CHATLOG 2006-11-28 Play a NT Contract (4)
CHATLOG 2006-11-28 Play a NT contract (4)
Chat log of Bridge Base Online session for xx1943 starting at: Tue Nov 28 07:50:46 2006
bilmanager (Lobby): => Club: !H!H!H!H!H!H!H!H!H!H
Good morning everybody.
xx1943 (al) just opened a teaching table in the BIL.
"How to play a bridge hand"
He prepared 8 nice hands for you to play.
!H!H!H!H!H!H!H!H!H!H
cashbox: hi
janeherehi: Hi Al nice to see you back! hope you are all better
->janeherehi: ty I'm ok in the moment
xx1943: hi all
kino: hi AL
xx1943: here we go
nestler: hi
xx1943: I've prepared 8 hands concerning to win your NT-contract
xx1943: kibs should focus declarer only
xx1943: bidding is ok
noworries: glp:)
kino: typ...plse tell me what to play...:))
xx1943: now kibs please kib only North
xx1943: Ann pls tell us what you are thinking
kino: count the winners
xx1943: how many
kino: 2 in !S
kino: 2!H
kino: 1!C 1!D..these are definite tricks
kino: need 3 more
kino: maybe from !C
kino: or !D
xx1943: if the !C finesse fails, you have only 8 tricks
xx1943: idem in !Ds
kino: idem?
xx1943: first q: hold up or not?
noworries: (the same)
kino: no hold up
xx1943: why not?
xx1943: rule of 7 says to hold up once
xx1943: 7-(3+2)-1 = 1
kino: k
xx1943: What do you know from the 5 of !Ss Ann?
tjilpi: why the -1 with your rule of seven here - is this because you havwe two stoppers??
xx1943: question: why the -1 with your rule of seven here - is this because you havwe two stoppers??
xx1943: yesssssssssss
tjilpi: ty
xx1943: I wrote a little note on rule of 7 for you:
xx1943:
hope->Kibitzers: even if she wants cant hold 2 times :) Ace x
kino: ok ty..will look later
tjilpi: ty note looks good
xx1943: now the !D finesse is safe, because EAST had 5 !S and WEST has nothing more !SS
xx1943: clap clap Ann
kino: ty
kino: ty p
xx1943: 2 things to remember:
xx1943: 1) Hold up once to exhaust WEST from !Ss
xx1943: 2) finesse the !C (EAST posssible entry) FIRST
xx1943: #2
xx1943: we need a North player
noworries->Club: wdp
bearnobags: hi all
magiemae: hello
xx1943: I would suggest to stay for 2 hands
janeherehi: Hi partner
magiemae: hi :)
xx1943->Kibitzers: too strong for 1NT too weak for 2NT
xx1943: bravo correct biddding
manawa: but 2NT describes hand and you dont want to rebid really
xx1943->Kibitzers: 2S+1D+2C she needs 4 tricks from !H
xx1943: why not try the Q
xx1943: Maybe the lead is from the K
janeherehi: true
xx1943: if
xx1943: you have Qxx you may play low
janeherehi: there are 5 higher cards out
xx1943: but with Qx you MUST play the Q
janeherehi: than the 6
cashbox: h9,then hq
->cashbox: bravo
xx1943: hold up twice according to rule of 7
manawa: what is the rule od seven again pls
->manawa: 1) "NT shows 20-22 HCP not 19 2)
manawa: ty
xx1943: clap clap Jane
janeherehi: really?
xx1943: the only rite technique to get 4 !H tricks
Miksa: :)
Miksa: no....
janeherehi: misc
Miksa: vwd
xx1943: ok 9 tricks
xx1943: but to show let us see what happens, if you play the Q instead of the 9 of hearts
xx1943: ok Jane
xx1943: play !S to the A
xx1943: If EAST covers, the show is over
xx1943: and no way back to the table for the 3. finesse
tjilpi: uhoh
noworries: could've played the !h10 instead of the !h4
xx1943: but what if you unblock
xx1943: now the 9
noworries: but then e would cover
xx1943: and EAST MUST cover
xx1943: you see after the Q declarer is in a double bind
magiemae: so what is the advantage of unblocking
xx1943: REMEMBER this typical card combination 7 cards missing the K including AQJT9 and only 1 entry to table
xx1943: no adv from unblocking
xx1943: you must lead the 9 in the first finesse
xx1943: more qs?
