Okay. You Will Have 3 Minutes. State Your Name

GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THIS IS NOVEMBER 20, 2014. THIS IS THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. THE VOLUSIA COUNTY WELCOMES YOUR INVOLVEMENT AND PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR COMMENTS. YOU MAY SPEAK FOR 3 MINUTES DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE COUNCIL DOES NOT ADDRESS QUESTIONS. ONCE AGAIN, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR, MY FIRST PERSON UP THIS MORNING IS THOMAS ABRAHAM. WHERE ARE YOU? GOOD MORNING.

MR. ABRAHAM, THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT WILL BE ADDRESSED ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL. DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK NOW OR DURING THAT TIME?

I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK NOW.

OKAY. YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME.

19308 FLORIDA. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL. FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU THOSE COUNTY COUNCILMEMBERS WHO HAVE RETURNED TO THE COUNCIL. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AGAIN AND TODAY I AM GOING TO READ A STATEMENT FROM MY BOOK, A FAMOUS WRITER AND EXPERT IN -- IT'S ALL ABOUT TRUTH. TRUTH VERY SIMPLY STATED BOILS DOWN TO TWO TEST. STATEMENTS MADE MUST CORRESPOND TO REALITY. THE SYSTEM OF THOUGHT THAT IS DEVELOPED AS A RESULT MUST BE COHERENT. THE CORRESPONDENCE AND COHERENCE ARE MATTERS THAT AFFECT US. WHETHER IT'S POLITICS, GOVERNMENT MATTERS OR WHATEVER. THESE ARE MATTERS THAT AFFECT US. CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY. THEY ELECT YOU TO THIS COUNTY COUNCIL. THEY ARE THE BOSS WHO SHOULD BE LISTENED TO. RECENTLY I HAD, I READ SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS FRACTURES. IF YOU ARE I DEALING TO THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION AND IF YOU ARE COHERENT, THEN SOMETIMES IT IS NATURAL THAT YOU WILL BE FRACTURES BECAUSE YOU ARE REPRESENTING YOUR CITIZENS. LOOK AT THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. VERY OFTEN WE SEE -- THEY WANT TO SEE THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER. MY COMING THIS MORNING I AM SORRY THAT I AM MISSING A LOT OF COUNTY COUNCILMEMBERS HERE WHO PROBABLY TAKE IT FOR GRANTED NO CITIZENS WILL BE HERE AT 8:30. SOME OF US ARE HERE 15 OR 20 MINUTES EARLY BECAUSE THE REST OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THEIR FRACTURED SITUATION. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR. MICHAEL PASTORI. WHILE MR. PASTORI IS COMING UP. IF YOU HAVE A CELLPHONE IF YOU CAN TURN THAT DOWN TO MUTE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL PASTORI, I LIVE ON -- I'M ALSO REFERRED TO AS PASTOR MIKE. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. I HAVE A PASSION TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE VOLUSIA PROJECT. I'M 60 YEARS OLD. I FIRST CAME TO VOLUSIA COUNTY IN 1976 AND SAW THE LAND FROM A CANOPY ON FLAT LINE BOULEVARD AND I SAID I AM COMING BACK. IT IS A GREAT PLACE. I RAISED A FAMILY. MADE A PAYROLL FOR 10 YEARS. I HAD A NUMBER OF COMPUTER STORES AND HAD A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK IN 2007 AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD I GOT THROUGH THAT AND NOW MY MISSION IS TO HELP THOSE LESS FORTUNATE THAN MYSELF. THE REASON I WANT TO TALK TO YOU THIS MORNING IS THAT I HAVE BEEN LOBBYING FOR THE LAST YEAR. THE LAST YEAR I HAVE LIVED ON THE STREETS AS A HOMELESS PERSON TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROBLEM AND I GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE. MY BIBLE SAYS IF YOU BECOME WEAK, YOU CAN BECOME THE WEAK AND SAVE SOME OF THEM. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN CALLED TO DO. I WOULD RATHER NOT GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND I WOULD TRY TO GO WITH MY FAITH PARTNERS AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN BUT UNFORTUNATELY I'M WORKING WITH MY COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO GET LAND AND BUILD THINGS AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. I'M UPSET BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE THAT IS GETTING SHORT. I BELIEVE THERE IS A HIGHER STUDIER TO STUDY MAYBE PERCEIVED AS DELAY INTACT PARTICULAR. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE, BUT SOMEONE ONCE SAID IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND SWIMS AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK IT'S A DUCK. SO PLEASE, LOOK AT WHAT'S ON THE TABLE, LET'S BRING IT TO A VOTE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THE PEOPLE THAT I MINISTER TO THE STREETS HANDING OUT BLANKETS AND I HAVE 10 GALLONS OF HOT CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP. I WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND IT'S 44 DEGREES. WE DON'T HAVE A SHELTER UNTIL THE TEMPERATURE DROPS BELOW 40. I SUBMIT TO YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT 44 DEGREES WITH 45 MILES AN HOUR WIND IS PRETTY UNCOMFORTABLE IF YOU ARE LAYING ON CONCRETE. LET'S GET TO THESE DIFFERENCE AND COME UNITED AND BRING THIS TO A VOTE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A NEW PERSON HERE, MR. MORTON CULLIG AN. GOOD MORNING.

