not pursue fee-based art class at this time
· Articulation
o GE Requirement courses need approval
§ Need to update additions and deletions to GE Requirements for AA 2005-2006
§ Courses are part of IGETC
o Catalog needs to be in print to be in compliance
· Catalog Committee
o No standing catalog committee
o Curriculum committee is catalog committee
§ New members can be added for this purpose
o Need to get started on correction
§ Course changes
§ Typographical errors
o Old catalog file on Dominique’s computer
o Timeline
§ CIPD wants catalog done by June
§ Need to decide when to meet to talk about catalog issues
o Need to go back several years to find errors in catalog
o Will an electronic (non-printed) catalog count as published?
o Can self-publish a few copies of catalog.
o Changing title of liberal arts degree for new catalog
§ Liberal arts degree with “emphasis” in particular major
§ Need time to go to departments to talk about possible changes
§ Units for fulfilling requirements need to be discussed
o How will CIPD approved changes will be incorporated into new catalog?
§ CIPD revisions come out in June of each year, need time to make revisions
o Catalog rights of students
§ Students fall under catalog current at the time they enroll
o Should consider dropping critical thinking requirement for education degree for new catalog.
§ Causes students to go and graduate elsewhere
§ Critical thinking is embedded in other requirements
· Back to issue of additions and deletions to GE Requirements for AA 2005-2006
o COA did not update list of accepted courses for GE
§ Concerned about students who have taken those unlisted courses who deserve GE credit
o Unlisted classes will count
§ It is usually done on a case-by-case basis
o Should not be case-by-case, but rather the list should be updated to reflect current list of courses
o Committee is to look over list and determine whether it is complete.
· Motion –Committee approval to bring the provided list of courses to the district to update courses that fulfill GE requirements – J. Jackson (No Abstentions)
· Memo from Anita Black
o Chancellor’s office looking at making changes in vocational training programs.
· Clarifications
o The record should reflect: “Speech 20 has been approved to be included in the IGETC pattern.”
· Move to adjourn - A. Robert
Submitted by S. Hall