xx1943: ok #3
Miksa: no, ty
magiemae: poor jane
xx1943: good bid from NOrth
xx1943: don't fool around, bid what you want to play
janeherehi: typ
magiemae: glp
cashbox: no duck, can ca to dummy, do D suit
->cashbox: rite
xx1943: st||md|1SA92HAJ7DA92CKJ32,SK54HKQT65DK65C76,SJ3H43DQJT43CAQ54,SQT876H982D87CT98|nt||sv|e|mb|-|mb|-|mb|-|nt|Another example on the topic: "Hold up or not hold up that is the question!!"|pg||mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|-|mb|-|mb|-|pg||pc|HK|pc|H3|pc|H2|pc|HA|pg||
nt|DON'T hold up, because the crucial finesse goes into the WEST-hand and you have a 2. stopper in @h, if he gets the lead.
But you are afraid of a @s-switch, which is possible after East played the @h 2.|pg||pc|C2|pc|C6|pc|CA|pc|C8|pg||
pc|DT|pc|D7|pc|D2|pc|D5|pg||
pc|D3|pc|D8|pc|D9|pc|DK|pg||
pc|S4|pc|S3|pc|ST|pc|SA|pg||
pc|DA|pc|D6|pc|D4|pc|H8|pg||
pc|CK|pc|C7|pc|C4|pc|C9|pg||
pc|CJ|pc|H5|pc|C5|pc|CT|pg||
pc|C3|pc|H6|pc|CQ|pc|S6|pg||
pc|DQ|pc|S7|pc|S2|pc|S5|pg||
pc|DJ|pc|S8|pc|S9|pc|HT|pg||
pc|H4|pc|H9|pc|H7|pc|HQ|pg||
pc|SK|pc|SJ|pc|SQ|pc|HJ|pg||
mb|1Np3Nppp|
Chat log of Bridge Base Online session for xx1943 starting at: Tue Nov 28 08:30:17 2006
xx1943->Club: rehi
xx1943: server doesn't like me today
hope: :)
Miksa: Me neither
janeherehi: what happened
cashbox: ..
mausie: we were all kicked out I think
Miksa: right
hope: last version:)
cashbox: lol
janeherehi: thought I was expelled for bad play
hope: a free trip into cyberspace:)
Miksa: :))
ellen22: lol
magiemae: me too.. hehe
cashbox: lol
xx1943: note the 2 from EAST
xx1943: West knows you've got AJ and pare applying the Bath-Coup, if you hold up
xx1943: you must be afraid for a !S-switch
xx1943: and taking the A is sure, because the !D-finesse goes to WEST
xx1943: and WEST can do you no harm
ntbidder: why didn't West lead 4th from Best ?
xx1943: must take the A. !H return would be dangerous
xx1943: and now we have 6 more tricks in the minors
xx1943: 2 more volunteers for #4
janeherehi: thats really deep Al
xx1943: hi Nada and Mihailo
janeherehi: but very good lesson
Miksa: Hello everyone
hope: hello Al and Mihajlo
hope: I might disappear big storm here
xx1943: 2!C is NMF or CBS I hope
hope: Unassuming Cue bid
ellen22: CBS?
xx1943: 3!C is ok
Miksa: ok, ty
tjilpi: nmf or cbs?
->ellen22: CBS = Check-Back-Stayman
ellen22: hmm
Miksa: I tought 2NT is better
xx1943: bid 3NT you know, he has noe 3 !ss and he has !H stop
Miksa: tyP
Miksa: ok: 1 in S, 2 in H, 1 in C
hope: I can not I can tell him I have 5 !S and he can bit what he wants :)
tjilpi: what is NMF / CBS?