FOR THE RECORD SIR. , YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

IT'S THE SAME AS ALWAYS.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE FACT THAT OUR PRESIDENT AND SENATOR BILL NELSON ALL CONDEMN THE BE HEADING AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT SAVAGES. THEY DON'T DO STUFF LIKE THAT. THEY USE MISSILES TO BLOW THEIR HEADS OFF. THEY USE B 2 BOMBERS AND ON AND ON. THE UNITED STATES MILITARY UNDER ORDERS HAS SLAUGHTERED MANY PEOPLE, SOME IS MAY HAVE DESERVED IT, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF INDEPENDENT PEOPLE. WE ARE A VIOLENT NATION. WE OCCUPY SO MANY NATIONS, WE START WARS BECAUSE WE CAN. IT'S NOT THE FAULT UNDER THE AMERICAN MILITARY, THEY ARE UNDER ORDERS. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, LOOK AT OPERATION PHOENIX AND OPERATION EXPRESS. SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WE SLAUGHTERED. WE DIDN'T CUT THEIR HEADS OFF, WE BLEW THEM OFF. SIX AMERICANS WERE SLAUGHTERED BY OTHER AMERICANS IN DEALT IN A -- SEVEN WERE KILLED IN FLORIDA THE OTHER DAY. SEVEN OF THEM. YOU CAN GO OVER AND OVER AND YOU COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT LARGEST CLEAR AND MOST PRESENT DANGER TO AMERICANS IS OTHER AMERICANS. IT'S NOT ISIS. IT'S NOT AL QAEDA. IN THE IRAQ WAR ALONE , WE LOST 4498 89. WE ARE LOSINGCH . WE HAVE LOST FROM DAY ONE IN AFGHANISTAN, IN IRAQ AND VIETNAM. WE LEFT A BLOODY TRAIL. WHEN WE LEAVE THOSE PEOPLE WILL STILL BE THERE AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THE UNITED STATES IS STONE COLD BROKE AND BORROWING MONEY TO BLOW PEOPLE'S HEADS OFF, NOT CUTTING THEM OFF. I -- CONDEMN ISIS AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. CULLIGAN. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME?

I HAVE NO SLIPS.

OKAY, I NOTICED A GROUP THAT CAME IN. DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR ANY MATTER? OKAY, WITH THAT, WE'LL GO INTO RECESS AT 9:00 UNTIL OUR REGULAR COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING. WE STAND IN RECESS. [ GAVEL ]

GOOD MORNING. IF THE CHAMBER CAN PLEASE COME TO ORDER. GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. TODAY'S DATE IS NOVEMBER 20, 2014. MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. CITY CLERK: MR. WAGNER, MS. CUSACK, MR. DANIELS, MS. DENNY'S, MS. NORTHEY, MS. PATTERSON. WE HAVE A QUORUM.

ALL RIGHT. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY PASTOR PRICE OF THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH. GOOD MORNING, MR. PRICE. IF THE COUNCIL WILL PLEASE RISE.

LET'S PRAY.

HEAVENLY FATHER, YOU TELL US IN YOUR HOLY WORD TO PRAY FOR THE LEADERS OF OUR LAND AND WE PRAY ESPECIALLY FOR THESE LEADERS IN VOLUSIA COUNTY AND WE KNOW THAT THESE LEADERS HAVE A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY AND WE ASK YOU TO PRAY FOR THESE PEOPLE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL THAT MEANS A LOT AND IMPACTS A LOT OF LIVES. FATHER, HELP THEM TO LEAVE IN INTEGRITY AND HONESTY LORD. WE LIFT THEM UP TO YOU BECAUSE WE KNOW LEADERSHIP IS TRYING AND WE KNOW LEADERSHIP CAN TAKE A TOLL ON A BODY PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY AND EMOTIONALLY. WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH THEM IN THESE AREAS, BE WITH THEM IN THEIR PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LIVES AND THEIR FAMILY LIVES. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. WE THANK YOU THAT THEY WILL WILLING TO GIVE OF THEIR TIME AND TALENT AND TO LEAD IN THIS TOWN. WE THANK YOU THAT WE HAVE MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES SO WE CAN LIVE IN FREEDOM. THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE HERE, WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR SERVICE. LORD, YOU ARE GOOD AND YOU HAVE GIVEN US A BEAUTIFUL STATE AND BEAUTIFUL COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR LOVING US. IN CHRIST NAME, I PRAY.

AMEN.

ATTENTION. SALUTE. PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT NOW TO PULLING OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. MR. WAGNER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL? IS THAT A NO, SIR? MS. CUSACK? >> I HAVE NOTHING.

MR. DANIELS? MS. DENYS? MS. NORTHEY? NOTHING.

I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND SECOND FROM MS. DENYS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. WITH ALL THAT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY, "AYE". SO CARRY UNANIMOUS MUSS.

MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT THOSE FROM SPRINGS WERE HERE AN AGENDA ITEM. THEY SET UP TO PASS 113 THINGS AND IT ONLY TOOK THEM 2 YEARS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. REMEMBER, WE HAVE TO BE ON THE RECORD. ITEM NO. 1 IS THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 2, 2014, AND OCTOBER 16, 2014. ARE THERE ANY EDITS, CHANGES OR SUBMISSIONS TO CHANGE THE RECORD? WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM MS. DENYS AND SECOND FROM MS. CUSACK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, "AYE". ALL THOSE OPPOSED? IT'S CARRIED UNANIMOUS. ITEM NO. 2. YOU HAVE A RETIREE TODAY.

YES, GOOD MORNING. WE ARE A RETIREE TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS MORNING. FIREFIGHTER WILLIAM ROGER HARRIS. HE WILL RETIRE AFTER 30 YEARS OF SERVICE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ROGER HARRIS TO COME FORWARD.

YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD TOO, SIR. IS YOUR WIFE, FAMILY HERE? THEY CAN COME UP. PLEASE, FAMILY, YOU ARE FAMILY, COME ON UP.

WOW, STANDING ROOM ONLY. IT'S QUITE A CROWD. IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE SUPPORT OF THE FAMILY.

GOOD MORNING, FIRE CHIEF VOLUSIA COUNTY FIRE SERVICES. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE SERVICE ROGER HAS DONE FOR SERVICE. IT WAS KNOWN AS HALIFAX FIRE DEPARTMENT. PRIOR TO THAT DATE ROGER SERVED AS A VOLUNTEER FOR 6 YEARS DONATING HIS TIME AROUND STATION 13. ROGER TOLD ME HE STARTED HIS VOLUNTEERISM ON A WHIM WHEN HE STARTED AS A SOPHOMORE IN HIGH SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS LOUD TO RESPOND ON AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL CALL AND AT THAT POINT HE HAD THE BUG. HE WANTED TO HELP OUT AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. BECAUSE OF HIS AGE, AN ACCEPTANCE HAD TO BE MADE FOR HIM TO VOLUNTEER. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE A 16-YEAR-OLD, A VERY YOUNG AGE TO START IN FIRE AND MEDICAL ASSISTANCE RESPONSE. WE ARE GLAD THAT HE CHOSE THIS KIND OF WORK AND HE CHOSE TO SERVE VOLUSIA COUNTY. HE WAS IN A FIRE IN VOLUSIA COUNTY IN 1985 AND THROUGH THE WILDFIRES IN 1998 AND HURRICANES IN 2004. HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE HAZMAT TEAM AS A MAZ MATT HAZMAT TECHNICIAN. WHERE VER HE'S GONE HE'S FOLLOWED. HE'S BEEN ABLE TO LEARN ADAPTIVELY AND PUNCTUAL WITH A GOOD ATTITUDE AND REPORTS ALL SAFETY PROBLEMS AND ACCEPTS ALL WILLINGLY. NEEDS NO SUPERVISION ON A SCENE. ACCEPTS AND WORKS WITH WORKERS. THE BOTTOM LINE, HE'S A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT. HAVING SERVED FAITHFULLY FOR 30 YEARS. CONGRATULATIONS.

PLEASE, YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE, SIR. YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME.