hope: bid
Miksa: minors are the source of tricks
Miksa: West's overcall is the hint
Miksa: East, sorry
xx1943: correct
xx1943: the lead too
Miksa: right, East has J and T
xx1943:
hope: Al should have J and T
xx1943: I you need any explanation try BridgeGuys first
xx1943:
hope: :) bunch of homos:)
ellen22: danke!! ;-))
tjilpi: ty
->hope: tz tz tz tz
Miksa: I am afraid of !s switch, so I'll cover it.
xx1943: rule of 7 says: hold up once. You can do it now or later
Miksa: right
Miksa: now the only hope is for West to has A!d
Miksa: oh :(
xx1943: and -1
Miksa: sp
hope: GT M
Miksa: so... holdup?
xx1943: which of the minors you must establish first? and why?
tjilpi: need to lead the diamond before taking second heart
Miksa: !d, as !c is safe after !h are gone
xx1943: sure
xx1943: you got it Mihailo
Miksa: too late :)
xx1943: that is why I showed you this hand
xx1943: you wasted a trick in !DS by playing the 10 instead of a small one
Miksa: y, I see now
Miksa: sorry all
xx1943: now 1S+2H+3D+3C
xx1943: and the !C finesse is safe
xx1943: sry
Miksa: would you like to play the hand, Nada?
Miksa: and get some practice?
hope: no thank you
xx1943: you are rite the hand is better played from the South hand Mihailo lol
hope: NT is my "favorite"game:(
Miksa: 1 in !s, 1 in !h, 2 in !c and 2 in !d makes 6
Miksa: :)
xx1943: correct you need 3 more
Miksa: 2 more from !h
xx1943: sure you try the !S finesse
hope: !D
hope: if y nice 3 3:)
Miksa: and !s finesse
xx1943: !D are 2 more tricks at most
xx1943: not enough
Miksa: should play fo 4 tricks in !h
hope: 3!H
xx1943: and the !Ds are blocked
xx1943: rite you need 3 tricks from !H
xx1943: the K MUST be onside
xx1943: and no problem if then !Hs are 33
xx1943: ok
Miksa: right, if K is at East, no hope
xx1943: correct
Miksa: right. so carefil with small cards :)
hope: what do y mean NO hope - I am HERE:)
xx1943: lol
cashbox: lol
xx1943: Nada that is why I love you sooooooooooooooooooooooooo
hope: !H:)!H:)!H:)
hope: now go to hand and play small !H
xx1943: rite handle the !Hs is the problem in this hand
hope: to ten
->hope: then you'll never get 4 tricks in !H
Miksa: If I play J and East covers, I'll have small 2 in hand
xx1943: correct
hope: play J!H
->hope: nope, loses if WEST has Kx
xx1943: clap clap Mihailo
xx1943: grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Miksa: :))
KeldKn: undo
hope: I though I play??
Miksa: I was typing "and then I have to repeat that as K can cover again..."
Miksa: sorry, I am not good in loud thinking
xx1943: ok ty Maihailo
cashbox: i play HKX doubleton inside.and keep CK for DQJ doubleton may get a overtrick.
Miksa: ty
hope->Club: finesse the lowest honor ten
xx1943: this is the typical move holding 7 cards missing K98765
kyno40: Hi Al
xx1943: compare with #2 where you got the 9 and things were very different
->kyno40: hi Klaus
xx1943: I need a N player too
hope: Thankl you Al thank you Mihajlo
xx1943: come on
Miksa: ty Nada, there is a Hope for me, I am sure :)
cherrie: hello
manawa: hi
xx1943: hello John and Private
cherrie: ty
xx1943->Kibitzers: I saw partners low !D and knew he has 3, so I can take the 2.
bwd1: trick 1 must take A?
xx1943: and 2 more tricks to EAST
->bwd1: sure
cherrie: i did not think here
xx1943: the mistake ocuured as so often in the 1. trick
xx1943: count:
xx1943: 1S+2H+4D(if you have an entry) and 2C=9
xx1943: if opps hold up the !Ds, you need urgently an entry to table
xx1943: but how to find without stealing
xx1943: sure
xx1943: now you can go to table with !H
cashbox: SQ
xx1943: bad luck the !S spots were against you and WEst defended very well
xx1943: !SQ had not helped I guess
xx1943: here you went down, but did your best
xx1943: #7
KeldKn: hold up the ace of !S twice
xx1943: rite
xx1943: you can hold up !S twice and lose 2S 1H and 1D
xx1943: sry I was unconcentrated
xx1943: ty Keld
cherrie: do you wish me to go to 3nt, i would generally pass here
xx1943: AKQxx is 3NT opposite 1NT
hope: !H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:) muss davon laufeb DANKE !H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)!H:)
xx1943: 3NT, what else?
->hope: bye
xx1943: lowest from touching cards lol
manawa: makes 2NT....i believe 2NT best
->manawa: makes always 3
xx1943: lazyness to play the 3
xx1943: sry
xx1943: this hand is my mistake
xx1943: forget it
xx1943: somewaht got wrong
xx1943: should be an example of unblocking a suit
xx1943: I got it wrong
KeldKn: take 3 !S and fineese in !H
manawa: too balanced and honours offside
xx1943: last one
xx1943: #7 I have to correct
Miksa: np, we can download the hand later from your website
xx1943->Kibitzers: 2!C is NOT NMF
xx1943: 2!C is NOT NMF in this situation
xx1943: NMF is only from responder after openers 1NT or 2NT rebid
xx1943: but you should open 2NT with 22 HCP
cherrie: typ
manawa: didnt like lack of honours in spades
manawa: could see myself being a dogs breakfast
xx1943: 20-22 HCP 4333 4432 or 5332 ALWAYS opens 2NT
mausie: how about 2!C open with 22+ and rebid 2NT... many play 2NT open as 20-22
mausie: sorry 2NT 20-21
xx1943: no 20-22
xx1943: 23+ is 2!C
xx1943: 2S+3H+2D+1C=8
xx1943: you need 1 more trick
manawa->Kibitzers: 2!s+31H+2!D+1!C
xx1943: rite
xx1943: sources are !Ss if 33
xx1943: !Ds if 33
xx1943: or !C
manawa->Kibitzers: hope for 3-3 spades
xx1943->Kibitzers: partner leads the Q from QJ9, so I throw my 10
manawa->Kibitzers: unlikely !D's as lead
xx1943->Kibitzers: Now he has another chance: ENDPLAY EAST
Miksa->Kibitzers: yes!
Miksa->Kibitzers: :( missed
xx1943: and -1
manawa->Kibitzers: saddly
kino: ty Al..must go..dinner time
xx1943: in this situation you know: EAST has the last !D and WEST has the last !S
nzakosek: the s list
xx1943: if you play 3 rounds of !Hs, you can endplay EAST in !DS
manawa->Kibitzers: ok yes very good
xx1943: but you missed earlier
xx1943: you can establish a !C trick for sure
xx1943: take and play !C A and Q
xx1943: no you must take it
xx1943: else they can attack your entries to table
xx1943: now you have 2 entries to tabel to establish and win another !C-trick
xx1943: and you have 9 tricks
manawa->Kibitzers: yes well done...i missed that
xx1943: I corrected #7
xx1943: qs to #8?
Miksa: no, ty
manawa: ty
xx1943: play the lowest from original 4
cashbox: blocked
->cashbox: lol
bwd1->Kibitzers: too late
cashbox: lol
->cashbox: you know very much of this game, would like to play with you some time
cashbox: thank you so much
xx1943: and now the !DS are blocked
cashbox: i am so happy to hear
cherrie: i thought you meant play the lowest of mine
xx1943: this was the mistake
xx1943: your 3 is soooooooooooooooo precious just in case !Ds are 3/1
xx1943: you have no chance against 4/0
cherrie: ah
xx1943: unblock the 9
xx1943: or the 6
xx1943: clap clap you got it
cherrie: lol
xx1943: ok
cherrie: tyvm
xx1943: that was our todays session
Miksa: ty Al, another great lesson
xx1943: you'll find the hands soon at my site
mcpomlady: tks AL
bwd1: Thank you Al :))
ellen22: thankyou, Al!!H
cashbox: thanks
cherrie: good night and thanks
manawa: ty
ntbidder: thanks
xx1943:
janeherehi: very good as usual
kyno40: ty Al always interesting great lesson
Miksa: can you just claim the last one?
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xx1943: bye all