ROGER HARRIS FIREFIGHTER VOLUSIA COUNTY FIRE SERVICE. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY FIRE SERVICE FOR 30 YEARS. I STARTED IN 1984. SINCE THEN I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES AND WORKED THE WILDFIRES OF 85 AND 98. THE AMTRAK TRAIN DERAILMENT IN 2012. THE VOLUSIA COUNTY HAS THE BEST FIREFIGHTERS AND IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE RIGHT ALONG THEM.

YOU STARTED AT 16? WOW. THAT'S PRETTY YOUNG. IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROM OUR COUNCILMEMBERS? PLEASE.

MS. CUSACK, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. AS A MEMBER OF THIS FIRE SERVICE, I OFTEN SAY THAT WE RUN AWAY FROM. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS COUNTY AND CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY. I'M PROUD TO HAVE BEEN THE NURSE THAT WORKED WITH MANY FIREFIGHTERS IN THE PAST DURING THOSE FIRES. I REALLY APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY THE NEXT PHASE OF YOUR LIFE TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND COMMITMENT.

MR. WAGNER, DID YOU TURN YOUR BUTTON OFF? OKAY, YOU WILL BE LAST NOW. MS. DENYS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

IT'S INTERESTING, I ALWAYS LISTEN TO THE WORDS SPOKEN ABOUT THOSE WHO WE ARE GOING TO HONOR. IT'S NOT HOW YOU START, IT'S HOW YOU END. WE KNOW HOW YOU STARTED AS A VOLUNTEER, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE CHIEF SAID YOU WERE TRIED AND TRUE. AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AND I'M LOOKING AT THE TEARS, I'M LOOKING AT THOSE BREATHING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, IN TOTAL RESPECT AND LOVE AND HONOR FOR YOU. I BET WHEN YOU STARTED OUT AT 16, I'M THINKING YOU WERE PROBABLY ALONE AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THIS FAMILY AT THE TIME. IT'S NOT HOW YOU STARTED, IT'S HOW YOU FINISHED AND YOU FINISHED STRONG AND THOSE WITH YOU HERE TODAY, IT'S NOT HOW YOU SERVE US IN THE PUBLIC, BUT YOUR FAMILY AS WELL. ENJOY THESE YEARS THAT YOU HAVE EARNED IN SERVING US. IT'S AN HONOR KNOWING YOU. CAN I ASK IF YOUR PARENTS ARE HERE? I'M WONDERING. I'M WATCHING THE TEARS AND THOSE ARE THE TEARS OF A MOTHER. YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL WHERE MOM IS AND DAD IN THESE TYPES OF TRIBUTES. IT'S AN HONOR GREATLY BESTOWED. ENJOY YOUR YEARS.

THANK YOU.

MR. PATTERSON?

I REMEMBER VIVIDLY IN 1985 I WAS TRAINING WITH AN INSURANCE COMPANY IN NEW YORK AND I SAID I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE MUCH GOING TO TRAIN FROM NEW YORK TO VOLUSIA COUNTY. I REMEMBER IN 1997 WHEN PAT NORTHEY AND I, I WAS CHAIR OF THE COUNCIL AND WE TOOK STORM TEAM TRAINING IN MARYLAND, AT THE FIRE SCHOOL UP THERE. IT WAS ALWAYS STORM TEAM TRAINING FOR HER AND NEVER REALIZED WE WOULD COME BACK AND HAVE THE TORNADO AND THE FIRE IN 1998 AND I REMEMBER THE DEDICATION OF THE FIREFIGHTERS FROM HERE AND THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT CAME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO HELP US WITH THAT FIRE AND I KNOW THE COMMITMENT OF A FIREFIGHTER. I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT RETIREMENT. SOME DAY I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. I THINK THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE ME TO BE A FIREFIGHTER. >> I WENT THROUGH FIRE FIGHTING WHEN I WAS IN THE NAVY. I WAS A LEAD GUY AND WE HAD SOME FIRES ON BOARD THE SHIP I WAS ON. I KNOW IT'S NOT FUN WHEN YOUR PANT LEGS ARE ON FIRE. CONGRATULATIONS AND ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.

THANK YOU.

MR. WAGNER, AND YOU ARE NOT LAST.

YEAH, EVERYBODY SAID IT BEST. YOU HAVE DONE OBVIOUSLY SOME PRETTY AMAZING THING. 16 IS PRETTY AMAZING TO START EARLY. DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WITH YOU.

MY DAUGHTER BROOK, MY MOTHER LISA, MY WIFE JOY, AND KELLY AND HER MOTHER JUDE AND MY FATHER IN LAW.